Move LA to LT?
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CrazyCowboy
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Not enough time left to implement.....better leave as us for this year
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Not only did he do it, but I believe he made the pro bowl as a tackle. He started as a Right Tackle. I remember when he came in and got pushed around by Reggie White. He would own at Tackle. I would have done this during the campo years. Dont know why they didnt. Good Left Tackles are hard to come by.
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isn't he WAY TOO SLOW for that?
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mally said:
He got pushed around by White on one single play. The rest of the time in that Thanksgiving game, he owned White. That is why Garrett was able to sit back and throw down field to Irvin and Harper.
Allen is no longer quick enough to play either tackle position. Campo did try to move him to right tackle, but he had several injuries those years that made it impossible to do. I do think he would be better than Tucker, but not much better and whomever came in at guard would be worse. Overall it would actually weaken the line. At this point, there are no options since there are no other tackles on the team.
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JBond said:
NO! Move Larry Allen to the Oakland Raiders. The guy can barely walk. It almost looks painful when he walks.
How in the heck is he going to handle speed rushers like Peppers and Little for the rest of this year at LT? He'll be made the laughing stock if he gets put on the corner. This isn't 1996.
Larry needs to pack his bags for the west coast in the offseason IMHO.
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The guys who don't think Larry Allen could play LT are completely insane.
If you think Phillip Daniels would have even smelled Bledsoe last Saturday against Allen, you are even more insane.
Tucker is pathetic. Period.
I don't want to hear that LA is too slow. Please. He is supremely talented. That is all you need.
If you think Phillip Daniels would have even smelled Bledsoe last Saturday against Allen, you are even more insane.
Tucker is pathetic. Period.
I don't want to hear that LA is too slow. Please. He is supremely talented. That is all you need.
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Eddie said:
Doesn't Peppers play some WR on goal line situations?
Pats used Ashworth(Tackle) as a FB and he caught a TD pass.
49ers sometimes use Peterson back at saftey.
Flozell lined up as a D-Linemen (for FG attempts but shhh...)
And some DT's line up on goal line offensive line positions.
It could happen!
Just kidding
LA would get beat by a speed rusher in my opinion. Do we know any speed rushers on the Panthers? (hint...the answer is yes)
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Ken said:
Where does that leave you at guard? The interior of the line isn't getting pushes on runs and is getting pushed back on pass plays. Moving Allen out of there makes the interior even weaker.
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Ken said:
Are you joking? Or just homering out?
Allen is a good player. At guard. He does not have the lateral movement skills to play tackle anymore and never really had them at a high level for very long. He gets killed by fast tackles and cannot control them. Put him against a fast DE like Umenyiora and he makes Tucker look skilled in comparison.
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joseephuss said:
I like Allen at LT and Gurode at LG a heckuva lot more that Tucket at LT with LA at LG.
Gurode can play well in the run game, has experience, and would not get pushed around.
If teams were going to blitz the middle, I would rather that than hitting Bledsoe from the blind side. RBs are taught to look middle out in pass protections anyway.
I would rather have to help one side (petitti) than both. LA is still a quality player, he wouldn't pitch shutouts, but he wouldn't give up a sack to a guy like Daniels either. He certainly wouldn't have gave up 4.
If we would have made this move during our by, like i suggested at the time, we would be a world better right now and not have the offensive woes that we have.
Another advantage would be having LA earn some of that money that he is making.
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Easy to say that he gets killed. I haven't seen anyone but Sapp have a good day against LA all year. Sapp is hardly "fast" anymore.Alexander said:
Allen still is a good player. Not what he once was but hardly this sloth that you are trying to make him out to be. Maybe the last couple of years, but this year he is in good shape and playing hard.
His pride wouldn't allow him to be bad at LT.
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ddh33 said:
watch some replays from the washington game, there were times when 4 lineman were getting pushed back into DB, and he was 5 yards in front of them manhandling his guy...
he will be LG next year, no reason to put him at LT this year
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Ken said:
Easily.
Allen simply lacks the lateral movement and flexibility to be a tackle.
You can wax poetically about his "pride", but his pride won't help him against a fast defensive end. He would struggle. End of story.
Second of all, you are just going to switch him to tackle, right now, at this point in the season?
If that is what you are implying, this is exactly what Coach Parcells means when he states that laymen like ourselves have no clue.