Morris Claiborne says he feels great, ready to "make history" in 2014

[TheMarathonContinues]

I thought Jenkins had too many off the field issues at the time, but I would have rather drafted Jenkins than traded up for Mo. I think there was so many lost opportunities in that draft class that could have went a long way in filling the holes on this team. Garrett has gotten credit for great drafts since he became coach, but one look at this draft erases all the praise that he has been given. That draft really hurt the team IMO. It hurt the team in more ways than can be counted.

Yeah I think its important to remember WHY people felt Claiborne was the safer prospect than Jenkins. Jenkins was a idiot off the field. Janoris was a 1st round talent who had off the field issues. He was never a option for the Cowboys. If you believe the Cowboys they were going Brockers than Wagner.

 

[jnday]

The hate Claiborne gets on this forum is unwarranted. We haven't seen enough of him to know what type of NFL career he will have. HE has some things to work on. He needs to get stronger. He needs a training camp.

It is deserved. He is soft, and putting injuries aside, he couldn't hold on to his starting position. I think that says volumes about what the coaching staff is thinking , but won't say.

 

[jnday]

Yeah I think its important to remember WHY people felt Claiborne was the safer prospect than Jenkins. Jenkins was a idiot off the field. Janoris was a 1st round talent who had off the field issues. He was never a option for the Cowboys. If you believe the Cowboys they were going Brockers than Wagner.

Looking back, Brockers and Wagner would have made much more of an impact and the team would be in better shape today if they was drafted. I wasn't a Brockers fan, but I would have rather the team went that direction than trade up.

 

[OhSnap]

Expectations have been way too high for this guy. He joined the NFL with 2 years of college experience and has had very little training camp. This is a raw player who had the reset button hit last year and started over learning new technique. IMO he is on the same trajectory as Dez who was another raw player that missed his first 2 training camps. Way too early to give up on a guy that run's a 4.4 40.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Looking back, Brockers and Wagner would have made much more of an impact and the team would be in better shape today if they was drafted. I wasn't a Brockers fan, but I would have rather the team went that direction than trade up.

You may be right. I Just know at the time we needed corner help and we felt pretty postie about Carter and Lee being our linebackers. Our corner play was terrible. Not our defensive tackle and linebacker play.

It is deserved. He is soft, and putting injuries aside, he couldn't hold on to his starting position. I think that says volumes about what the coaching staff is thinking , but won't say.

To me it says Scandrick was the superior player. And honestly, Scandrick outplayed Brandon Carr too. Scandrick wasn't handed the job. He TOOK it and was our best secondary player last year. Scandrick's a solid corner this league and always has been.

 

[OhSnap]

It is deserved. He is soft, and putting injuries aside, he couldn't hold on to his starting position. I think that says volumes about what the coaching staff is thinking , but won't say.

I wouldn't call playing through a week 1 separated shoulder soft and I think if the coaching staff was thinking he is gonna bust they woulda taken a CB early this year. He has looked bad when tackling but started 012 coming off wrist surgery and started the year separating his shoulder in 013. Evebody dun n got hurt las year do.

 

[CyberB0b]

Expectations have been way too high for this guy. He joined the NFL with 2 years of college experience and has had very little training camp. This is a raw player who had the reset button hit last year and started over learning new technique. IMO he is on the same trajectory as Dez who was another raw player that missed his first 2 training camps. Way too early to give up on a guy that run's a 4.4 40.

The reports coming out of college were that his fundamentals were sound. Injuries or not, that doesn't seem to be the case at the NFL level. In fact, he was touted as being a better NFL corner than Pat Pete, because his technique was better.

 

[rpntex]

I liked Claiborne coming out the draft, and I don't think he's near as bad as people have made him out to be, but ... He's scaring me with that "making history" comment, I hope it's not for the same reasons as last year. Our defense sure was "making history", just for the wrong reasons.

Couldn't agree more. He was the top-ranked defensive player on almodt every team's board coming out of LSU.

 

[OhSnap]

The reports coming out of college were that his fundamentals were sound. Injuries or not, that doesn't seem to be the case at the NFL level. In fact, he was touted as being a better NFL corner than Pat Pete, because his technique was better.

Everyone loved him right up till the minute he was drafted by the Cowboys. I don't think his speed or athleticism that made him a college success has gone anywhere but instead of gettin comfortable and using what he learned the first year he spent last year learning new stuff. If we had just traded the Panthers a third round pick for him the sky would be the limit but the trade and high expectations makes us wanna pitch dirt on him a little too soon. I do wonder if he's one of the guys that needs to be in the film room more because I haven't read anywhere that he doesn't have the tools.

Who the hell is Pat Pete?

 

[Wheeltax]

This has probably been brought up but I ran across this just a few minutes ago:



I didn't get to watch the draft that year, but after the Claiborne pick is announced the announcers say that he has great ball skills etc but voice "concerns" about the things that have turned out to be real problems for Mo at the pro level. I found it pretty interesting, in hindsight.

 

[BAZ]

You say that Dez wasn't "universally praised," but refuse to provide any evidence to backup your point, whereas I did. Yes, "character" issues were brought up about Dez, just like Claiborne's Wonderlic score was discussed. Regardless, virtually every expert I remembering reading in 2010 lauded the Dez pick. Either way, your "I'm scared of picks that are praised" point is silly and baseless.

It's like dealing with a child, you even editorialised my quote. It's not baseless when you remove important words like "universal". Universal praise does not look like this.

http://thedctimes.com/2010/04/dallas-cowboys-2010-draft-pick-analysis-grades/
http://thedctimes.com/2010/04/dallas-cowboys-2010-draft-pick-analysis-grades/

Negatives: All issues are off-field concerns–will he be motivated to perform in the NFL? How much does he love football?

Pete Prisco, CBS Sports.

Questionable move: I like it, but some will say trading up to get Dez Bryant was questionable. That’s because of character, not talent -

http://www.inquisitr.com/74165/2010-nfl-draft-in-review-dallas-cowboys/

•Round One- B, Bryant is a great talent, but also a big risk

http://www.examiner.com/article/dallas-cowboys-2010-draft-class

Of course Bryant is a character risk, and may have problems dealing with the limelight. Of course other receivers like that have gone to Dallas and have very successful careers. The Jury is still out on this one, but I truly believe there were bigger needs on this roster.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=2281

In the end Bryant is very much a boom or bust pick; if he hits on all cylinders on the field and matures off of it, Bryant could be the steal of the draft. Yet if the former Oklahoma State junior continues with an immature attitude towards the small details there will be a lot of shoulda, woulda, coulda’s spoken whenever his name is mentioned.

Look this is pointless you don't even know what you are arguing, picks like Bobby Carpenter that have the " plug in and play straight away" label make me nervous, why does this bother you so much?

Go back and look at these draft grades, people were saying they liked the Sam Young pick, how did that pan out?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

This has probably been brought up but I ran across this just a few minutes ago:



I didn't get to watch the draft that year, but after the Claiborne pick is announced the announcers say that he has great ball skills etc but voice "concerns" about the things that have turned out to be real problems for Mo at the pro level. I found it pretty interesting, in hindsight.

Sounds like Gruden had a better read on Claiborne than our scouting department. :/

 

[Nova]

Not writing Mo off yet. The guy gets unfairly chastised when it should be the actions of the GM that receive ridicule.

Mo was drafted to play in a specific scheme in which he actually excelled, but because he wasn't all world his 2nd year in a new scheme, with nagging injuries and massive emotional baggage from his Father's passing, some are giving up on him.

 

[Doomsday101]

I still have faith in Claiborne, he has the skill sets to be an oustanding CB in this league. I think anyone willing to give up on him this early is making a mistake.

 

[Doomsday101]

Not writing Mo off yet. The guy gets unfairly chastised when it should be the actions of the GM that receive ridicule.

Mo was drafted to play in a specific scheme in which he actually excelled, but because he wasn't all world his 2nd year in a new scheme, with nagging injuries and massive emotional baggage from his Father's passing, some are giving up on him.

I agree I think some are willing to give up on players way too soon.

 

[jnday]

I agree I think some are willing to give up on players way too soon.

I can't think of a player that came back and had a decent career after stinking up his first two years.

 

[Doomsday101]

I can't think of a player that came back and had a decent career after stinking up his first two years.

I don't think he stunk in his rookie year, last season a lot of injuries slowed him down. All I can say is I have not given up on him and it appears he has put in the work this off season to become stronger. I also felt the last game vs Philly he played a solid game as he was coming back from injury.

 

[Idgit]

I don't think he stunk in his rookie year, last season a lot of injuries slowed him down. All I can say is I have not given up on him and it appears he has put in the work this off season to become stronger. I also felt the last game vs Philly he played a solid game as he was coming back from injury.

He didn't stink as a rookie, and we we better on the back end, too, with him in the lineup last season. Scan drink outplayed Carr, too, last season.

This is a pivotal year for Mo. We obviously need him to step up, and he's capable athletically of doing so. We'll see if he does, soon enough.

 

[Doomsday101]

He didn't stink as a rookie, and we we better on the back end, too, with him in the lineup last season. Scan drink outplayed Carr, too, last season.

This is a pivotal year for Mo. We obviously need him to step up, and he's capable athletically of doing so. We'll see if he does, soon enough.

I agree. Just an all around tough year for Mo both physically and emotionally. This is a big season for him to show that getting him was the right move. One thing I see with Nay sayers they are quick to turn on a young player.

 

[jnday]

I agree. Just an all around tough year for Mo both physically and emotionally. This is a big season for him to show that getting him was the right move. One thing I see with Nay sayers they are quick to turn on a young player.

You are expecting him to get better based on what? If there are some reasons please let us know. It has to be something more than the usual "he is working hard in the offseason" though. What has changed for us to expect something different?