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- I’m not so sure how much the Crayton injury will impact the team this year. Granted, he’s a good player and makes for another tough possession receiver. But, that could have us focus on Witten more and I like Witten catching passes more than Crayton. The problem is that Price isn’t really a possession receiver and if they feature Witten more, that takes him out of the pass protection. Perhaps they could use Pierce and Campbell as extra blockers and line up Witten out wide where Crayton usually plays. I have no idea what they are going to do at punt returner.

- 20 sacks through 6 games. That’s on pace for 53.3 sacks this year. You want to know why sacks are the greatest correlation to winning in the NFL? Because they lose yards for the offense and in this case, help force turnovers. You typically don’t win a football game when you’re -4 in the turnover ratio in the first half. You CAN win in this scenario if you are good at sacking the quarterback because it takes the opponent out of field goal position and creates turnovers for yourself.

- The key to this team IMHO is to get them playing aggressively. When they play aggressive, for some reason or another, they execute better and make less mental mistakes.

- I’m not going to bash Sean Payton too much. Without Julius our running game and passing game takes a hit. Nobody mentions this, but Julius is actually an excellent blocker. A-Train is decent at blocking, and the rookies are too inconsistent. Thus, they had to be conservative with their passing game, which I understand. It also didn’t help that the Giants looked well coached on defense and disguise their blitz well. That being said, once again Payton gets predictable and conservative in the red zone. I honestly thought I was watching the Commanders game again.

- I see a coward like Bill Romonowski cry on 60 Minutes and I just beam with joy thinking about the 1992 NFC Championship game. For one, it was the stepping stone to 3 Cowboys Super Bowls. But just as important for me, Moose Johnston kicked his arse up and down the field for the entire game.

- I dunno, but if I was an opposing O-Coordinator I might try the no huddle shotgun against Dallas for stretches in the game.

- I’ll say this, Al Johnson had a bad 1st quarter or so. After that he looked fine to me.

- I see why Drew has the tendency to come up short on passing plays late in the game. It’s because he’s so conscious of being sacked, he throws off his back foot to get rid of the ball quicker. Thus, he loses the velocity to get it to the receiver.

- Give our CB’s a lot of credit. Newman has been All-World so far. Henry may have played better than Newman today (4 passes defensed, 1 INT, almost had another INT) and Glenn is solid. The defense still doesn’t disguise the blitz as well as I would like, but the scheme is confusing opposing QB’s and when it doesn’t, the CB’s seem to have great coverage.

- Give Zimmer some credit, the CB’s did not bite once on the Giants WR double moves.

- I don’t like Cortez as a kicker. In fact, I’m SHOCKED he made that 45 yarder. But, what keeps him in the NFL is that he is a good/great kickoff guy. Out of all of the games I’ve charted so far, he’s yet to lose the kickoff battle to an opposing kicker/punter. (I *think* Janikowski would’ve beaten him, but there was a strong wind and both guys were booting them into the end zone with ease).

Anyway, today his kicks were pretty deep, had nice hangtime, and were angled towards the sideline and gave the best kick returner in the league fits.

- The long snapper had another nice day, only one snap was mediocre and that was on a punt (tad low). Good job by the scouting dept. on finding this guy so quickly.

- I’d like for those who say Roy is overrated to look at his stats and look at the fumble he forced at the one foot line. Do us all a favor and never talk about football again.

- That being said, watching the Cowboys on their own 1, I couldn’t help but think about “All the Right Moves” and then worrying about Keith Davis getting drunk and trashing Parcells’ house after the game with a bunch of locals.

- I wasn’t very high on Marion Barber until this game. I think he’ll be an okay starter, but a good 3rd down back. Reminds me a bit of Duce Staley.

- How ‘bout them NFC East LEADERS Dallas Cowboys!


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Rich,

Nice job...and the stat about the sacks was right on. We really need to cut down the sacks if we want to consistently will this year. The O-Line needs to tighten up on the sacks allowed and the dumb holding and off sides penalties....
 

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Yakuza Rich said:
- I’m not so sure how much the Crayton injury will impact the team this year. Granted, he’s a good player and makes for another tough possession receiver. But, that could have us focus on Witten more and I like Witten catching passes more than Crayton. The problem is that Price isn’t really a possession receiver and if they feature Witten more, that takes him out of the pass protection. Perhaps they could use Pierce and Campbell as extra blockers and line up Witten out wide where Crayton usually plays. I have no idea what they are going to do at punt returner.

- 20 sacks through 6 games. That’s on pace for 53.3 sacks this year. You want to know why sacks are the greatest correlation to winning in the NFL? Because they lose yards for the offense and in this case, help force turnovers. You typically don’t win a football game when you’re -4 in the turnover ratio in the first half. You CAN win in this scenario if you are good at sacking the quarterback because it takes the opponent out of field goal position and creates turnovers for yourself.

- The key to this team IMHO is to get them playing aggressively. When they play aggressive, for some reason or another, they execute better and make less mental mistakes.

- I’m not going to bash Sean Payton too much. Without Julius our running game and passing game takes a hit. Nobody mentions this, but Julius is actually an excellent blocker. A-Train is decent at blocking, and the rookies are too inconsistent. Thus, they had to be conservative with their passing game, which I understand. It also didn’t help that the Giants looked well coached on defense and disguise their blitz well. That being said, once again Payton gets predictable and conservative in the red zone. I honestly thought I was watching the Commanders game again.

- I see a coward like Bill Romonowski cry on 60 Minutes and I just beam with joy thinking about the 1992 NFC Championship game. For one, it was the stepping stone to 3 Cowboys Super Bowls. But just as important for me, Moose Johnston kicked his arse up and down the field for the entire game.

- I dunno, but if I was an opposing O-Coordinator I might try the no huddle shotgun against Dallas for stretches in the game.

- I’ll say this, Al Johnson had a bad 1st quarter or so. After that he looked fine to me.

- I see why Drew has the tendency to come up short on passing plays late in the game. It’s because he’s so conscious of being sacked, he throws off his back foot to get rid of the ball quicker. Thus, he loses the velocity to get it to the receiver.

- Give our CB’s a lot of credit. Newman has been All-World so far. Henry may have played better than Newman today (4 passes defensed, 1 INT, almost had another INT) and Glenn is solid. The defense still doesn’t disguise the blitz as well as I would like, but the scheme is confusing opposing QB’s and when it doesn’t, the CB’s seem to have great coverage.

- Give Zimmer some credit, the CB’s did not bite once on the Giants WR double moves.

- I don’t like Cortez as a kicker. In fact, I’m SHOCKED he made that 45 yarder. But, what keeps him in the NFL is that he is a good/great kickoff guy. Out of all of the games I’ve charted so far, he’s yet to lose the kickoff battle to an opposing kicker/punter. (I *think* Janikowski would’ve beaten him, but there was a strong wind and both guys were booting them into the end zone with ease).

Anyway, today his kicks were pretty deep, had nice hangtime, and were angled towards the sideline and gave the best kick returner in the league fits.

- The long snapper had another nice day, only one snap was mediocre and that was on a punt (tad low). Good job by the scouting dept. on finding this guy so quickly.

- I’d like for those who say Roy is overrated to look at his stats and look at the fumble he forced at the one foot line. Do us all a favor and never talk about football again.

- That being said, watching the Cowboys on their own 1, I couldn’t help but think about “All the Right Moves” and then worrying about Keith Davis getting drunk and trashing Parcells’ house after the game with a bunch of locals.

- I wasn’t very high on Marion Barber until this game. I think he’ll be an okay starter, but a good 3rd down back. Reminds me a bit of Duce Staley.

- How ‘bout them NFC East LEADERS Dallas Cowboys!


Rich……..

agree on most, but totally disagree about sacks being the most important stat in corelation to winning, in fact its a totally meaningless stat...more important than the sacks are consistent pressures and WHEN you get the sacks...I'd rather get my sacks on 3rd and 10 than 1st and 10...I'd rather get my sacks when it knocks teams out of fg range...I'd rather get my sacks in key moments late in the game with the game still in question, instead of a 1st qtr sack on 1st and 10

also disagree about Al Johnson, he was bad all game...The Witten TD was negated by a phantom holding call and that was the 2nd half, had Johnson not been trampled over (literally) he wouldnt have got the call...his run blocking was poor again as well, although he isnt alone in that dept

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The strange thing is that sacks ALLOWED do not have the same correlation to winning as sacks EARNED.

Mostly that's because scrambling QB's tend to get sacked more, but they still can be effective.

Right now we are on pace to give up 34.6 sacks this year. Which is less than last season. The BIG thing is that we have been pretty good, if not excellent, at protecting Bledsoe on 3rd and long.


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but totally disagree about sacks being the most important stat in corelation to winning, in fact its a totally meaningless stat...

It's a statistical fact. Teams that sack the QB more typically have higher winning percentages. Teams that have less sacks, typically don't win as much.

It has a stronger correlation to winning than turnover margin. It's not something I just made up.

In fact, teams that have finished in the top 10 in sacks in each of the last 5 years have an average winning percentage of .635.

Teams in the bottom 10 in sacks in each of the last 5 years have an average winning percentage of .385.

I'd rather get my sacks on 3rd and 10 than 1st and 10...I'd rather get my sacks when it knocks teams out of fg range...I'd rather get my sacks in key moments late in the game with the game still in question, instead of a 1st qtr sack on 1st and 10

So would I. But, if you're a team that has a lot of sacks throughout the year, chances are you are going to have them at important points of the game. That's why teams that sack the QB a lot typically have strong winning percentages.

also disagree about Al Johnson, he was bad all game...The Witten TD was negated by a phantom holding call and that was the 2nd half, had Johnson not been trampled over (literally) he wouldnt have got the call...his run blocking was poor again as well, although he isnt alone in that dept

According to Johnson, he was stepped on by Nick Griesen which is why he was bulled over. He didn't seem all that hot to me in the first quarter and I'm convinced he short armed that fumbled snap.

The run blocking isn't great by any means, but it's not like I expected a 150 yard day from the A-Train either.


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- That being said, watching the Cowboys on their own 1, I couldn’t help but think about “All the Right Moves” and then worrying about Keith Davis getting drunk and trashing Parcells’ house after the game with a bunch of locals.

I saw the movie years ago, but please explain this reference a bit more. Davis went flying over the top and missed the runner before Roy stripped him.
 

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I think its relative where Roy is concerned. If somebody said Roy was the best safety in football, I'd have to say that he's overated. If somebody said Roy was one of the top safeties in football, so long as he's not covering all over the field, I'd agree. There are degrees to everything.
 

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yakuza rich said:
- I’m not so sure how much the Crayton injury will impact the team this year. Granted, he’s a good player and makes for another tough possession receiver. But, that could have us focus on Witten more and I like Witten catching passes more than Crayton. The problem is that Price isn’t really a possession receiver and if they feature Witten more, that takes him out of the pass protection. Perhaps they could use Pierce and Campbell as extra blockers and line up Witten out wide where Crayton usually plays. I have no idea what they are going to do at punt returner.

The main problem I have with the Crayton issue is the old "If it aint broke, dont fix it"

Crayton has developed into a very handy receiver especially on third down. If you notice on alot of catches, Crayton is not even open, but he is developing a reputation like Keyshawn Johnson, just throw it near his vicinity and he makes the grab.

I dont know much about Peerless Price, but I doubt most athletes can come into a Game and have sudden impact after not playing for a while.

yakuza rich said:
- 20 sacks through 6 games. That’s on pace for 53.3 sacks this year. You want to know why sacks are the greatest correlation to winning in the NFL? Because they lose yards for the offense and in this case, help force turnovers. You typically don’t win a football game when you’re -4 in the turnover ratio in the first half. You CAN win in this scenario if you are good at sacking the quarterback because it takes the opponent out of field goal position and creates turnovers for yourself.

I agree somewhat. I think the more important thing is when those sacks come. For a minute, most of Ware's sack seem to come early in the game, and I dont think that does much for you if it does not come in crucial times in the ball game. I am extremely concerned about the Defensive Playcalling in the 4th Quarter. Very lax and laid back and we tend to go on the defensive instead of sticking with the defense that put us in a position to win.


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The key to this team IMHO is to get them playing aggressively. When they play aggressive, for some reason or another, they execute better and make less mental mistakes.

Yes sir. I have felt that Parcells has been playing this club like it is the 2003 squad, which was devoid of alot of talent. We have been aggresive for the last 2 games but we need to stay aggressive on defense the entire time unless we have a really comfortable lead (3 Touchdowns).

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- I dunno, but if I was an opposing O-Coordinator I might try the no huddle shotgun against Dallas for stretches in the game.

Not sure about that. What I cant figure out is why they give up yards on hurry up. Okay, is it the Defensive Captain constantly calling very basic defensive that everyone knows because of the HURRY UP, or is it because Zimmer seems to want to call very LAX defenses in the 4th Quarter.

This weak/soft Cover 2 or drop back zone coverages late in the 4th Quarter must come to an end or it will be the death of us.

- Mike G.
 

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A-train is done, needs to join Eddie George at the Hot Dog stand, Roy Williams sucked on that play to Shockey but then again so did their secondary on plays with Witten, the real problem is that the o only got 13 points which won't win too many games, thought Bledsoe was just off a lot today on many throws, they were either short hoppers or he hurried or whatever, however his ability to not throw picks is what keeps the bus moving if not going very fast. Also Ware is the real deal, when he gets a year or so under his belt he will be the next great pass rusher in the NFL.Winning ugly is better than not winning, we're as good as we could have hoped at this point in the season. The best draft pick we have made in the last five years was the one we gave up for Terry Glenn, say what you will that guy is the Dallas passing game, even Michael Irvin admitted he's a number one receiver..
 

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tuna-salad said:
- That being said, watching the Cowboys on their own 1, I couldn’t help but think about “All the Right Moves” and then worrying about Keith Davis getting drunk and trashing Parcells’ house after the game with a bunch of locals.

I saw the movie years ago, but please explain this reference a bit more. Davis went flying over the top and missed the runner before Roy stripped him.

The Tom Cruise character was a defensive back. Davis didn't do anything wrong, I just wanted to use him as the Tom Cruise character.

If Dallas had a famous overweight fan with a chia pet hair cut, I would've had my replacement for Bosko.

"You threw trash on me, my wife, and my little girl."-coach Nickerson

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ABQCOWBOY said:
I think its relative where Roy is concerned. If somebody said Roy was the best safety in football, I'd have to say that he's overated. If somebody said Roy was one of the top safeties in football, so long as he's not covering all over the field, I'd agree. There are degrees to everything.

Right now he's playing better than any safety in the league. Ed Reed hasn't done jack this year, Harrison is on I-R, and Dawkins hasn't done much either. His coverage has been good if anything. The problem is that analysts/announcers/experts blame him for bad coverage when he's not even supposed to be covering the guy.

Sure, he has his weaknesses in coverage. He doesn't have Reed or Taylor's range, but he's still been very good this year.

Rich......
 

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Yakuza Rich said:
- I’m not so sure how much the Crayton injury will impact the team this year. Granted, he’s a good player and makes for another tough possession receiver. But, that could have us focus on Witten more and I like Witten catching passes more than Crayton.

I love Witten. He's an impossible matchup with superb hands. But I can't say I like him catching the ball more than Crayton. If Crayton's touching it he's catching it, and all he does is convert third downs.

- Nobody mentions this, but Julius is actually an excellent blocker.

Yep. He was the difference between three sacks this week and none last.

- Henry may have played better than Newman today

That's only because he got to actually defend some passes. Teams just don't throw at Newman.

- I don’t like Cortez as a kicker. In fact, I’m SHOCKED he made that 45 yarder. But, what keeps him in the NFL is that he is a good/great kickoff guy.

They showed a graphic just before the OT kick. Despite the strength of his leg, Cortez is 48% between 40 and 49 yards. His kickoffs are almost (ALMOST) worth the inconsistency. It may seem like a small thing but the difference between a kick fielded three yards deep instead of the five or ten is huge.

- I’d like for those who say Roy is overrated to look at his stats and look at the fumble he forced at the one foot line. Do us all a favor and never talk about football again.

Amen. Thank you. Good night.
 

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Yakuza Rich said:
Right now he's playing better than any safety in the league. Ed Reed hasn't done jack this year, Harrison is on I-R, and Dawkins hasn't done much either. His coverage has been good if anything. The problem is that analysts/announcers/experts blame him for bad coverage when he's not even supposed to be covering the guy.

Sure, he has his weaknesses in coverage. He doesn't have Reed or Taylor's range, but he's still been very good this year.

Rich......


If you break down all these players, I think I'd give the node to Dawkins. I think Reed and Taylor are both better in coverage but there's no question, Roy is better the closer to the line he plays. In fact, I'd say that there is no comparison in this regard, amoung those three. The problem though, is that you can do the same to Roy in coverage and make the same point. We will have to see how the rest of the season unfolds. There are some young safeties out there thou that are going to be pretty good. We will see what the rest of the season holds.
 
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