NBC: Doug Baldwin claims at least one owners has ordered players to stand for anthem

[jobberone]

Doug Baldwin claims at least one owners has ordered players to stand for anthem
Posted by Mike Florio on October 5, 2016, 11:50 PM EDT

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The NFL has no choice but to allow players to not stand for the national anthem, because no rule or labor agreement permits the NFL to compel it. But the 32 teams are individually owned, by folks who have a lot of money and power and like to spend (and make) the former and wield (and amass) the latter.

It’s no surprise, then, that Seahawks receiver Doug Baldwin claims that one or more owners have ordered players to stand for the anthem. Appearing on HBO’s Any Given Wednesday, Baldwin said that “some owners” have “taken a stand and told players to do certain things” regarding the anthem issue.

Pressed for specifics, Baldwin said, “[R]egarding the National Anthem and the protests, the one quote that I was informed of was, ‘You’re going to stand on the line with your hand on your heart and you’re going to sing the National Anthem because this is my stage.’”

Baldwin then clarified that it’s his understanding an owner said that. Baldwin didn’t specify the owner, but many will suspect that it was Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, who to date has been the only owner to express disappointment regarding anthem protests.

Whoever it was, someone needs to go public with the name and the specific quote, so that the owner can confirm or deny the contention. And so that the other 31 owners who didn’t say it won’t be inaccurately blamed for saying it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ners-has-ordered-players-to-stand-for-anthem/

 

[jobberone]

Please, stay on topic and try to avoid politicizing this beyond the article itself.

 

[Idgit]

Florio.

 

[DBOY3141]

An owner of a business can make rules that suit his company.

I wish I could wear flip flops and shorts to work, but the owner of my company says we will be in pants and collared shirt. So I have two choices, wear pants and collared shirt or find a new job. NFL players can do the same, follow the rules of your boss or find a new job.

 

[LandryFan]

Whoever it was, someone needs to go public with the name and the specific quote, so that the owner can confirm or deny the contention. And so that the other 31 owners who didn’t say it won’t be inaccurately blamed for saying it.

Blamed for it? Doesn't he mean get credit for it? Florio is a hack and a D-Bag. Kiss my *** florio!

 

[Denim Chicken]

An owner of a business can make rules that suit his company.

To a degree. You're an employee, not a slave.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I thought I read somewhere that Jerry Jones had made some comment about how the players and coaches in Dallas would stand or they wouldn't be in Dallas.

I could be wrong about that.

 

[DBOY3141]

To a degree. You're an employee, not a slave.

That would be quite the stretch to put slavery into the NFL...unless of course your Adrian Peterson. Every business has rules. Follow them or find other employment. Not that tough.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Every business has rules. Follow them or find other employment. Not that tough.

Not that simple. Ever heard of labor unions? NFL has quite a powerful one.

 

[joseephuss]

If a player was cut for not standing during the national anthem then I imagine the next week there would be dozens of new players not standing for the national anthem.

 

[joseephuss]

An owner of a business can make rules that suit his company.

I wish I could wear flip flops and shorts to work, but the owner of my company says we will be in pants and collared shirt. So I have two choices, wear pants and collared shirt or find a new job. NFL players can do the same, follow the rules of your boss or find a new job.

What if a player wants out of a place such as Cleveland? Should he kneel down for the national anthem and let the Browns cut him. Seems like he would be rewarded by getting the chance to go sign with another team.

The NFL probably has a more strict dress code than your place of employment. They fine players when their jerseys are untucked.

I doubt your place of business could just fire someone if they raised a flag, played the national anthem and that person didn't stand for it. At least without opening themselves up to some sort of lawsuit.

 

[Dodger12]

I hope it is Jerry and I hope he stands firm and enforces his position. These players represent a team and, in Jerry's case, a brand. I hope that the main reason for Jerry not allowing the players to disrepect the flag is because it's the right thing to do. But I'm also sure he wants to defend his brand.

If I was Jerry and a player wanted to draw negative attention to my family business, I'd most certainly sit him.

 

[DBOY3141]

That's the chance they take.

My point was every workplace/employer has rules, you follow them or you look for another job.

Who knows if this story is true or not. The NFL does not have a rule for standing during the national anthem, so players don't have to, but if NFL teams can add their own rules and this owner did so, then players should follow them. Just like Garrett added players travel in ties.

 

[erod]

Typical Florio.

This was debunked: http://www.snopes.com/jerry-jones-speech-911/

However, I would support it if he did. These are employees working for an organization and getting paid. They need to make their social stands on their own time. Period.

Fortunately, this isn't playing well across the nation. These tools just look like tools.

 

[Idgit]

Typical Florio.

This was debunked: http://www.snopes.com/jerry-jones-speech-911/

However, I would support it if he did. These are employees working for an organization and getting paid. They need to make their social stands on their own time. Period.

Fortunately, this isn't playing well across the nation. These tools just look like tools.

Lol, at the idea that Jerry Jones has ever said anything as articulate as this: "“Regardless of your personal opinions, this is a sacred day that we recognize the sacrifice and pain that so many have endured. When the National Anthem is played by a lone trumpet player in a few minutes you WILL stand and you WILL put your hand over your hearts.” Whoever wrote that wasn't even trying to channel Jerry.

 

[Denim Chicken]

"It’s an important question because neither league rules nor the labor deal allow owners to compel players to stand for the anthem. More specifically, no owner can take action against a player who refuses to comply."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...old-players-to-stand-for-the-national-anthem/

 

[paladin]

They need to make their social stands on their own time. Period.

^
This.
As a business owner I'd be hard pressed not to fire an employee who decided to display a political stance during work at my establishment.
Your job as my employee is to effectively market my brand, not promote your viewpoint, opinion or message.
Luckily modern athletes,due to media saturation are afforded the near constant ability to do just that - in their off hours.

 

[Denim Chicken]

^
This.
As a business owner I'd be hard pressed not to fire an employee who decided to display a political stance during work at my establishment.
Your job as my employee is to effectively market my brand, not promote your viewpoint, opinion or message.
Luckily modern athletes,due to media saturation are afforded the near constant ability to do just that - in their off hours.

You seem to not value labor's role in an organization.
Lucky, in the NFL at least, you'd be hard pressed to simply fire any of your top talent without severely devaluing your franchise. Labor has much more power in the NFL than in most organizations.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

^
This.
As a business owner I'd be hard pressed not to fire an employee who decided to display a political stance during work at my establishment.
Your job as my employee is to effectively market my brand, not promote your viewpoint, opinion or message.
Luckily modern athletes,due to media saturation are afforded the near constant ability to do just that - in their off hours.

You'd be out of business quickly then too.

I'm going to guess you're posting this while at work too, which would be epic irony.

 

[paladin]

You seem to not value labor's role in an organization.
Lucky, in the NFL at least, you'd be hard pressed to simply fire any of your top talent without severely devaluing your franchise. Labor has much more power in the NFL than in most organizations.

Clearly everything I wrote was from a "my business" perspective.
I think we both agree that the NFL is a unique environment that isn't applicable to our own situations.
But I have learned, (perhaps Romo will too) that not only is everyone replaceable, but that inevitably everyone, (labor & mgmt) gets replaced.
But well run businesses just go on regardless.