My 3 team trade involving Dak

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  1. McKDaddy

    McKDaddy Well-Known Member

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    only flaw in his game is he has to take chances to keep that team competitive and in the playoffs every year.
     
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  2. HanD

    HanD Well-Known Member

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    normally i wouldn't trade dak and a 1st for wilson but this scenario would require seattle eating a lot of dead cap and the receiving team gets wilson at a cap hit would avg in the mid 20s for the next 3 years which is a steal.

    seattle would have to eat so much cap to trade wilson and then cut players to get under the cap...

    i don't think the raiders give up a first and carr for dak because they are cap strapped and wouldn't want to double their QBs salary commitment.
     
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  3. Sydla

    Sydla Well-Known Member

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    You would be paying Wilson less than you would Dak.
     
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  4. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Other than the fact that he has a generally poor pocket presence and doesn't get rid of the ball quickly, sure.
     
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  5. Aviano90

    Aviano90 Go Seahawks!!!

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    So we're a few million dollars away from winning. Go it. :laugh:
     
  6. zrinkill

    zrinkill Troller of Trolls Zone Supporter

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    Jeebus
     
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  7. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    If we must pay a QB then i'd much rather have Wilson at a cheaper price then Dak.

    I think we're a team trending down though and the better option would be to roll the dice in the draft and get the cheapest option possible and focus on stacking the rest of the roster.
     
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  8. McKDaddy

    McKDaddy Well-Known Member

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    surprised by that comment from you Future.
    I believe most folks regard his pocket presence as outstanding. routinely clowning defenders to keep the play alive because he has to buy time in order to drop those dimes to receivers who aren't really open or to allow them to get 40 yards downfield.
    All things equal, i would take his "flaws" any day.
     
  9. USArmyVet

    USArmyVet Well-Known Member

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    I have said it several times already but if I ran the Cowboys I call the Raiders and I call Dak and figure out how to obtain Derek Carr plus another player and the Raiders 1st in 2021 for Dak Prescott.

    While Carr has not had the winning stats with the Raiders in part due to a screwed up run franchise, his personal stats are not debatable:

    Career Stats

    2014-2020 (110 Games) 2,468 for 3,830 Comp % 64.4% 26,896 Yards 170 TD's 71 INT's


    Even more enticing is Carr's stats from 2016-2020 (78 Games):

    1,770 for 2,658 Comp % 66.6% 19,639 Yards 117 TD's 46 INT's

    Carr is actually improving and becoming a much more efficient NFL starting QB in spite of the team record. Carr turns 30 in March (just 2 years older than Dak who turns 28 in July) and when you compare Carr's stats from 2016-2020 to that of Dak Prescott's stats, you will see something interesting:

    Dak Prescott 2016-2020 (69 Games):

    1,514 for 2,293 Comp % 66% 17,634 Yards 106 TD's 40 INT's


    Carr's salary cap hits:

    2021: $22.125M

    2022: $19.877M

    Getting him affords Dallas to reallocate some financial resources towards fixing the defense while suffering no drop off at the QB position.
     
  10. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    No, it's not, especially not the back half of last year. Like Watson, a lot of the scrambling, big plays are because he holds the ball too long, or creates pressure with poor movement. Too often being a great runner is associated with being great in the pocket.

    From the paywalled site - “What is wrong with Russell Wilson?” a veteran coach who watched the game said at the time. “He is seeing ghosts. They act like they are not protecting him, but he kills the protection. There are times they got a clean pocket, he runs up in there, he just panics. He is not playing very good at all.”
     
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  11. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    Not in a win now mode? BS. The offense if the OL stays healthy is in a win now mode. It was more scheme and injuries last year that made the defense suck. Now with a new scheme, get some of these players healthy, a good draft. so if the defense can even be middle of the pack, they are ready.

    3 or 4 bad drafts in a row? what the hell, you expect a pro bowler even in the 7th round?
     
  12. Adreme

    Adreme Well-Known Member

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    Okay lets make it simple. 2017,2018, and 2019 tell me who the top picks are from the first half of those drafts because in a good draft you find 1 playmaker at the top. Also, tell me who the solid starters are from those drafts in the mid to late rounds. They simply do not exist. The top was a disaster and the bottom did not find enough solid starters. Hitting on drafts is how you win in the NFL and only a fool would say 2017-2019 drafts are anything but a significant L across the board.
     
  13. OmerV

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    The Cowboys would be the winner in this, and maybe the Seahawks would think about it if they could sign Carr to an extension at a reasonable price, but I don't see this working for the Raiders who would give up Carr, a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick to get Prescott on a big contract and a 3rd round pick.
     
  14. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    So you are calling me a fool? get lost dude, look at the entire drafts. 2017, we had some serviceable players, for the years they were here. Taco was a bust. 2018 and 2019, you are wrong, as give another 1 or 2 years. And we are getting good production from them, not their fault they had a horrible scheme and injuries last year. As I said you expect a pro bowl player at every round. Who is being the fool? not me.
     
  15. fivetwos

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    Great call.

    He looks terribly uncomfortable in the pocket. I'd call it pocket awareness more than presence but that's just semantics.

    Way too many times he needed to take off and get a 1st down with his legs, chose not to, and looked very indecisive in doing so.

    IMO the more he runs the more successful he is.

    Seemed like the team tried to turn him into a pocket passer after 2016.

    My biggest concern is he won't run at all after the injury and the decline in his overall game continues.
     
  16. Vanilla2

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    I think if you trade for Wilson you are probably reworking his deal at some point.
     
  17. cowboyschmps3

    cowboyschmps3 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I wouldn’t give that up but just so you know.
     
  18. fivetwos

    fivetwos Well-Known Member

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    No...but it WOULD be nice to hit on a solid starter in the 4th or 5th round for a change.

    Other teams amazingly do that here and there.
     
  19. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    strapped for cash and haven’t heard of something called the salary cap? It’s tough out there right now we just can’t afford any high priced player. Much less a quarterback. I suggest we rescind the tag and let Stephen get out there to find a hidden gem in free agency.
     
  20. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    What if a trade were to happen, then Wilson holds out for a bigger contract. :muttley:
     
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