Murray is gone because the top RB prospect is available

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dallas should probably take the top CB available. But if the top RB is there.....

I wouldn't be opposed to a CB but i'd be highly disappointed if we don't take a solid pass rusher at that point.

 

[big dog cowboy]

This is exactly right, and while Gurley is all that, I agree he will be a beast in this league, I wonder how old most of the posters in this forum are, because drafting Gurley with that pick is a childs fantasy christmas move, its shiny and new, oh boy oh boy...
So reality sets in after the draft, and Dallas does what its been doing the past three + yrs and thats a prudent sound draft, and going trenches early.
I hope for the sake of this team, and this very young, uneducated fan base, that a team like Jacksonville take Gurley out of the equation way before this team is on the board.

Just 1 year ago we spent months going round and round about a flashy QB that Jerry was supposed to be in love with. Something straight out of a childs fantasy christmas move, its shiny and new, oh boy oh boy. Turns out it didn't happen then and it won't happen now.

 

[ftghb]

maybe if he was an actual 'can't miss talent'. He certainly has some size, but he has none of the burst and acceleration at the second level that AP or even lynch has. Part of lynch's appeal was that he was stout at 5'11 224, but also had GREAT hands coming out of jeff tedford's system.

And coming off a knee injury? Not touching with a ten footpole until the 3rd round

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

The kid out of Miami was mentioned by McShay as a RB that has loads of potential, but won't cost a team a high draft pick.

Duke Johnson wet the bed the second half against FSU this year, not to mention he broke his ankle last year.
Yeldon is a good change of pace back, but he wasn't even the best back Bama had. I'm not sure how he would hold up in pass coverage.

Both good prospects, but I wouldn't put my Super Bowl run trust in them.

 

[gimmesix]

Not only the money, but the top RB prospect will be available.

Also, Randle is a clown and a dummy. Anyone in line for a promotion who gets arrested again, cannot be depended on.

Bye bye, and take care. Hello Ryan Williams, congrats on your promotion!

And there's a real good chance with the injury, that Gurley is going to fall right in the Cowboys lap. He is the second coming of Beast Mode. A can't miss RB prospect that will step right in where Murray left off. The draft is deep at Oline talent and DE's. Every mock I've seen has him falling to the bottom of round 1.

There is no such thing as a can't miss prospect at any position. People though Alonzo Highsmith was can't miss back in the day, or William Green or Rashan Salaam or Lawrence Phillips ...

There's something to be said about a bird in the hand.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I half always said, i say: let go off a proven commidity (Murray) and take a chance on a cheaper unknown commodity. It works in the said business and I know it can work in the NFL.

 

[KJJ]

With all the help the Cowboys need on defense it would be a blow to have to select an RB with their first pick due to losing the top rusher in the league to free agency. Selecting an RB in the first round wouldn't improve the team you're just hoping you can keep the running game intact with the pick. There's no guarantees he would be as good as Murray. To improve you have to find a way to keep your best players and add another good player at a position of need and the Cowboys need defensive help.

 

[Rockport]

Not only the money, but the top RB prospect will be available.

Also, Randle is a clown and a dummy. Anyone in line for a promotion who gets arrested again, cannot be depended on.

Bye bye, and take care. Hello Ryan Williams, congrats on your promotion!

And there's a real good chance with the injury, that Gurley is going to fall right in the Cowboys lap. He is the second coming of Beast Mode. A can't miss RB prospect that will step right in where Murray left off. The draft is deep at Oline talent and DE's. Every mock I've seen has him falling to the bottom of round 1.

Cowboys are hopefully smart enough to know not to waste a pick on a RB in the first rd.

 

[rpntex]

I wouldn't be opposed to a CB but i'd be highly disappointed if we don't take a solid pass rusher at that point.

I'd bet that is the first choice of this front office, but every analysis I've seen has all the top-level pass rushers gone before pick #27 rolls around. I, myself, wouldn't be surprised to see ten defensive linemen drafted before Dallas gets a chance to pick. If that's the case, I don't expect Dallas to take a DLman just because that's their main area of "need". That's just bad drafting.

I think Dallas is going to try and shore up the pass rush in free agency. Not a Suh-type, elite, player necessarily, but a mid-level free agent who can contribute right away. That more than anything will shape what direction Dallas goes in the draft. I've always been a fan of taking the BPA - regardless of need - and I think Garrett-McClay-Jones espouses the same philosophy, as evidenced by the Zack Martin pick. If you're going to target a certain position, then trade back and take someone whose value is equivalent to the slot you're drafting from. In other words, don't take a pass rusher at #27 if the top remaining one on your board has a mid-to-late 2nd round grade.

It's my opinion that if there isn't a pass rusher of value at #27, Dallas will try and trade back. If their efforts are unsuccessful, they'll take the best player available - even if it's a running back.

 

[DeaconMoss]

I'm starting to trend towards Buck Allen, if Dallas drafts a guy.

 

[MichaelValentino]

I have a legitimate question: Why all the opposition to taking a RB in round 1?

For example, in 75 the Cowboys took Randy White at no. 2 and the Bears took Walter Payton at no. 4. Randy White turned out to be an all-world DT but in SB X how much would having Payton run behind John Niland and Rayfield Wright have helped Staubach? The Bears never regretted for a second taking Payton or Gale Sayers or even Neal Anderson in the 1st round.

Tony Dorsett said a RB needs a lot of touches and he builds a rhythm and feel for the game that way. I've always preferred a star back over a committee.

If Gordon is there at 27 (I think that's very unlikely) or Gurley (may be there b/c of the knee) and if DM is not signed to a long-term deal, I would go with one of those guys. If they're not there at 27 I would like to see Yeldon or Coleman at the end of round 2. But whoever the Cowboys get, the coaches will have to coach up their blitz pickup.

I'd still like to see the Cowboys address pass rush help in FA, bring back McClain and Carter, give DM the franchise tag, tie up Dez long-term and if Gordon or Gurley are there take the RB at 27; if not, look for Yeldon or Coleman or the guy from BYU in the 2nd or 3rd. With the non-RB picks go D-line, FS and OT.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I have a legitimate question: Why all the opposition to taking a RB in round 1?

You do realize there hasn't been a RB taken in the first round in either of the last two drafts by any team in the league don't you?

 

[jobberone]

Don't want a RB in the first. Period.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Don't want a RB in the first. Period.

Absolutely the last resort and even then I'm against it.

 

[jobberone]

Absolutely the last resort and even then I'm against it.

Not necessary

 

[MichaelValentino]

You do realize there hasn't been a RB taken in the first round in either of the last two drafts by any team in the league don't you?

I understand that, but is it because of a philosophical change among NFL teams, an over-valueing of pass rushers and corners (next to QB, probably the two most coveted positions) or a lack of blue chip talent at the position?

What if Adrian Peterson was coming out of OU this year? Wouldn't he go in the 1st round? Or what if Bo Jackson was coming out of Auburn, Walter Payton out of Jackson State and Eric Dickerson out of SMU? I'm pretty sure there would be four RBs taken in the 1st round.

One can argue if Melvin Gordon will be a Pro Bowl player or if Todd Gurley's knee is worth a team's top pick (I'd like to see the Cowboys pick either at 27 if they don't have Murray locked up), but if there was a Walter Payton coming out this year, how do you pass up on such a rare talent even if the trend right now is away from investing top dollar in a back?

I'm not looking for an argument, simply better understanding of the thinking here. I'm new to the forum and trying to understand why we would not take Gurley if we land a pass rusher in FA (say JPP for example) and if Murray isn't signed to a 3- or 4-yr deal.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm not looking for an argument, simply better understanding of the thinking here. I'm new to the forum and trying to understand why we would not take Gurley if we land a pass rusher in FA (say JPP for example) and if Murray isn't signed to a 3- or 4-yr deal.

I wouldn't want to invest that high of a draft pick on a RB because of their shorter shelf life. Smith, Fredbeard and Martin should all be starters for at least 10 maybe longer. On a side note I would say if we added a DL like JPP (which we won't IMO) in FA I'd still want another DL at 27. We need multiple additions/upgrades to the DL.

Welcome to the forum! I hope you enjoy this place as much as the rest of us do.

 

[EST_1986]

I ask all you rb in the first rounders a question... Would picking up Gordon or Gurley in the first make us a better team than last year... Or would picking up a DE or a Safety make us a better team...

Depends on how they turn out. A bust DE or S while passing over a stud RB wouldn't help at all

 

[Nightman]

I understand that, but is it because of a philosophical change among NFL teams, an over-valueing of pass rushers and corners (next to QB, probably the two most coveted positions) or a lack of blue chip talent at the position?

What if Adrian Peterson was coming out of OU this year? Wouldn't he go in the 1st round? Or what if Bo Jackson was coming out of Auburn, Walter Payton out of Jackson State and Eric Dickerson out of SMU? I'm pretty sure there would be four RBs taken in the 1st round.

One can argue if Melvin Gordon will be a Pro Bowl player or if Todd Gurley's knee is worth a team's top pick (I'd like to see the Cowboys pick either at 27 if they don't have Murray locked up), but if there was a Walter Payton coming out this year, how do you pass up on such a rare talent even if the trend right now is away from investing top dollar in a back?

I'm not looking for an argument, simply better understanding of the thinking here. I'm new to the forum and trying to understand why we would not take Gurley if we land a pass rusher in FA (say JPP for example) and if Murray isn't signed to a 3- or 4-yr deal.

I agree that it shouldn't be discarded just because that is what everyone is doing. In fact that should be even more reason to do it . If everyone is overpaying for DE, OT, CB and QB then values can be had at OG, RB, LB.

Is 5-6 years out of a top RB really not worthy of a 1st round pick. People don't want to pay Murray and they don't want to draft a top guy, but they saw how a great running game benefited Romo and the Defense last year.

I think it's mostly trying to appear smarter than everyone else and trying to find that gem in the 5th round because someone else did it that way once. It would be like never drafting a QB because we found Romo as an UDFA.