Murray is gone because the top RB prospect is available

[endersdragon]

It isn't just Gurley, but Gordan could also be there when we pick in the first, and Coleman and Johnson could easily be there when we pick in the 2nd. That is 4 running backs that are certainly possible to be high value targets when we pick in the first two rounds. That makes Murray a lot more expendable.

 

[LittleD]

if he is a can't miss back then why would he not go to a team early in the draft. after all there are so few can't miss players in the draft. lol
Jacksonville will pay for Murray but pass on a can't miss who according to some here is way better than Murray? That makes no sense. lol

You always make some cogent points and could be exactly right.
Things you have to take into consideration is how many good FA RB's will be available at start of FA and what
is the ideal draft slot for a highly rated RB who is coming off of surgery. Murray may be 1 of 2 top RB's
who has a track record in the NFL but there are some good RB's in the draft that will be cheap for 4 years.

Such a conundrum we have. Who knows what Jacksonville or Washington might do...Include the Raiders
in that discussions too.

 

[Doomsday101]

You always make some cogent points and could be exactly right.
Things you have to take into consideration is how many good FA RB's will be available at start of FA and what
is the ideal draft slot for a highly rated RB who is coming off of surgery. Murray may be 1 of 2 top RB's
who has a track record in the NFL but there are some good RB's in the draft that will be cheap for 4 years.

Such a conundrum we have. Who knows what Jacksonville or Washington might do...Include the Raiders
in that discussions too.

If all those teams are willing to pass why would I want to get him when I know our big problem is on the defensive front? I don't want to overpay Murray but I'm not looking for cheap not on a team who relied as much on the running game as Dallas did. Right now I would much rather get Murray signed and keep this offense going, anyone claiming it is all the OL is wrong even Garrett has said Murray was the heartbeat of this team, he is the guy this team leaned on and the OL have said it was just as much Murray as them. No doubt Murray is not going to put up a season as he did without the support of a very good OL, no RB does but people here are acting as if anyone can do this when fact is they can't. We have gone through some RB and no one came close to the over all production of Murray in running, blocking and receiving and all of those aspect of his game are critical to this offense.

 

[reddyuta]

I just cannot countenance a 1st rd RB,you cant put so much of your top resources on the offense neglecting the D which is clearly the the one lacking in talent from top to bottom.Murray was a 3rd RDer too,we just have to pick a RB who is good in all areas including pass protection and he can run behind our Oline.

 

[btcutter]

I ask all you rb in the first rounders a question... Would picking up Gordon or Gurley in the first make us a better team than last year... Or would picking up a DE or a Safety make us a better team...

Not really a good question, IMO.

The better question IMO is ......Would Cowboys be better with a FA DL + Gordon or Gurley vs Murray + 1st round S/DL ? I chose FA DL + Gurley because at 27 it's hard to find a DL that's ready to make a significant impact at least in his 1st yr. Furthermore, this DL is likely 5th to 8th best DL selected vs the best RB selected. Lastly, RB almost always can make an immediate impact as it takes the least time to transition from college to NFL. One final thought is that I like locking up a premium RB at bargain price for next 4-5 yrs then move on to the next one.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Not really a good question, IMO.

The better question IMO is ......Would Cowboys be better with a FA DL + Gordon or Gurley vs Murray + 1st round S/DL ? I chose FA DL + Gurley because at 27 it's hard to find a DL that's ready to make a significant impact at least in his 1st yr. Furthermore, this DL is likely 5th to 8th best DL selected vs the best RB selected. Lastly, RB almost always can make an immediate impact as it takes the least time to transition from college to NFL. One final thought is that I like locking up a premium RB at bargain price for next 4-5 yrs then move on to the next one.

Said RB needs to be able to help protect our QB, who with out him we might as well just fold the season. Can a plug and play RB fresh out of school do that? There's more to Murray than you guys are giving him credit for.

 

[Enlightened32]

Gurley had an ACL tear. Not that big a deal and should be ready by TC according to the latest statement by his doctors. Most mocks I have seen don't have him getting passed 16.

 

[btcutter]

Said RB needs to be able to help protect our QB, who with out him we might as well just fold the season. Can a plug and play RB fresh out of school do that? There's more to Murray than you guys are giving him credit for.

Don't disagree. But is he worth 7-9 million per year for next 4 years? Are we willing to tie up that time of cap money?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Not only the money, but the top RB prospect will be available.

Also, Randle is a clown and a dummy. Anyone in line for a promotion who gets arrested again, cannot be depended on.

Bye bye, and take care. Hello Ryan Williams, congrats on your promotion!

And there's a real good chance with the injury, that Gurley is going to fall right in the Cowboys lap. He is the second coming of Beast Mode. A can't miss RB prospect that will step right in where Murray left off. The draft is deep at Oline talent and DE's. Every mock I've seen has him falling to the bottom of round 1.

Mayan, if Randle had that carry that Murray fumbled vs Green Bay then he would scored and we would not be stalking about this.

Murray is staying,

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

Right, but offensive line and running the ball is what Garrett wanted to focus this team being best at.

I was responding to your statement, "Jerry is not going to draft a DT in round 1 period as that won't satisfy the sexy mantra".

also to respond to;

Most teams do not draft DT in the 1st round unless it's a SUH!

There has been an average of about 3 or 4 each year taken in the first round except for last year. True it is a very hard position to fill and that's because of the nature of the size of the human it takes to play that position. There just aren't that many out there and when there is one, teams draft them.

Here is a link to a very good article from several years back on the drafting of DT. I thought is was a good read.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/columns/story?id=5040003

And here is a recent article and data from BTB I thought was very insightful:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...can-you-expect-from-a-rookie-defensive-tackle

So my opinion is that if we don't draft a DT in the first, it wont be because it's not a sexy pick, but because there is not one there worth a first. And just to add to that "sexy pick" statement, I bet there will be more DT's taken in the first round this year QB's.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Don't disagree. But is he worth 7-9 million per year for next 4 years? Are we willing to tie up that time of cap money?

As long as Romo is the QB we have a shot at the SB if he's healthy. If that means paying Murray then yes. Once Romos gone unless we find a replacement a ton quicker than we found him? We are in trouble any way. So far I don't see any thing that says we are looking to groom a QB.
I want a SB.

 

[unionjack8]

gurley is the 2nd best talent in the whole draft class behind Leonard Williams

 

[CATCH17]

Pass on Gurley unless he drops into 3rd.
RB coming off a knee injury in November. How much can he contribute and what will be his health come draft time, in his rehab.

Agreed.

I like him but I don't want a rookie coming off a ACL..

Look how long it took McGahee to have an impact and he was a beast in college.

 

[xwalker]

Not only the money, but the top RB prospect will be available.

Also, Randle is a clown and a dummy. Anyone in line for a promotion who gets arrested again, cannot be depended on.

Bye bye, and take care. Hello Ryan Williams, congrats on your promotion!

And there's a real good chance with the injury, that Gurley is going to fall right in the Cowboys lap. He is the second coming of Beast Mode. A can't miss RB prospect that will step right in where Murray left off. The draft is deep at Oline talent and DE's. Every mock I've seen has him falling to the bottom of round 1.

The problem is that if teams think he will be ready for game 1 then he will go higher in the draft. If he is not ready then the Cowboys are short at RB to start the season. If he misses training camp and goes on PUP then he's probably not contributing until after mid season.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Blowing? A potential blue chip replacement RB is blowing the pick.

Ok, if you could have Beast Mode or one Seattle's defensive lineman, who would you take?

With our line....Defensive Lineman

 

[btcutter]

Agreed.

I like him but I don't want a rookie coming off a ACL..

Look how long it took McGahee to have an impact and he was a beast in college.

I think McGahee's injury is completely different. Entire knee was reconstructed.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Going to be some POd people when Murray gets resigned to a nice friendly deal. I can't wait so all this BS finally gets put to bed.

Why would anyone be upset with having Murray on a friendly deal?

It's having him for more than 5 million bucks that makes everyone sick.

We have an elite offensive line but not a rb who can hit the home run.

That sucks.

I'd rather have a guy who is cheap and can get what's blocked than have a guy who is expensive.... And can get what's blocked.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Why would anyone be upset with having Murray on a friendly deal?

It's having him for more than 5 million bucks that makes everyone sick.

We have an elite offensive line but not a rb who can hit the home run.

That sucks.

I'd rather have a guy who is cheap and can get what's blocked than have a guy who is expensive.... And can get what's blocked.

You leave out other essentials that our offense needs that we know we get with Murray. He also gained plenty of tough yards that no one seems to care about. Lets leave our QBs health up to a cheap option. Brilliant!

 

[Nightman]

Why would anyone be upset with having Murray on a friendly deal?

It's having him for more than 5 million bucks that makes everyone sick.

We have an elite offensive line but not a rb who can hit the home run.

That sucks.

I'd rather have a guy who is cheap and can get what's blocked than have a guy who is expensive.... And can get what's blocked.

He hits a lot of double and triples. I think he led the league in 10, 20 and 40 yd runs.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

He hits a lot of double and triples. I think he led the league in 10, 20 and 40 yd runs.

But those all could have been home runs. SSSSHHHHHHHHH