Mort report... Jerry still wants McFadden

[ThreeSportStar80]

Mort was just trying to throw, you know what against the wall and hope it sticks... I believe Jerry has learned is lession, MBIII needs to remain in Dallas and they need to keep those two 1st round picks!

 

[UVAwahoos]

No, I've just lost all respect for Joe Gibbs not decrying the raping and pillaging of his assistant coaches by Snyder. Gibbs went on and on about continuity, now Snyder fires everyone and Gibbs doesn't speak about how wrong and two faced Snyder is for it. Gibbs should be speaking out on principle IMO.

I'm also no longer a Commanders fan as long as Snyder is owner. I will watch the games when I can but I will no longer attend games or buy merchandise, and I certainly won't be as invested in the team.

WCO offense for the Washington Commanders just doesn't wash with me. The guy (Snyder) is playing fantasy football with the team I love and I'm glad I won't ever run into him in person because even sober I would have a tough time not wanting to punch him hard in the nose.

I'd like to print and paste this on my wall so that I can read it each day for happiness. Your sorrow is entertaining and quite wonderful. I know that deep down inside, all skins fans are just as miserable as you. That's also a great, great feeling.

Now that you're opening up, however, I think it's therapeutic to provide some inspirational words for you to live by:

Your franchise is GARBAGE. You will always be in our shadows and Dan Snyder owns your favorite team. Dan Freakin Snyder.

Take care.

 

[marchetta]

Barber + Mckelvin at 22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McFadden

Barber + Mckelvin at 22 + Chris Johnson at 28 ================================== McFadden + Cromartie at 28

 

[Cajuncowboy]

If Jerry did this there would be such a massive revolt it rival the Boston Tea Party.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Darren McFadden doesn't put the Dallas Cowboys over the top in 2008. Our Achillies Heel this past season was the play of our backup Corner and down the stretch, a lack of depth at Wide Receiver.

Furthermore, we don't need two Pro Bowl players at the Running Back position, which is probably the situation you are looking at if we indeed were to go forward with a deal of this magnitude. Marion Barber III, coupled with a solid change-of-pace Running Back, who adds some speed and big play capabilities would be sufficient. To add, the 2008 Draft by all accounts is an extremely deep draft with regards to Running Backs.

I have to disagree with those that opine that this would not be analogous to the Joey Galloway Trade. Personally, I believe both deals would be very similar. Yes, you would be getting a player valued as the #1 overall pick in return, but could you not say the same thing for Joey Galloway when we acquired him? He was in the prime of his career and there was certainly noone in the previous or that year's upcoming draft that was better than him.

 

[PullMyFinger]

If JJ fills our needs in FA, then I have no problem giving the Fin's our 2 #1s I might even throw in our #2, but no way do I give up Barber.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Darren McFadden doesn't put the Dallas Cowboys over the top in 2008. Our Achillies Heel this past season was the play of our backup Corner and down the stretch, a lack of depth at Wide Receiver.

Furthermore, we don't need two Pro Bowl players at the Running Back position, which is probably the situation you are looking at if we indeed were to go forward with a deal of this magnitude. Marion Barber III, coupled with a solid change-of-pace Running Back, who adds some speed and big play capabilities would be sufficient. To add, the 2008 Draft by all accounts is an extremely deep draft with regards to Running Backs.

I have to disagree with those that opine that this would not be analogous to the Joey Galloway Trade. Personally, I believe both deals would be very similar. Yes, you would be getting a player valued as the #1 overall pick in return, but could you not say the same thing for Joey Galloway when we acquired him? He was in the prime of his career and there was certainly noone in the previous or that year's upcoming draft that was better than him.

:bravo:
Its gonna be a good week

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

It could all be speculation by Mort with no tangible evidence.

It could all be a ploy by Bill to use Mort for his gain.

However no matter how much we would like to bash mort, bill or any other people for making this up, there is a situation that makes us all worry about it.

That situation is Jerry Jones.

It is no secret that Jerry Jones covets McFadden. Do people remember in the war room right after the cleveland trade? Everyone is doing high fives, patting each other on the backs or clapping and grinning. Stephen also turns to Jerry and says...that could be McFadden.

Think about that. In the start of the draft and they are already talking about McFadden either the following year or the year after.

Jerry of course has huge ties to Arkansas as well so he, in his mind, knows whether McFadden is worth it or not.

Jerry also said last year that there are times when a team, the cowboys, would trade up for a difference maker if they have the ammo.

Ladies and Gentlemen. Whether you like the trade idea or not. Whether you claim that mort and others are full of BS. If you don't think Jerry has thought of it or is currently thinking about it...you better check yourself.

This is going to be a long period until the draft and as much as I would love to throw out the No Madden pic...I just can't on this one.

I think there is teeth to this and it scares me. I really believe that Jerry does want McFadden and he has a way of getting what he wants even if it is not the best thing for the team.

So...don't dismiss this idea as a possibility just because you don't trust mort or others in the media.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

 

[Bach]

Darren McFadden doesn't put the Dallas Cowboys over the top in 2008.

I have to disagree with those that opine that this would not be analogous to the Joey Galloway Trade. Personally, I believe both deals would be very similar. Yes, you would be getting a player valued as the #1 overall pick in return, but could you not say the same thing for Joey Galloway when we acquired him? He was in the prime of his career and there was certainly noone in the previous or that year's upcoming draft that was better than him.

Joey Galloway wasn't going to put us over the top either, and it's not just hindsight. The year before the trade we had just gone 8-8. The previous year, 10-6. That was preceded by a 6-10 season. Add it up and we were 24-24, a .500 ball team, over the course of the three years prior to giving up two first rounders for Galloway.

We weren't just one player away from going to the Super Bowl, or from even being a SB contender, regardless of what our clueless owner thought at the time.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm. Did the Mort forget that Tuna is no longer in Dallas and doesn't have insight to the workings inside the Ranch? Maybe Coach Joe is back and flapping his gums for a cold one?!

 

[BlueStar II]

While McFadden has the "potential" to be an impact player, and Jones would like to have him to help fill up the seats in the new stadium, the price for McFadden would be too steep, IMO. Pick Felix Jones and have him team up with Barber. While Felix Jones may not have received the same amount of hype as McFadden, but if you have Felix Jones and Barber, I think our running game will better off than if we traded Barber just to have McFadden. I'm not saying that McFadden won't have an impact on whatever team he goes to, but the asking price for us to move up to get him is far too steep!

 

[Sandyf]

IMO, the only way that we acquire the 1st overall pick is if Jerry tenders Barber with the 1st and 3rd round picks which he will and Parcells wants Barber so bad that he signs him to a contract which would give us Miami's 1st and 3rd round picks.

In that case we not only get McFadden but still have the 22nd and 28th picks plus what would be 64th pick in the draft. That would be six picks on the first day.

As much as I would like to keep Barber, I would live with Miami signing him and getting those 2 picks. Allows for plenty of flexibility and many think McFadden will actually be better than Peterson which remains to be seen.

Say a 1st round of McFadden, Talib/McKelvin/Cason, and Malcolm Kelly would be sweet. Heck I would even think of Stewart or Mendenhall if available at 28 and have a backfield of McFadden and one of them.

Chances that it would ever happen with Miami is slim and none, and slim has already left home.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Dreadful.

Comedy is not for you.

I'd extend that to posting of any kind.

 

[slick325]

IMO, the only way that we acquire the 1st overall pick is if Jerry tenders Barber with the 1st and 3rd round picks which he will and Parcells wants Barber so bad that he signs him to a contract which would give us Miami's 1st and 3rd round picks.

In that case we not only get McFadden but still have the 22nd and 28th picks plus what would be 64th pick in the draft. That would be six picks on the first day.

As much as I would like to keep Barber, I would live with Miami signing him and getting those 2 picks. Allows for plenty of flexibility and many think McFadden will actually be better than Peterson which remains to be seen.

Say a 1st round of McFadden, Talib/McKelvin/Cason, and Malcolm Kelly would be sweet. Heck I would even think of Stewart or Mendenhall if available at 28 and have a backfield of McFadden and one of them.

Chances that it would ever happen with Miami is slim and none, and slim has already left home.

I believe that you have the premise of what Alexander was trying to explain and I attempted to further explain. If MBIII is tendered a 1st and 3rd and Parcells really wants him, Dallas can offer him and the #22 for the #1 pick. Miami would essentially be getting two 1st's and a third in the trade. Plausible but I'm not sure it's likely.

But with Jerry, one never knows.

 

[dmq]

I would rather trade up to get the Raiders pick if McFadden was still on the board. No way do I want to help Parcells rebuild his team.

 

[Dodger12]

Joey Galloway wasn't going to put us over the top either, and it's not just hindsight. The year before the trade we had just gone 8-8. The previous year, 10-6. That was preceded by a 6-10 season. Add it up and we were 24-24, a .500 ball team, over the course of the three years prior to giving up two first rounders for Galloway.

We weren't just one player away from going to the Super Bowl, or from even being a SB contender, regardless of what our clueless owner thought at the time.

Bach, not to disagree, but many thought that we were a playmaker away from being serious contenders, especially after Irvin retired. At the time, we didn't really know the depths of where our poor drafting would take us. We thought that Aikman still had a few years left and throwing to Galloway and the Rocket would/should put up some serious numbers. Jerry took one last shot with a HOF QB and I couldn't blame him for that. Also, we had other scapegoats at the time: Barry Switzer and Chan Gailey. The players never bought into his system and everyone thought that going back to the old days would briung instant success.

But, knowing what we know now, you'd think Jerry would steer clear of trading our first round picks and minimizing the draft. Pick the best player on the board and let them compete for a job; keep churning the roster. As Br stated earlier, I am very afraid................

 

[zeromaster]

As deep as this draft seems to be, there's not enough reason to sell out to get DMac. I'd be just as happy with Felix Jones or a similar RB that's not going to go quite as high.

If this happens and the team regresses, the anti-Jones people will have all the ammunition they need. Problem is: it won't change anything.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Meh...I honestly have zero desire to see Barber traded. I don't really like that idea at all. I'm sure there are plenty of people that would give Barber up for the #1 pick in the draft, but I'd just rather not. I like Barber too much.

 

[conner01]

I would rather have felix jones to go with barber and then take mckelvin. but if dmac can be had for one 1st and mb3 i think jerry will do that

 

[silver]

i take it they said no to bobby carpenter. bastids, they draft him and now we're stuck with him.