Murray ranked as most overrated OP in the NFL

[rynochop]

I think we should say THANK YOU to him. He would have been hurt last year or this year and we would have wasted money on him and failed to draft a top end RB in his place until after he left.

He would have never played with that broken hand with guaranteed money...but yeah.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Given the contract he got, Dallas did the right thing with Murray.

I would have been fine with us taking David Johnson or Jeremy Langford last year. Both would be good in this offense and no need to burn a 4th overall pick (or two mid-late 1st rounders if we wanted) on a back this year.

Now just hoping Zeke makes it all worth while.

David Johnson is a monster. Hope Zeke is as good.

 

[dfense]

Didn't Murray get guaranteed money last year from Philly?

In the long run, if he just took what Dallas offered, he may have made more. No?

 

[wileedog]

Didn't Murray get guaranteed money last year from Philly?

In the long run, if he just took what Dallas offered, he may have made more. No?

I'm pretty sure he wasn't planning on completely sucking in Philly to the point they shipped him out on the first bus after the season.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

man 29 still getting post on this site.

 

[Sarge]

Eli Manning is far and away the most overrated player in the NFL.

Overrated by who? All I ever hear is how bad he sucks.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Screw Demarco Murray. He took the money to play for a division rival. Dallas offered him what was actually a right-sized deal for a back of his age and miles. Had he stayed, he might have ended up with more money overall and just a better career overall. As it is, he went to a hated rival, embarrassed himself, was somehow traded, and now plays for an NFL also-ran with another 2nd round pick nipping at his heels. He'll probably be out of the league entirely in two years.

I don't see hoe he makes more money.

His agent has done a tremendous job for him.

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

Lets see what he does with the Titans, however I would be surprised if he gets 300 carries with Henry there. You do wonder what would have happened if he stayed in Dallas. Likely a productive back for another couple seasons, we pass on Elliott and Ramsey is the pick. Quite the butterfly affect.

 

[plasticman]

Again, Murray was phenomenol for the moment he started carrying the ball in 2011.

As a rookie, he rushed for over 700 yards in his first 7 games.

He raised our offensive line.

He was the team's 3rd leading receiver during the 4 years he was here.

He was a great blocker.

He gave the Cowboys every chance to sign him first and they lowballed him.

Chip Kelly screwed up a few things but in one move he destroyed the Cowboys for 2015. Even with a healthy Romo the Cowboys running game couldn't dominate. Their yardage during garbage time made them look respectable but they couldnt be depended on.

We havent heard the last of DeMarco Murray, who was not a 1 year wonder, 2014 was his 2nd year as a Pro Bowler, he has been disrespected since the day he was drafted and far exceeded any expectations.

We move on to another legitimate real deal in Eliiot. We hope he acheives the same as our forner 3rd rounder during the term of his contract.

 

[Idgit]

I don't see hoe he makes more money.

His agent has done a tremendous job for him.

Yeah. Looking at it closer, he got $9M guaranteed last season, and another $12M guaranteed on what's basically a 2 year deal with the Titans. So that's $21M, at least. I was thinking the reported Dallas 4-$26M (?) offer would beat it, but it might not depending what TEN does with him in his 3rd season there.

 

[JDSmith]

Again, Murray was phenomenol for the moment he started carrying the ball in 2011.

As a rookie, he rushed for over 700 yards in his first 7 games.

He raised our offensive line.

He was the team's 3rd leading receiver during the 4 years he was here.

He was a great blocker.

He gave the Cowboys every chance to sign him first and they lowballed him.

Chip Kelly screwed up a few things but in one move he destroyed the Cowboys for 2015. Even with a healthy Romo the Cowboys running game couldn't dominate. Their yardage during garbage time made them look respectable but they couldnt be depended on.

We havent heard the last of DeMarco Murray, who was not a 1 year wonder, 2014 was his 2nd year as a Pro Bowler, he has been disrespected since the day he was drafted and far exceeded any expectations.

We move on to another legitimate real deal in Eliiot. We hope he acheives the same as our forner 3rd rounder during the term of his contract.

While I think Murray is hugely under-rated by a large portion of our fanbase, I can't agree that his absence hurt us in any meaningful way last year. The running game would have done nothing more with Murray than it did with McFadden. Murray was tired and slow last year, and the lack of a passing threat would have made him look as bad as he did for the Eagles - well, maybe not quite that bad.

And saying that our running game looked good in garbage time last year implies that we were getting beaten badly. We were in nearly every game, there was very little garbage time to be had. Our running game started to look good when we jettisoned Randle. Had McFadden been the starter all of last year he likely would have gained more yards for us than a tired and shopworn Murray would have. We ran Murray into the ground in 2014, the odds were heavily stacked against him being good in 2015 just based on his over-use the previous season. The Eagles did us a favor, had they not signed him he would likely have looked like a shell of his 2014 form because we wouldn't have had any passing threat and he would have been worn out. Then we would have looked like fools for re-signing him when everyone knows that approaching 400 touches pretty much kills any running back not named Emmitt or Dickerson.

 

[Sportsbabe]

I think after 2015 for Murray we can finally put the "not resigning Murray" argument to bed.

Granted he wasn't used properly in Philly, but he was never worth the price and them trading him at the end of the season solidified it even more. Murray had a dream year with health in a dream offense with a dream Oline and got a dream 400 carries in 2014. Once in a life time perfect storm that he will probably never have again.

Cosign

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yeah. Looking at it closer, he got $9M guaranteed last season, and another $12M guaranteed on what's basically a 2 year deal with the Titans. So that's $21M, at least. I was thinking the reported Dallas 4-$26M (?) offer would beat it, but it might not depending what TEN does with him in his 3rd season there.

Thought it was 4 years 24m with 12 guaranteed from the Cowboys.

Hard not to take what Philly offered as a breadwinner. I don't begrudge him.

I also didn't want to sign him to a deal because rbs are fungible. We then turn around and spend a 4 on Zeke. Jokes on me.

 

[superjoe]

Good ole Spray Tan, laughing all the way to the bank!

 

[starfrombirth]

Eli Manning is far and away the most overrated player in the NFL.

I never understood the sentiment. He has two Super Bowls and if we didn't have Romo and had him instead we would be over the moon for him. I'm not his fan because he's not a Dallas Cowboy but he's not a bad player.

 

[Stash]

Screw Demarco Murray. He took the money to play for a division rival. Dallas offered him what was actually a right-sized deal for a back of his age and miles. Had he stayed, he might have ended up with more money overall and just a better career overall. As it is, he went to a hated rival, embarrassed himself, was somehow traded, and now plays for an NFL also-ran with another 2nd round pick nipping at his heels. He'll probably be out of the league entirely in two years.

In hindsight, he couldn't have made a worse career decision if he'd wanted to. It's mind boggling how bad things went! I thought it would go Rickey Watters " for who, for what" when he signed in Philadelphia, but I didn't think he'd be gone in a year!

And, big picture wise, I think his mistake actually did the Cowboys a favor in the long term.

I'll criticize moves when I feel they deserve it, but I give Dallas credit for sticking to their guns and not overpaying for what looks to be a declining player.

 

[Seven]

I find it hard to hate DeMarco, he's always been a class act.

He'd have been better off staying here, but I don't begrudge his going after the money. I still have no idea why Philly thought he'd be a good addition, he didn't fit their scheme at all.

Got Kelly shown the door, IMO.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Chip Kelly screwed up a few things but in one move he destroyed the Cowboys for 2015.

He was responsible for Romo and Dez getting hurt in one move? Exactly how did he pull that off?

 

[plasticman]

While I think Murray is hugely under-rated by a large portion of our fanbase, I can't agree that his absence hurt us in any meaningful way last year. The running game would have done nothing more with Murray than it did with McFadden. Murray was tired and slow last year, and the lack of a passing threat would have made him look as bad as he did for the Eagles - well, maybe not quite that bad.

And saying that our running game looked good in garbage time last year implies that we were getting beaten badly. We were in nearly every game, there was very little garbage time to be had. Our running game started to look good when we jettisoned Randle. Had McFadden been the starter all of last year he likely would have gained more yards for us than a tired and shopworn Murray would have. We ran Murray into the ground in 2014, the odds were heavily stacked against him being good in 2015 just based on his over-use the previous season. The Eagles did us a favor, had they not signed him he would likely have looked like a shell of his 2014 form because we wouldn't have had any passing threat and he would have been worn out. Then we would have looked like fools for re-signing him when everyone knows that approaching 400 touches pretty much kills any running back not named Emmitt or Dickerson.

It is an absolute myth that a season of close to 400 carries will wear out a RB. Its simply not true and was started by some media people that were way too proud of the C- they got in Statistics for Journaism Majors.

If you use Murray's number of carrries (392) as the median and take the record carries (416) as the upper bound then the lower bound becomes he number of carries that are also within that range but the opposite direction (368).

We can now correctly say that we included all RB's that are within 24 carries of DeMarco Murray.

What we get is a Who's Who of elite RB's in history. There are 35 occasions in which a RB had 24 carries withing Murray's total, including the NFL record.

And now the relevent stats:

19% of those seasons were performed by someone who did it at least twice.

48% of those seasons were by a Hall of Famer.

Their average career was 10.5 seasons.

Again, Ive moved on and beleive Ezekiel will help us forget about Murray's circunstances with Dallas. But as far as the NFL is concerned, he is not going away.

The Titans have Mariota and correctly surmised that a power running game would be his best friend.

The Titans drafted an offensive lineman in the 1st round this year. That is the 3rd time they have drafted a O-lineman in the 1st round in the past 4 drafts. Sound familiar?

 

[tyke1doe]

Screw Demarco Murray. He took the money to play for a division rival. Dallas offered him what was actually a right-sized deal for a back of his age and miles. Had he stayed, he might have ended up with more money overall and just a better career overall. As it is, he went to a hated rival, embarrassed himself, was somehow traded, and now plays for an NFL also-ran with another 2nd round pick nipping at his heels. He'll probably be out of the league entirely in two years.

I think Murray did the right thing. He got more money out of the deal, which he was looking for (despite his laughable 'Going to the Eagles to win a Super Bowl' comments).

Let's assume he had stayed here. Let's assume we go 4-12 again. Does anyone think the Cowboys would have NOT taken Zeke Elliott even with Murray on the roster?

I think Zeke still would have been the pick, and Murray would be trade bait.

I can't hate him for securing that one big contract he was looking for - a contract his career won't outlive. And even if he does last longer than his contract, he won't see another one like it.