Nate Tice's Top 10 QB Rankings

These news people or whatever are SO DUMB, if they say Dak is #1 , all posts in here from certain Dak lovers would be filled with love instead of, this person who made this video is a MORON LOL!

Love truly CZ members
 
How the heck Justin Herbert keeps ending up on these lists is beyond me. :rolleyes: Matt Stafford hasn’t done anything the past three seasons. He’s only four games over 500 the past three seasons and his numbers are some of the weakest of his career. This list is one of the most ridiculous I’ve seen yet.
You cold shoulder these QBs but are OK with Dak as top 10?
 
You cold shoulder these QBs but are OK with Dak as top 10?
He certainly wasn’t top 10 last season but overall he’s been a top 10 QB. These other guys like Herbert and Lawrence haven’t accomplished what Dak has. It’s a complete joke they’re in the top 10, but the guy who compiled the list is an idiot. Jalen Hurts should be on the list ahead of some of those QBs including Dak.
 
You cold shoulder these QBs but are OK with Dak as top 10?
Yeah….I hear you. Do I think Dak is top 10? Well, he was at one point, but it would be kind of foolish to put him there at this time. Maybe not silly next year if he shows he’s recovered and back, but now…no.

But it’s also silly to put Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, or Love in the top ten. Hurts certainly had earned his spot there…wherever (depends on who you ask). But if he’s not there, it’s a faulty list.
 
so have you changed your diaper in the last few weeks?
I go commando...
well, I do live in the mountains...
Makes if easier to meet with the cult leader and throw darts at Dak posters. Go Cowboys!
In all seriousness, must be nice to live in the mountains, other than the banjo playing in the background, it must be relaxing.
 
He certainly wasn’t top 10 last season but overall he’s been a top 10 QB. These other guys like Herbert and Lawrence haven’t accomplished what Dak has. It’s a complete joke they’re in the top 10, but the guy who compiled the list is an idiot. Jalen Hurts should be on the list ahead of some of those QBs including Dak.
I did not notice Hurts missing!
Tha is crazy!
Hurts>Dak.
 
So No Goff or Daniels yet Lawrence is on the list? I will argue Hurts deserves to be on his play last year, but I'd also argue Stroud regressed and shouldn't be on the list. I will argue that Dak should stay on for now, given his 1 bad year.

Who is the turd doing the rankings anyhow?
 
I did not notice Hurts missing!
Tha is crazy!
Hurts>Dak.
I’m open to a list that doesn’t have Jalen in the top 10. There’s a lot of grey area after the first 4, and you could rearrange 9 guys for those 6 spots

But their argument was Jalen threw the 22nd most passes, so he ended up with non-top 10 yards and tds. That means he’s not top 10, regardless of playoff performance and efficiency stats (highest completion above expected in the NFL in 2024). So are you saying if Josh Allen went to Philly, and they said, “Hey we’re just gonna run Saquon for 2000 yards, don’t worry about throwing it,” he is no longer a top 10 QB in the NFL? That is the argument?

I’m open to a coherent argument against putting Jalen there. But you gotta have some rationality to it
 
Yeah….I hear you. Do I think Dak is top 10? Well, he was at one point, but it would be kind of foolish to put him there at this time. Maybe not silly next year if he shows he’s recovered and back, but now…no.

But it’s also silly to put Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, or Love in the top ten. Hurts certainly had earned his spot there…wherever (depends on who you ask). But if he’s not there, it’s a faulty list.
To me, Dak in 10 years has yet to take us to an NFC game, let alone claim a victory.
Like I say, close but never into the money game.
I feel Dak is the Marty Schottenheimer-like player of our time.
 
I think he can be because he has been before, but we'll have to see how much his latest injury has affected him. Dak isn't much of a runner, but if a couple of serious lower-body injuries have taken away that threat, I'm not sure he can be top 10 on arm talent alone. He's not a pocket statue with a rocket arm and precision aim.
Ive never liked Daks throwing motion. He's doesn't have that natural throwing ability.
A few years back people were talking about him having a higher TD passing percentage at the 50 yard line than at the 20. He just lacks that zip and accuracy we see even in guys like Baker and Purdy. Now this last crazy injury from just throwing tells me it's not natural what he is doing. I just don't see him turning things around with this schedule.
 
List is a joke! It's meant to bring controversy. Nobody but Jerry and Rockport think Dak is top 10.
What YOU smokin?

Lots of people have Dak Top 10 even off of a bad year. On a great year like last year he's Top 6... top 7 at worst. People who have him below 11 are a minority, a random online forum poster, or random YouTube users.
 
How the heck Justin Herbert keeps ending up on these lists is beyond me. :rolleyes: Matt Stafford hasn’t done anything the past three seasons. He’s only four games over 500 the past three seasons and his numbers are some of the weakest of his career. This list is one of the most ridiculous I’ve seen yet.
Who you having back in shotgun when the game is on the line, Dak or Stafford? I’m going Stafford all day long.
 
Who you having back in shotgun when the game is on the line, Dak or Stafford? I’m going Stafford all day long.
I’m going with Stafford too because he’s won a Super Bowl and I remember him beating the Cowboys in the closing seconds with a game on the line.
 
I’m going with Stafford too because he’s won a Super Bowl and I remember him beating the Cowboys in the closing seconds with a game on the line.
Yes. Really that's the only reason. We know he can do it. We know he failed in Detroit when his team wasn't good enough, just like Dak has failed in Dallas, but we don't know if Dak would have had the same success in LA that Stafford did.

Stafford's record as a QB is 108-113-1. His career completion percentage is 63.4. He has a 4.6 TD percentage (377) to 2.3 int. percentage (188). And his career QB rate is 91.2.

Dak is 76-46; 66.8; 5.1 (213); 2.0 (82); and 98.1. Technically, he should be the better player, but Stafford has a ring. I do think given the right circumstances that Dak could get a ring, too, but I certainly don't have proof of that.
 
A top 10 list of QBs that does not include Jalen Hurts is going to get my attention. And again, this list shows there is a huge drop off from the top 4 to the second tier. In fact, I think it is the top 4, then everybody else lumped together is one large pool of meh.

btw, I happen to believe that Justin Herbert actually is a good QB. But he is in that drop off from the top 4.

At the same time I think Jordan Love is overrated. Stroud did not look so good in 2024 and Trevor Lawrence has never lived up to the hype coming out of college. But like I said, you could pluck 4 other QBs not on this list and move them up while removing some off the list and it not going to matter.
 
so who is this guy? any reason we should treat his ratings as anything but dog crap?

Especially him putting Lawrence in the top 10
Just take these with a grain of salt. It's all relative to the talent pool. Top 20 is great if you have 100 great people competing. But being #4 means nothing if there are only 3 good players. The QB is not any better because someone ranked them in the top 10. Who cares?
 
So since Dak is top 10, and people have been saying we improved on the offensive line, and improved our running game from last year. That means no excuses, this year, right?
Add in the 1 / 1a WR duo . . . Oh wait the 3rd WR is not a 1 as well . . . there you go, your built in excuse

Oh yeah and when Dak struggles to read a defense and holds on to the Ball to Long, the Tackles will be thrown under the bus

Also the TE isn't an All Pro so that is another excise right there

But after a losing record Dak will tap out by week 8
 
Yes. Really that's the only reason. We know he can do it. We know he failed in Detroit when his team wasn't good enough, just like Dak has failed in Dallas, but we don't know if Dak would have had the same success in LA that Stafford did.

Stafford's record as a QB is 108-113-1. His career completion percentage is 63.4. He has a 4.6 TD percentage (377) to 2.3 int. percentage (188). And his career QB rate is 91.2.

Dak is 76-46; 66.8; 5.1 (213); 2.0 (82); and 98.1. Technically, he should be the better player, but Stafford has a ring. I do think given the right circumstances that Dak could get a ring, too, but I certainly don't have proof of that.
Stafford has had to deal with some seriously bad teams, coaching, and GM'ing. Anyone short of Jesus couldn't have helped those garbage Detroit teams.
 
So since Dak is top 10, and people have been saying we improved on the offensive line, and improved our running game from last year. That means no excuses, this year, right?

Only one quarterback will be crowned a Superbowl champion. So no... there's no excuses for Dak, the quarterbacks ranked higher than Dak, and the quarterbacks ranked lower than Dak.

As a matter of fact there's no excuses for the coaching staff, the defense or special teams either, because it takes all of their best efforts to win a Superbowl. Not just the 32 quarterbacks in the NFL.

There has never been a quarterback in history that has won a Superbowl by himself.
 

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