My Surprise Cuts...

[TheCount]

Where in this thread are the surprise cuts going to be listed?

The thread started with a rank-and-file list of the cuts that have been talked about and postulated for weeks now, and I expected the thread (based on the thread title) to move on to some surprises. I'm really eager to read them! Did I just miss them or did they get deleted somehow?

So your complaint is that the OP isn't surprising enough? :laugh2:

 

[cowboys2233]

Not for nothing, but it is Keith Brooking . . .I see people on this board constantly using Brookings . . .just wanted to throw it out there is all . . .

Who cares? Pretty soon he's going to be called "former player of the Dallas Cowboys." That's the name I'm most excited about. Why am I so hard on poor Keith? He's a nice enough guy by all accounts, plays with a lot of passion and gets the team revved up before games.

Oh yeah, he sucks.

 

[burmafrd]

Kitna stays since he showed that if Romo is only out for a couple of games he can keep us competitive and he is signed through 2013.

Brooking is a little questionable but possible. the rest would not surprise me.

There are only a couple of teams that have more talent then we do; and the edge is not huge. Green Bay has the biggest edge since they have a lot of depth that no one else does.

But to say we cannot contend for the SB is to have the dunce cap on.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Kitna stays since he showed that if Romo is only out for a couple of games he can keep us competitive and he is signed through 2013.

Brooking is a little questionable but possible. the rest would not surprise me.

There are only a couple of teams that have more talent then we do; and the edge is not huge. Green Bay has the biggest edge since they have a lot of depth that no one else does.

But to say we cannot contend for the SB is to have the dunce cap on.

only a couple of team with more talent than us? name them. you seriously overvalue and overrate the talent on this team. but that's typical of some cowboy fans

I can think of 10-12 teams without even trying.

and we are not ready for superbowl. everyone starts 0-0, but if you think this team is ready for superbowl, then you are making the same mistake as last year. Jerry thought that team was ready. he planned for it to be there and he stopped doing the things that needed to be done.

I may have mis-stated when I said not competing. this team will compete. but you must also be realistic in your expectations. I don't expect this team to make it to the superbowl. I don't expect this team to make a run in the playoffs.

reaching the playoffs, will meet or slightly exceed my expectations. that's reality.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

I didn't mean it to come across that we are giving up on the year,.

but this team as it stands right now is not ready to compete for superbowl. making it to the playoffs would be a great accomplishment.

so do you want to keep around a bunch of veterans that are back ups and probably won't be here next year. as opposed to keeping some young talented players that need development?

I disagree. This team definitely has the necessary talent to compete for a title. Elite QB, solid recievers, decent run game, good coaching, superstar defender and we do have talent on defense. I really do believe under Ryan the Cowboys will be an elite defense once again. Our offensive line isn't very good, but neither was the Packers and they still won the superbowl.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

I think there will be some surprise cuts this season.

Brandon Williams - like most have said, you haven’t heard his name at all and that's not good.
Holland - hurt, fat, out of shape. cowboys will roll the dice with Arkin or bring in waters.
McCray - too many safties he is competing with.
Holley - couple of the young kids are showing him up, like Radway and his ceiling is not high.
Brookings (oh my)…… with lee tearing it up in camp, cowboys, may roll the dice with young LBs and wait for carter to start playing….we are not going to compete this year. so what does brookings bring to the table, in the last year of his contract. Ryan will employ butler in 3rd downs a lot. brookings makes too much for a back up.


Kitna - it all depends on How McGee does in preseason. without Romo we are doomed anyway. again, we are not competing this year. Kitna will be gone next year. so why keep him over a younger player that we could keep and develop.

Choice: we will try to trade him. perhaps get a conditional 7th rounder or 6th rounder at most. Miller has been tearing it up in camp. can catch and has been excellent in picking up blitzes against Ryan's complicated defense. his ceiling is much much higher than Choice. but I doubt, seriously doubt if anyone is going to pay anything for him. what we know. they know. we know he is average and lacks in certain areas. so other teams know the same.

igor, will be traded to the texans for a 4th or 5th round pick. Wade loves him and needs him. with Coleman, Spears, hatcher, lessimore, rat, brent and couple of other young prospects we are set at DL. He won’t be around next year anyway. we are not competing this year. so why keep him?

AOA, I am not sure if we are ready to give up on AOA. he is struggling. but that’s to be expected. they may, may move him to CB. he is got athletic talent. he is a hard worker. tackles pretty good. his game is not at saftey, where he has to make too many decisions (like ball). he maybe the big CB we are looking for.

Why would we cut all our depth? 3 RB's are better than 2. Kitna is a good backup, why would you cut him? Why wouldn't you keep all three TE's? I don't understand why everyone wants these players cut when they will give us depth and if we cut them they may go to another team that we see twice a year.

 

[arglebargle]

Another Frenchman waving the flag of surrender.:laugh2:

Always easier to say when you don't share a long border with Germany.

 

[RastaRocket]

Oookaaaay

I think he's been listening to Greggo too much today.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I disagree. This team definitely has the necessary talent to compete for a title. Elite QB, solid recievers, decent run game, good coaching, superstar defender and we do have talent on defense. I really do believe under Ryan the Cowboys will be an elite defense once again. Our offensive line isn't very good, but neither was the Packers and they still won the superbowl.

Romo is not elite.....but that's not the only thing necessary to win a championship.

our OL is a question mark.

but in the absence of missing some of the ingredients you mentioned, you have to be really strong in another one.......romo is not/has not played at the level of brady, manning, rodgers or brees. to say otherwise is fooling yourself.

so those teams can get away with being weak in another offensive area. we can't. packers OL was a question mark? well rodgers was playing out of this world. you can't deny that. he had been for a couple of years. Romo is good, but he hasn't shown he is elite at that level.

our depth is very questionable right now. packers had tremendous depth. Philly is the regining NFC east champion and they added some nice pieces.

giants are much like us. they are tough team.

our defensive secondary is weak, average to below average. the MLBs are average. yeah...Lee could be good. but he hasn't shown it yet. so ware is great. the DL is good not great. again, it takes a top level defense to make it to the top (except for the one year Indy went, but that's when you have the all time best QB playing for you).

we don't have an offense like indy, to allow us to get away with an average defense.

we don't have the makings of a top 5 defense. it takes a couple of years to go from one of the worst to a top defense and have everything fall in place.

do we have a chance? yes. is it as good as some of the other teams. nope. we are one of the many in the middle of the pack. to deny that is like an ostrich sticking its head in the ground to hide. if you think we are ready to compete then you stop progressing to where you need to be.

and yes. I know about the rams going from 5-11 to superbowl. yeah, anything can happen. that's exception and not the rule. good teams are built over time. they show they are good and they make a run or two.

like I said, right now

GB, Chicago, Tampa, Atlanta, Philly, Giants, Saints, one team from NFC west and dallas are all competing for 6 spots. all of those teams feel they improved themselves compared to last year. including dallas. they are all right. at this moment.


facts are, as everyone has outline, if everything pans out as they expect, we could make a run. reality is that often half of them don't.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why would we cut all our depth? 3 RB's are better than 2. Kitna is a good backup, why would you cut him? Why wouldn't you keep all three TE's? I don't understand why everyone wants these players cut when they will give us depth and if we cut them they may go to another team that we see twice a year.

I know Kitna is a good back up. but if the organization feels that McGee can be adequate then they might go with him. Kitna is nothing special. if Romo goes down, we are not going far with Kitna. so maybe we can keep a promising player over Kitna.

I didn't say cut any of the TEs.

I didn't say we are not keeping three RBs. I think Miller might over take Choice. Miller has a higher upside. he has shown a lot so far in camp. choice has holes in his game, that garrett and company don't like.

I don't want them cut.

I said, they may be surprise cuts. fan favorites on the roster bubble.

probably half will be on the roster, half get cut.

 

[Shinywalrus]

So your complaint is that the OP isn't surprising enough? :laugh2:

If you're going to claim "surprise", deliver surprise. Give the people what they want!

 

[cowboy_ron]

Kitna stays since he showed that if Romo is only out for a couple of games he can keep us competitive and he is signed through 2013.

Brooking is a little questionable but possible. the rest would not surprise me.

There are only a couple of teams that have more talent then we do; and the edge is not huge. Green Bay has the biggest edge since they have a lot of depth that no one else does.

But to say we cannot contend for the SB is to have the dunce cap on.

I would question Kitna like this..could we replace him for what he's brought to the team for the salary he makes..I don't think so I would think he's here this year

 

[TD-33]

Is there no way the Cowboys can just forfeit the season?
Any way to add Romo and Ware (only good player on the team) to the practice squad and play the 3rd teamers to keep the 2 or 3 1st team players (worth keeping) healthy until next year?
Surely Romo and Dez etc.. would cleaver waivers right TS?

 

[Ring Leader]

Romo is not elite.....but that's not the only thing necessary to win a championship.

our OL is a question mark.

but in the absence of missing some of the ingredients you mentioned, you have to be really strong in another one.......romo is not/has not played at the level of brady, manning, rodgers or brees. to say otherwise is fooling yourself.

so those teams can get away with being weak in another offensive area. we can't. packers OL was a question mark? well rodgers was playing out of this world. you can't deny that. he had been for a couple of years. Romo is good, but he hasn't shown he is elite at that level.

our depth is very questionable right now. packers had tremendous depth. Philly is the regining NFC east champion and they added some nice pieces.

giants are much like us. they are tough team.

our defensive secondary is weak, average to below average. the MLBs are average. yeah...Lee could be good. but he hasn't shown it yet. so ware is great. the DL is good not great. again, it takes a top level defense to make it to the top (except for the one year Indy went, but that's when you have the all time best QB playing for you).

we don't have an offense like indy, to allow us to get away with an average defense.

we don't have the makings of a top 5 defense. it takes a couple of years to go from one of the worst to a top defense and have everything fall in place.

do we have a chance? yes. is it as good as some of the other teams. nope. we are one of the many in the middle of the pack. to deny that is like an ostrich sticking its head in the ground to hide. if you think we are ready to compete then you stop progressing to where you need to be.

and yes. I know about the rams going from 5-11 to superbowl. yeah, anything can happen. that's exception and not the rule. good teams are built over time. they show they are good and they make a run or two.

like I said, right now

GB, Chicago, Tampa, Atlanta, Philly, Giants, Saints, one team from NFC west and dallas are all competing for 6 spots. all of those teams feel they improved themselves compared to last year. including dallas. they are all right. at this moment.


facts are, as everyone has outline, if everything pans out as they expect, we could make a run. reality is that often half of them don't.

I can see how living in DC might diminish your optimism in general. I'm sure negativity (Commanders football included) is rampant.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Is there no way the Cowboys can just forfeit the season?
Any way to add Romo and Ware (only good player on the team) to the practice squad and play the 3rd teamers to keep the 2 or 3 1st team players (worth keeping) healthy until next year?
Surely Romo and Dez etc.. would cleaver waivers right TS?

:laugh2:

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I can see how living in DC might diminish your optimism in general. I'm sure negativity (Commanders football included) is rampant.

actually I live in baltimore area now.

and in DC they are very down on their team. they raz on them all the time. they hate the cowboys, but they are also jealous (a little)

but I also don't live in Dallas area and don't drink the koolaid Jerry is dishing out everyday . Jerry is a saleman. he sells this team to no end. he is one of the best at it. he had dallas folks reserving superbowl tickets in the off season last year

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Is there no way the Cowboys can just forfeit the season?
Any way to add Romo and Ware (only good player on the team) to the practice squad and play the 3rd teamers to keep the 2 or 3 1st team players (worth keeping) healthy until next year?
Surely Romo and Dez etc.. would cleaver waivers right TS?

I am not giving up on the season. but I am also realistic. I don't buy superbowl tickets in preseason.

 

[Doomsday101]

I am not giving up on the season. but I am also realistic. I don't buy superbowl tickets in preseason.

Good to know. I never buy SB tickets in pre season either not even thinking in terms of SB right now. Hopefully the Cowboys are not thinking of Feb games in Aug. as they did last season as most people (not just fans) felt the Cowboys were a top team to challenge for the SB

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I may be wrong, but the over 30 guys on defense are Brookings (35), Coleman (32), Newman (32), B.James (30). Everyone else is under 30. If that's old, oh my.

 

[TD-33]

I am not giving up on the season. but I am also realistic. I don't buy superbowl tickets in preseason.

I'm not giving up either- necessarily... just don't want the couple of non-pathetic players Dallas has to get hurt.

Probably not practice squad eligible though.