My Pre Sunday thoughts

[LatinMind]

I continually fail to understand why it is people rush out to label or grade players, squads, or the team after one game

Well why come into a thread like this? Serves no purpose

 

[JoeyBoy718]

NO Dallas drafted scared because they didnt see any more RDE types after Lawrence and were scared of atlanta picking him.

I didn't know too much about Lawrence before the draft. I know Clowney was the consensus top RDE but we had no chance of getting him. Khalil Mack was more of a 3-4 OLB. Barr was more of a project than anything. Dee Ford was more of a situational guy. Outside of Clowney, the only ideal RDEs were 2nd round talents. And Lawrence was one of those guys. I didn't have too much of a problem with the pick. I would have preferred getting a guy like Attachou and keeping our 3rd, but they clearly liked Lawrence better than any other RDE candidates.

 

[Zordon]

TW needs to do a better job of catching balls in traffic. At times he still looks like a Baylor system WR.

 

[LatinMind]

The 49ers were up 28-3, they were conservative and just ran the ball. You will see our defense get torched this week Jake Locker is a must start in fantasy.

Niners went up 28-3 in the 2nd quarter. Whats more of a problem for you the Niners letting up on the defense? Or them not being scared of the offense making a comeback to be able to let up? The niners didnt start run heavy until late in the 4th. thats when we saw the drive of run only. Its incredibly naive for fans to say a team let up in the 2nd quarter.

First drive of the 2nd half.
2 passes 1 run punt

2nd
6 pass 4 rush with INT by durant that was overuled on challenge by Garrett

3rd
4pass 4 run punt

in the 4th quarter

This is where SF stops passing to run time off the clock with 9 mins left

6runs no pass missed FG

Dallas gets the ball back and scores 28-17 with just under 4 mins left.

Niners run out the clock.

I dont get where people say all this garbage about the niners playing conservative. Kap just didnt have much time to get in offensive flow. Dallas had the ball for large chunks of time the whole game. It just happens that Romo gave away the middle of the game with his turnovers.

 

[Zordon]

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Let me jump around a little.

I agree with you about Crawford, Wilcox and Claiborne. I've been critical of the Crawford praise since the beginning. He's never healthy and when he is, he does nothing impressive. Yet all I hear is praise from players, coaches and fans. And I agree about Wilcox. I'd take Church all day over Wilcox because he does everything Wilcox does but a little bit better and he's the most consistent player on the defense. And Claiborne is most likely an epic bust. The said thing is, these three guys are some of our highest drafted defensive players in the past 3-4 years. If you look at rosters, there's usually a completely overhaul every 4 years. Only a handful of guys stick beyond that rookie contract. Great teams have done great drafting in the past 4 years. Our defensive drafting in the past 4 years has been awful, while our offensive drafting has been so on the money. It's said when your best defensive players are middle of the road free agents like Mincey, Hayden and Melton.

I'm a big fan of the potential the LB corps has. Carter, McClain and Lee are relatively young. I think our goal this year should be to find solid young depth behind those young guys. Icing on the cake for the Lee injury is that it allowed us to potentially find our MLB of the future and allowed us to get a look at some young talent who otherwise wouldn't have gotten the snaps. And yea, Durant is definitely done after this year.

Regarding the strength of the interior OL, I totally agree, but that also shows the biggest problem of this team. I mentioned before that most rosters have a complete overhaul every 4 years. A few years ago, we had the nastiest 3-4 outside pass rushers in the league. We also had the most pathetic interior OL in the league. Now, we have the opposite problem. It seems to be a trend. We spend a few years turning a weakness into a strength, and when that finally happens, a previous strength turns into a weakness. It's like patching holes in a sinking ship only to have another hole pop up.

Sorry can't see us resigning Carter no matter what.

 

[Zordon]

I'm losing hope in Wilcox. I just have to keep reminding myself he was a project from the jump. I'm willing to give him another year.

Can't tell u what I'd give to have an Earl Thomas at FS. Secondary let down the dline on Sunday.

 

[CCBoy]

I understand the starting point, and there is a direction. I just don't agree with the snapshot of the team here.

I think Dallas wins by 10 in Nashville.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I understand the starting point, and there is a direction. I just don't agree with the snapshot of the team here.

I think Dallas wins by 10 in Nashville.

Here's some rumple in a shot glass near the burn barrel to hoping you are correct. I really hope they turn this thing around.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Well why come into a thread like this? Serves no purpose

Because we have to pass the bill to see what's in it. Or something like that.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Sorry can't see us resigning Carter no matter what.

If he comes on the cheap. Depends on his ego. He didn't earn a big money contract, but if he accepts that he's nothing more than a solid SLB (not a high priority position) then maybe he'll accept a smaller paycheck. Sort of like what happened with Free. But all in all, we'll get by without an elite SLB. You need a great MLB and WLB in this defense. Carter is neither.

 

[CCBoy]

If he comes on the cheap. Depends on his ego. He didn't earn a big money contract, but if he accepts that he's nothing more than a solid SLB (not a high priority position) then maybe he'll accept a smaller paycheck. Sort of like what happened with Free. But all in all, we'll get by without an elite SLB. You need a great MLB and WLB in this defense. Carter is neither.

Great 4-3 defenses always have a good trio of linebackers. In today's NFL, they need quality backups as well.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Great 4-3 defenses always have a good trio of linebackers. In today's NFL, they need quality backups as well.

Yeah but you don't break the bank on a SLB like you may for a MLB or WLB. Like how you don't break the bank on RG.

 

[CCBoy]

Yeah but you don't break the bank on a SLB like you may for a MLB or WLB. Like how you don't break the bank on RG.

Depends on the player. There is still merit in Carter for now.

Right now, the money is in the secondary. There is the pending deal that will go to both Dez Bryant and Demarco Murray. Carter will know his value when the subject is approached later.

As to right guard, Martin was paid for dearly as a 'rook.'

 

[morasp]

I like Crawford he had a good play when he got Kaepernack's arm on a pass and he was stout against the run.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Depends on the player. There is still merit in Carter for now.

Right now, the money is in the secondary. There is the pending deal that will go to both Dez Bryant and Demarco Murray. Carter will know his value when the subject is approached later.

As to right guard, Martin was paid for dearly as a 'rook.'

He was paid for dearly as a rook. I'm not saying it was a bad investment. I'm just saying I'm not sure if it's ideal. Now, if he's moved to RT. We tend to address areas in clusters. A few years ago we invested heavily in the secondary. That didn't pan out. More recently we've invested heavily in the O-line. That seems to be working out but we haven't had to pay any of them yet. I'd prefer to have money in all areas. A high paid/high drafted QB, one CB, one safety, a pass rusher, a DT, a LT, another OL, etc.

 

[Denim Chicken]

crawfords problem is that he has no idea what do with his hands and thats huge problem for a DE.

 

[CCBoy]

He was paid for dearly as a rook. I'm not saying it was a bad investment. I'm just saying I'm not sure if it's ideal. Now, if he's moved to RT. We tend to address areas in clusters. A few years ago we invested heavily in the secondary. That didn't pan out. More recently we've invested heavily in the O-line. That seems to be working out but we haven't had to pay any of them yet. I'd prefer to have money in all areas. A high paid/high drafted QB, one CB, one safety, a pass rusher, a DT, a LT, another OL, etc.

On the secondary, there isn't a valid scale as to worth yet...the last season and now, has seen an unstable defensive front. Just like a quarterback being unable to complete a pass while on his back, a secondary who has to defend for up to eight seconds is hung out to dry as well.

The current onus is on Rob Marinelli and Jason Garrett for the overall successes of the defense and offense. If the offense falters, Jason could well be gone. The defense, is only in year two as to changing from a 3-4 defense. That usually takes a time line of four years.

Grab some patience here...

 

[JoeyBoy718]

On the secondary, there isn't a valid scale as to worth yet...the last season and now, has seen an unstable defensive front. Just like a quarterback being unable to complete a pass while on his back, a secondary who has to defend for up to eight seconds is hung out to dry as well.

The current onus is on Rob Marinelli and Jason Garrett for the overall successes of the defense and offense. If the offense falters, Jason could well be gone. The defense, is only in year two as to changing from a 3-4 defense. That usually takes a time line of four years.

Grab some patience here...

I agree a good front 7 makes the secondary look good, but I just don't trust our secondary. Going back to Sunday, our D-line and LBers actually looked good but the secondary looked awful. Going even further back to when we had an elite front 7 (Ware, Rat, Spence in their primes) our secondary always prevented us from being an elite overall defense.

 

[waving monkey]

thanks Latin always appreciate your write ups ,good stuff