Myles Jack Checks in 6'1 245lbs with 33 5/8 Arms!

[Wood]

Jack probably went up little for me based on his interview. Just has athleticism oozing and sounds intelligent and student of game. March 15th is his pro day so we will see. But for me to take him #4 he has to be mad blitzer and contribute to pass rush. #4 is too early if he is just covering TE and tackling RBs.

 

[Wood]

Is it better to draft Rod Woodson or Ray Lewis? Not saying Jalen Ramsey or Jack will be that good, but is it better to pick up a potentially great CB (or S) or a potentially great every down MLB.

CB is the premium position historically, but a MLB is often your on-field coach/personality of/leader of the D.

Richard Sherman is really the only recent CB I can think of who's setting the tone for his a D.

S seems more likely to be the tone-setter than CB, even when they're not a superstar (Roy Williams, Rodney Harrison).

you wouldn't be utilizing Jack skill set at all at MLB. He needs to be roaming everywhere.

 

[IAmLegend]

Huh?

It was sarcasm. That's why the "don't get cute" part was in italics. Because the past couple months, a lot of posters on here were using the phrase "don't get cute" when it came to possibly trading down to accumulate picks, and then drafting Carson Wentz, instead of just drafting him at #4 overall.

 

[texbumthelife]

It was sarcasm. That's why the "don't get cute" part was in italics. Because the past couple months, a lot of posters on here were using the phrase "don't get cute" when it came to possibly trading down to accumulate picks, and then drafting Carson Wentz, instead of just drafting him at #4 overall.

What if my girlfriend already says I'm cute?

Oooh la la!

 

[hendog]

It was sarcasm. That's why the "don't get cute" part was in italics. Because the past couple months, a lot of posters on here were using the phrase "don't get cute" when it came to possibly trading down to accumulate picks, and then drafting Carson Wentz, instead of just drafting him at #4 overall.

Aha...gotcha! I should've picked up on that!

 

[Gaede]

I haven't been a big Jack fan, but if the guy has the intangibles to go along with the skills, then it's not a terrible idea.

Is he a Demarcus Ware or a Greg Ellis? Great player or a good one? Face of the franchise or long-term contributor?

I'm on board if Jack can play MLB and become a leader of the team. At 4, I'm looking for the biggest impact on the team--and leadership is a major plus for any potential pick

 

[TheFinisher]

Myles Jack is the best LB prospect to come out in over a decade IMO. Does everything you could possibly want at an ELITE level. Would have him graded higher than Willis/Keuchley.

Whoever lands this kid has their version of Ray Lewis/Derrick Brooks for the next 12 years. He's special.

If we're not going QB, then Jack is as slam dunk as it gets.

 

[Chuck 54]

Miles Jack had zero chance to be rated the #1 LB even this year before Jalen Smith was injured.

In my opinion, there is zero chance we pick Jack at #4. Possibly in a trade down.

DT and RB and even CB/WR run deep into 3rd and 4th rounds.

I still think it's Jalen Ramsey or DE.

 

[ghst187]

Jack may be the best player in this draft and honestly other than the knee issue I feel he is the safest pick we could make at 4. HOWEVER, if we take Jack at four with Wentz and/or Goff still on the board and one of them goes on to be a very good franchise QB, we will likely suffer in irrelevance for years again like we did in the post-Aikman era. Additionally, if winning now and making a safe pick is the key, I actually feel like a short trade down for an extra pick or two and picking RB Elliott would get us the biggest bang for our buck as far as instantly improving both our offense and our defense. So nothing against Jack, would love to have him, but man passing on a potential franchise QB or dynamic running back (in light of the opportunity our current OL presents) to get a linebacker, even a great one, will hurt.

 

[LittleD]

Best statistical odds and Jerry's interview lends itself to Bosa, Jack, or Ramsey at #4 unless we do the
trade down and then Elliott would be in play. I think the team has interviewed Prescott twice now and
they seem to have some genuine love for him. Perfect QB to sit behind Romo and learn for those 4 years.

 

[jterrell]

That is the first picture I have seen where he looks 245.
He looks absolutely yoked there.

 

[jterrell]

Jack may be the best player in this draft and honestly other than the knee issue I feel he is the safest pick we could make at 4. HOWEVER, if we take Jack at four with Wentz and/or Goff still on the board and one of them goes on to be a very good franchise QB, we will likely suffer in irrelevance for years again like we did in the post-Aikman era. Additionally, if winning now and making a safe pick is the key, I actually feel like a short trade down for an extra pick or two and picking RB Elliott would get us the biggest bang for our buck as far as instantly improving both our offense and our defense. So nothing against Jack, would love to have him, but man passing on a potential franchise QB or dynamic running back (in light of the opportunity our current OL presents) to get a linebacker, even a great one, will hurt.

Not sure I understand any of this line of thinking.
Jack is coming off a serious injury, couldn't work out at the combine and had pretty poor LB production in college.

He looks really good in his underwear but this isn't a runway.

Jack has off the chart measurables but we are drafting really high and this kid is a huge bust candidate when you combine injury and performance.
It's also pretty clear his best position is Will where we have Sean Lee.

It could turn out wonderfully with a lot of Pro Bowls but it also could fail badly. On UCLA tape he looks A LOT like Bruce Carter at UNC.

 

[jterrell]

Best statistical odds and Jerry's interview lends itself to Bosa, Jack, or Ramsey at #4 unless we do the
trade down and then Elliott would be in play. I think the team has interviewed Prescott twice now and
they seem to have some genuine love for him. Perfect QB to sit behind Romo and learn for those 4 years.

We are not trading down for Zeke or any RB in round 1. Not going to happen.

A RB upgrade would be "nice"; but you could give us the best 10 RB in football and we won't win 5 games unless we get better a lot of other spots. You can't run the ball behind by 20. Our 1st and 4th best DE are in free agency, our 3rd best is suspended. Our 2nd best CB is a likely cut who has refused contract renegotiation this far and our 3rd best CB is a free agent. Our best is returning from a year lay off and a major injury. We still consider JJ Wilcox a starting safety.
Our 2nd best LB is a free agent. Our starting NT is a free agent. --he kinda sucks but apparently not enough to get passed by anyone else we have.

So for the love of all that is holy please stop talking about RB.

 

[LittleD]

We are not trading down for Zeke or any RB in round 1. Not going to happen.

A RB upgrade would be "nice"; but you could give us the best 10 RB in football and we won't win 5 games unless we get better a lot of other spots. You can't run the ball behind by 20. Our 1st and 4th best DE are in free agency, our 3rd best is suspended. Our 2nd best CB is a likely cut who has refused contract renegotiation this far and our 3rd best CB is a free agent. Our best is returning from a year lay off and a major injury. We still consider JJ Wilcox a starting safety.
Our 2nd best LB is a free agent. Our starting NT is a free agent. --he kinda sucks but apparently not enough to get passed by anyone else we have.

So for the love of all that is holy please stop talking about RB.

If we do a trade down and I think he will be in the discussion at the table. You could very well be right that we will still go defense
if we trade down but, I think the QB is out until at least round 3. So for the love of all that is holy please stop talking about QB at #4.

 

[jterrell]

If we do a trade down and I think he will be in the discussion at the table. You could very well be right that we will still go defense
if we trade down but, I think the QB is out until at least round 3. So for the love of all that is holy please stop talking about QB at #4.

The team needs a QB. That may not take one but at least we know they value QBs.
What you are talking about isn't just unlikely, it isn't happening, period.
It's not even in the conversation. And it is pretty goofy to boot.

 

[LittleD]

The team needs a QB. That may not take one but at least we know they value QBs.
What you are talking about isn't just unlikely, it isn't happening, period.
It's not even in the conversation. And it is pretty goofy to boot.

Even if EE does not make the cut for selection on a trade down, I still think the Cowboys will select a RB in this draft at some point.
Jerry even said as much. What he did reference is that they will naturally do their due diligence on QB's in this draft, don't expect
that they will select one in round 1. He said that they need defense and he wasn't sure he could plug all the defensive line holes
with the draft. I do think in the end they will go defense early and often in this draft. They saw what Denver did and this is
a copycat league.

 

[dfense]

6'1? He is a freaking midget!

"That's pretty tall." -Dexter Coakley

 

[jterrell]

Even if EE does not make the cut for selection on a trade down, I still think the Cowboys will select a RB in this draft at some point.
Jerry even said as much. What he did reference is that they will naturally do their due diligence on QB's in this draft, don't expect
that they will select one in round 1. He said that they need defense and he wasn't sure he could plug all the defensive line holes
with the draft. I do think in the end they will go defense early and often in this draft. They saw what Denver did and this is
a copycat league.

I suspect they'd love a back in this draft.
But they aren't going to get one that costs them what they offered Demarco Murray after he led the league in rushing.

At RB they want someone to be part of a committee then eventually be the leader of that committee.
They'd like to pay ALL the RB about 6-7m a year total.

At QB they are looking for one guy who can take all the snaps for the next decade after Romo retires. A guy they'd willingly pay 200 million dollars.

That is the difference int he two positions and why QB is reasonable to discuss at 4 but RB is not.

Could Dallas trade down far enough to draft a back? Of course.
Will they? Only if Larry Lacewell is back in charge of personnel and drafting a bunch of back up and special teamers is back in vogue.

This high you want a rare value at a rare position. Something you likely can't duplicate without a top 5 pick.
That means LT(we have 1), CB, WR(we have one), Pass Rusher, QB(we have one but he is on his last legs) --some teams put MLB here, many do not.

At 4 those are the only positions I consider.

Filling holes is about managing draft picks and free agency. RB is arguably the easiest position to fill in free agency. ESPECIALLY for Dallas. No free agent dollar stretches further in the entire league than RB in Dallas except maybe WR in NE. Using your top resource there is just very, very, very bad team mgmt.

 

[manster4ever]

I haven't been a big Jack fan, but if the guy has the intangibles to go along with the skills, then it's not a terrible idea.

Is he a Demarcus Ware or a Greg Ellis? Great player or a good one? Face of the franchise or long-term contributor?

I'm on board if Jack can play MLB and become a leader of the team. At 4, I'm looking for the biggest impact on the team--and leadership is a major plus for any potential pick

Good post. I have not been on board and I'm still not sold. Sure he looks and sounds great but a LB at 4? He better be similar to the kid the Raiders took (Mack) if he goes that high. I don't see him being that much of an impact player but I've been wrong before.

 

[Rogerthat12]

That is the first picture I have seen where he looks 245.
He looks absolutely yoked there.

Funny how the eye test perception changes after the official weight is given!

This is your lesson, unless you actually know a players actual weight, you do not know Jack..LOL!