Whose lying?!
Everyone acts differently in the heat of a moment. I truly believe that's what happened to Garrett when he was called the "N" word by Mason.
Speaking as someone who knows the rules, it was textbook roughing the QB to throw him to the ground the way he did.There was no flag on the play for a late hit because it wasn't late as YOU said Rudolph "felt" it was. But I showed you the video. It clearly wasn't late by the ref on the field. It's within the guidelines of a rule you probably don't even know. And if that's what you call "slammed" to the ground then maybe you're too used to flag football. That was as gentle a put down as you'll see in the NFL. Shoves are harder landings for QBs than that. The NFL piled on the unnecessary roughness fine, IMO which one could debate but no flag was going to be thrown on that play until Rudolph "objected." Video is powerless against agenda once again. I do try though, lol.
I don’t believe for a single second that Rudolph used the n-word. If he had, Garrett would have been telling us about it from day 1. He would have told his coaches. He would have told his teammates. He would have told the media.
Instead Garrett issued an apology the next day with absolutely no mention of the n-word being used. That accusation was only something he came up with several days later at the appeal.
It’s just not plausible that he was called the n-word and told no one on his team about it. That would’ve been the first thing he said in the locker room after the game.
There was no flag on the play for a late hit because it wasn't late as YOU said Rudolph "felt" it was. But I showed you the video. It clearly wasn't late by the ref on the field. It's within the guidelines of a rule you probably don't even know. And if that's what you call "slammed" to the ground then maybe you're too used to flag football. That was as gentle a put down as you'll see in the NFL. Shoves are harder landings for QBs than that. The NFL piled on the unnecessary roughness fine, IMO which one could debate but no flag was going to be thrown on that play until Rudolph "objected." Video is powerless against agenda once again. I do try though, lol.
Speaking as someone who knows the rules, it was textbook roughing the QB to throw him to the ground the way he did.
The fact that no flag was thrown is irrelevant given the piss poor level of officiating we have seen lately.
It doesn't matter if a flag was thrown. Penalties are missed all the time and then reviewed after.
It was clear cut roughing. He got fined. End of story. You were wrong. Don't turn this into a 3 page debate when the big man reviewed and saw it as roughing.
I don’t believe for a single second that Rudolph used the n-word. If he had, Garrett would have been telling us about it from day 1. He would have told his coaches. He would have told his teammates. He would have told the media.
Instead Garrett issued an apology the next day with absolutely no mention of the n-word being used. That accusation was only something he came up with several days later at the appeal.
It’s just not plausible that he was called the n-word and told no one on his team about it. That would’ve been the first thing he said in the locker room after the game.
Sure. Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11 (Roughing the Passer), Subsection (b) states:Textbook? Cite the rule.
No, I really am not doing a lot of assuming. It is not remotely plausible that he was called the n-word but didn't tell a single coach or a single teammate after the game.Wow, you know EXACTLY how someone would react and EXACTLY what someone would have done if called that slur? Have you had the EXACT experience a few times to know how the numbers shake out regarding reaction? That's a lot of assuming you're doing there.
Sure. Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11 (Roughing the Passer), Subsection (b) states:
A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation provided for in (a) above
Any impartial, intelligent viewing of the video of that play (which is available on YouTube) shows that while Garrett was within 1 step of the QB when the ball was thrown, he was clearly and obviously "stuffing" the QB, unnecessarily driving him down well after the ball was thrown.
No, I really am not doing a lot of assuming. It is not remotely plausible that he was called the n-word but didn't tell a single coach or a single teammate after the game.
Join us in the real world. If he really was called the n-word, he would have made damn sure his teammates and coaches knew it.
ALL THE CAPITAL LETTERS IN THE WORLD DON'T MAKE YOU SOUND ANY LESS SILLY DENYING WHAT THOSE OF US LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD KNOW.
I am saying what is not plausible. I know beyond any reasonable doubt (to intelligent people) it didn’t happen. Garrett’s story is not remotely plausible to any intelligent, thinking individual.So the answer to my question you didn't address is "no," right? Thanks for confirming you don't know.
If you have to go back 50 years to prove your point, then you have a very weak point.What if he did mention it to other players and/or coaches and they just didn't want to get dragged into something with those overtones? What "most of us in the real world" know is that people don't want to touch certain topics. Whether to speak up about it or others downplaying that it ever happens or has happened. Hell, it's a rule on this board for those very reasons. So isn't what I introduce here plausible? History lesson: Look up the hate mail Hank Aaron got when chasing Babe Ruth's record. All athletes get that kind of hate and threats. I'm absolutely sure Garrett got that kind of treatment after this. How many athletes do you hear talk about it? Exactly. So is it plausible that he wouldn't want things like that to get out knowing how it might be met? Look at this very thread.
I am saying what is not plausible. I know beyond any reasonable doubt (to intelligent people) it didn’t happen. Garrett’s story is not remotely plausible to any intelligent, thinking individual.
If you have to go back 50 years to prove your point, then you have a very weak point.
You look real silly suggesting Myles Garrett didn’t tell his own coaches he was called the n-word because he was thinking about what happened to Hank Aaron almost 50 years ago. The fact you have to stretch and reach so far to something so ridiculous shows how lame your contention is.
Not a single soul heard that slur. Not a single microphone picked it up. Even Garrett himself didn’t mention it to any of his teammates or coaches. Anyone with half a brain knows what’s going on here.
Sure. Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11 (Roughing the Passer), Subsection (b) states:
A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation provided for in (a) above
Any impartial, intelligent viewing of the video of that play (which is available on YouTube) shows that while Garrett was within 1 step of the QB when the ball was thrown, he was clearly and obviously "stuffing" the QB, unnecessarily driving him down well after the ball was thrown.