Murray was the main reason we had a chance to win

[ChooChoo73]

Thrilled for the win. Proud of this team. Murray is part of group that deserves ton of credit. Terrance Williams, Scandrick, and Tyron Smith all made big plays but Romo clearly made the biggest plays. Almost all of the 4th down conversions/escape artist plays were orchestrated by him. He has had his bad plays but yesterday Romo was the best player on field at the most critical times in the most important game of the season.

 

[theebs]

Murray was great yesterday. He didn't play against Philly the first time, he is going to have to be great sunday night because we need something to offset that aggessive front,

Would love to see Murray rush about 20 times and catch about 10 balls Sunday night.

 

[Kaiser]

No you go look at the tape. Hall was in position whether he slipped or not. It's not as easy of a catch as you make it seem.

I never said it was an easy catch, I said it wasn't a bad throw because it will very rarely be intercepted. If he doesn't slip Dez will come back on that ball against a DB that is 4 inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter. He will either catch it or knock it down, but if he keeps his footing (which he did up to the point Romo released the ball) it won't be a pick. Romo throws to Dez in that type of coverage all day long and Dez catches most of them. The ones he doesn't catch he keeps the DB from catching it.

 

[Kaiser]

Watching the replay of Murray's long run, I loved watching TWill continue blocking downfield. He never gave up on the play.
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TWill has made an amazing adjustment to the NFL as a rookie. If he continues this level of development he is going to be a tremendous #2 WR next year. If we get the normal second/third year improvement from Hanna and Escobar at TE next year as well, all the better.

 

[beevomav]

The main reason we had a chance to win. Only 3 carries short of what he deserves weekly. 25+ next week and were in! Do it in the postseason and we might get a W! Just add another example to why he deserves 25+ carries every week! Ha ha passing team apologists! We are running team and have been all season. Hope Jerry recognizes it from here on out since he's the coach!

You use Murry as a back handed slap to Romo. On the last drive, you know the one that won the game. Romo threw for 92 of the 87 yards.

 

[50cent]

When you talk about run -vs- pass, I'm with you, .. I would love to be a running team. When you talk about poor coaching decisions or play calling, I'm right with you.

But when you say running Murray is a good decision and having Romo throw is a bad, .. that is a silly thing to say and I cannot agree with you.

You have praised Murray in this thread and bashed Romo, choosing one over the other, ... that is ridiculous and like I mentioned earlier, somewhat embarassing.

We need both running and passing, we need both Murray and Romo. The fact that we do have both is awesome. Both guys are very important/critical for us to have a balanced offense.

Let me put it this way. I've mentioned it numerous times before. I THINK ROMO THROWING IT 30+ A GAME IS A MISTAKE, BUT THINK THAT WITH A COMMITTED EFFORT, NOT DOMINATE EFFORT TO RUN THE BALL 25+ TIMES THROUGHOUT THE GAME AND NOT JUST WHEN WE HAVE A PERCEIVED 4TH QTR COMFY LEAD THAT ROMO IS A CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER QB!

I have also complained that 2nd and 8 (we pass nearly 82% in this exact situation) should never automatically be a passing down since week 1. So, why do you think that on 2nd and 8 with a lead that I would be happy with a passing play that resulted in a TO, why? Especially after our effective running game had just gained 13 yards on the first two plays of the series. That play is the prime example of my frustration with this season. The pass play should have never been called, thus giving Murray 23 carries and protecting the ball at the same time.

It's Romo throwing in certain situations (damn near everyone of them as proven by GB and other games) that make me cringe honestly. Dont you think everyone else knows we pass 82% of the time and expect it and can maybe recognize formations to counterside said expected pass to put themselves in position to create a TO? I DO!!!

So yes, I am and will continue to say that throwing on 2nd and 8 or 7 or 9 all of the time is bad and when we give it to Murray in that situation (18%), its a good thing. Even if he doesn't gain a single yard or losses a few. We still keep the ball (0 run game TOs this season) and its 3rd and 10 at the most with a vaunted passing attack to bail us out on 3rd down. Because no one can ever stop our passing game on any down and distance because we have so many weapons for teams to matchup (sarcasm) with us (and yet they always seem to)!

See the whole picture with me please! I have never liked us pass pass passing and I don't think expressing my feelings about it are embarrasing at all. I love the Cowboys and ROMO but think the philosophy on we should win more is wrong. Nothing embarrassing about that when they keep proving my right with the same mistakes week in and week out. THE PROCESS isn't working for Romo to get us where we need to be.

We have needed Romo and Murray all season (more of Murray at times IMO) and not just these last couple of weeks. I think it embarrassing that every time we actually have used Murray (the 20+ stat) throughout the game, we have won all of them and that the brass and staff haven't caught on to it YET. Not to mention the players. This long soapbox is not meant as anger to you but just venting honestly.

Lastly, I have mentioned as well that if we run Murray 25+ times that I think we can beat Philly and even potentially win a postseason game with Romo. I honestly believe this and I hope they prove me right, but again it starts with a committment to the run with me!

 

[50cent]

You use Murry as a back handed slap to Romo. On the last drive, you know the one that won the game. Romo threw for 92 of the 87 yards.

Your point?! Murray got his touches (20+), Romo threw it less than 30 times and we won. Something I suggested needed to be done to consistently win whether its a back handed slap to Romo or the truth. It worked again and I'm once again vindicated.

I can only imagine what would have happened had we not given Murray the ball 3 straight times at the goalline and he ended with 19 carries. Thus giving Romo 3 more chances to throw for every yard on that drive and make the mistake that always seems to happen.

It worked out, be happy. Lets just hope it continues next week!

 

[WV Cowboy]

Let me put it this way. I've mentioned it numerous times before. I THINK ROMO THROWING IT 30+ A GAME IS A MISTAKE, BUT THINK THAT WITH A COMMITTED EFFORT, NOT DOMINATE EFFORT TO RUN THE BALL 25+ TIMES THROUGHOUT THE GAME AND NOT JUST WHEN WE HAVE A PERCEIVED 4TH QTR COMFY LEAD THAT ROMO IS A CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER QB!

I have also complained that 2nd and 8 (we pass nearly 82% in this exact situation) should never automatically be a passing down since week 1. So, why do you think that on 2nd and 8 with a lead that I would be happy with a passing play that resulted in a TO, why? Especially after our effective running game had just gained 13 yards on the first two plays of the series. That play is the prime example of my frustration with this season. The pass play should have never been called, thus giving Murray 23 carries and protecting the ball at the same time.

It's Romo throwing in certain situations (damn near everyone of them as proven by GB and other games) that make me cringe honestly. Dont you think everyone else knows we pass 82% of the time and expect it and can maybe recognize formations to counterside said expected pass to put themselves in position to create a TO? I DO!!!

So yes, I am and will continue to say that throwing on 2nd and 8 or 7 or 9 all of the time is bad and when we give it to Murray in that situation (18%), its a good thing. Even if he doesn't gain a single yard or losses a few. We still keep the ball (0 run game TOs this season) and its 3rd and 10 at the most with a vaunted passing attack to bail us out on 3rd down. Because no one can ever stop our passing game on any down and distance because we have so many weapons for teams to matchup (sarcasm) with us (and yet they always seem to)!

See the whole picture with me please! I have never liked us pass pass passing and I don't think expressing my feelings about it are embarrasing at all. I love the Cowboys and ROMO but think the philosophy on we should win more is wrong. Nothing embarrassing about that when they keep proving my right with the same mistakes week in and week out. THE PROCESS isn't working for Romo to get us where we need to be.

We have needed Romo and Murray all season (more of Murray at times IMO) and not just these last couple of weeks. I think it embarrassing that every time we actually have used Murray (the 20+ stat) throughout the game, we have won all of them and that the brass and staff haven't caught on to it YET. Not to mention the players. This long soapbox is not meant as anger to you but just venting honestly.

Lastly, I have mentioned as well that if we run Murray 25+ times that I think we can beat Philly and even potentially win a postseason game with Romo. I honestly believe this and I hope they prove me right, but again it starts with a committment to the run with me!

Heavens, .. did you not even read my post?

I said previously that I agreed with everything you say in this "soapbox" post.

Your bashing of Romo is my only problem with your posts.

You act like Murray is the next Emmitt, .. and Romo is Hutchinson or Hogeboom !

That is where your posts are embarassing.

 

[Verdict]

Murray has always had a knack for "making himself small" and extending for the first down, or getting in the end zone. It was the same way back in his career at OU, especially on the perimeter. It will look like is is going to be three or four yards shy of the marker/goal line and and he will extend and get the required yardage. The guy is money if you just give him a reasonable chance to make a play.

 

[50cent]

I never said it was an easy catch, I said it wasn't a bad throw because it will very rarely be intercepted. If he doesn't slip Dez will come back on that ball against a DB that is 4 inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter. He will either catch it or knock it down, but if he keeps his footing (which he did up to the point Romo released the ball) it won't be a pick. Romo throws to Dez in that type of coverage all day long and Dez catches most of them. The ones he doesn't catch he keeps the DB from catching it.

All of these what ifs that never happened. Hall had tight coverage on a motionless receiver on the sideline and the ball was thrown right into Halls gut. If Dez has all of these size advantage, what if Romo threw it higher for Dez to use all of those advantages? Maybe Hall has to stretch for it and drops it, even with a slip? Just saying!

 

[beevomav]

Your point?! Murray got his touches (20+), Romo threw it less than 30 times and we won. Something I suggested needed to be done to consistently win whether its a back handed slap to Romo or the truth. It worked again and I'm once again vindicated.

I can only imagine what would have happened had we not given Murray the ball 3 straight times at the goalline and he ended with 19 carries. Thus giving Romo 3 more chances to throw for every yard on that drive and make the mistake that always seems to happen.

It worked out, be happy. Lets just hope it continues next week!

Idioticy..

 

[50cent]

Heavens, .. did you not even read my post?

I said previously that I agreed with everything you say in this "soapbox" post.

Your bashing of Romo is my only problem with your posts.

You act like Murray is the next Emmitt, .. and Romo is Hutchinson or Hogeboom !

That is where your posts are embarassing.

And you act like I haven't called Romo a championship caliber (far from bashing) that needs help from his Emmitt-like healthy running back. You also act like romo doesn't deserve to get bashed when once again he is part of blowing another yes another 2nd half lead with the passing game to put us in come from behind situations that could have been avoided. And yes even when he throws it to a new full back that has little experience handling the ball on a predictible play call that result in a TO. We just see that aspect differently and I'm fine with that.

 

[Kaiser]

All of these what ifs that never happened. Hall had tight coverage on a motionless receiver on the sideline and the ball was thrown right into Halls gut.

I still disagree. Dez was still in his route and coming back to line of scrimmage when Romo released the ball. Dez slipped after the ball left Romo's hand (actually just as the ball left his hand). You make it sound like Dez was sitting in a lawn chair sipping a cold one when Romo made the throw, in reality the play looked like a normal play when Romo made the throw but Dez slipping coming back to the ball.

 

[50cent]

I still disagree. Dez was still in his route and coming back to line of scrimmage when Romo released the ball. Dez slipped after the ball left Romo's hand (actually just as the ball left his hand). You make it sound like Dez was sitting in a lawn chair sipping a cold one when Romo made the throw, in reality the play looked like a normal play when Romo made the throw but Dez slipping coming back to the ball.

I haven't seen it from every angle, but it looks like a curl (motionless) or a sideline comeback but either way it was delivered in a bad position with Dez said advantages and based on where Hall was too.

 

[Kaiser]

I haven't seen it from every angle, but it looks like a curl (motionless) or a sideline comeback but either way it was delivered in a bad position with Dez said advantages and based on where Hall was too.

Actually I only posted so I could make the joke about Dez sitting in a lawn chair drinking a beer.

 

[WV Cowboy]

You also act like romo doesn't deserve to get bashed when once again he is part of blowing another yes another 2nd half lead with the passing game to put us in come from behind situations that could have been avoided. And yes even when he throws it to a new full back that has little experience handling the ball on a predictible play call that result in a TO.

This is the embarassing part.

Your anti-Romo agenda looks foolish when you try to blame him for the FB's fumble. You alude to him being a new back with little experience handling the ball.

What about Spurlock being new and not having handled the ball lately? How did that turn out.

Stop bashing Romo, and realize he is one of the best.

 

[50cent]

This is the embarassing part.

Your anti-Romo agenda looks foolish when you try to blame him for the FB's fumble. You alude to him being a new back with little experience handling the ball.

What about Spurlock being new and not having handled the ball lately? How did that turn out.

Stop bashing Romo, and realize he is one of the best.

What does Spurlock being a proven vet that always handles the ball as his duty have to do with a FB that hardly ever touches the ball. You can disagree with me not wanting Romo to throw the ball 30+ times but now youre changing the argument to ST play. What agenda could I have? Nothing I say on this board will ever stop Garrett and crew from passing. AGENDA?! You're funny though, I'll give you that.

 

[Texas_Pete]

Time for 30 touches for DM29 going forward.

 

[WV Cowboy]

What does Spurlock being a proven vet that always handles the ball as his duty have to do with a FB that hardly ever touches the ball. You can disagree with me not wanting Romo to throw the ball 30+ times but now youre changing the argument to ST play. What agenda could I have? Nothing I say on this board will ever stop Garrett and crew from passing. AGENDA?! You're funny though, I'll give you that.

Seriously, you seem to have reading comprehension. I have told you what I agree with you on, and what I disagree with you on.

I will say that you not recognizing Romo as a great NFL QB is embarassing.

 

[50cent]

Seriously, you seem to have reading comprehension. I have told you what I agree with you on, and what I disagree with you on.

I will say that you not recognizing Romo as a great NFL QB is embarassing.

Great, now this!

Great as in great? Like HOF great? Like Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach, John Elway, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning SB WINNING QB great? With one career playoff win great? Or just the overused, doesn't really apply to Romo great?

Now you're embarrassing yourself by calling an undrafted rookie FA that has not done squat that matters to be considered great Great! Great story, I'll give you that but Romo is FAR from the real meaning of great. Get real with yourself pimp!