Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by quickccc, Nov 10, 2020.
They play the same position. Need the big nasty beside those two.
I was actually wondering if he switched to edibles.
Tyron was drafted at 20 years old Gregory was drafted at 22 years old
It will be good litmus tests to see how play hold up against those two teams on the ground. It might be an excellent gauge what future personnel is needed to combat that strong, zone blocking rushing teams.
Well if you look at games played he’s almost a rookie lol
Quick, if they keep their draft slot in that top 5 range, would they have the guts to take Parsons from Penn State and eventually move on from Jaylon. Parsons is a similar prospect as Jaylon was, not a take on guy, but suppose to have elite instincts for the position, which clearly Jaylon doesn't possess.
A lot of these guys just need opportunities.. Effort can still overcome skill in this sport and when you got a fat blob like Poe doing nothing and just collecting a check then you have to give the young guy a chance and he was shining last game.
He brought Pouncey off the ground on 1 play. If that’s not disruptive then I don’t know what is.
So you believe that both Hill/Gallimore are more 3T's on this level, that there is a need for more of a 0 or 1 next to them?
Yes. Hill doesn't anchor well enough to be a 1 tech at this level.
Now, Galley did bulk up to 330 and played NT for the Sooners one year. After watching him, though, that sure would seem like a waste of talent.
IMO, these two guys need to play the 3 tech next to the monster. One of the reasons Galley broke out, IMO, is having a Justin Hamilton type on the line. Hamilton is not great by any means, but at his size(6-2/315), he could easily be the anchor in the middle we need. Don't forget ol' Willie Blade, the anchor in the middle next to Laroi Gover who helped form the #1 D in the NFL for us in 03. He wasn't great, but he held up the middle, allowing others to do their jobs. Two "rushmen" at DT has never worked all that well in the NFL. Need at least one guy who can anchor.
They’re both 3 techs. They might be in together on passing downs, but not in the base defense.
Don't they play the same position?
Need that guy who can command a double team or force the guy in front of him back toward the QB.
Your right. Any candidates in mind for the offseason?
Was just saying that Tyron has more wear and tear on his body and it shows. Offensive lineman can usually play will into mid 30's
In NFL terms Randy is a puppy
Are they interchangeable ?
If they both manage to play and defend the run well enough as starters do you consider starting both of them ?
That's also a 2nd rounder (Hill) and a 3rd rounder (Gallimore) that we've have already invested and do you pint one of them to the bench simply because
he's not a fit type? Sapp and Booger were also 3 tech types but the Bucs thought Booger was too good enough to pass up in the draft despite already having
the incumbent Sapp. They managed to plug and defend run well enough to be a great DT pair.
- Hill hasn't played a lot of games either.
If anything backs him up to a reserve, it will be because of his lack of game experience.
First with Marinelli game day inactive him for almost half of the season. And now with the knee IR that shortening his season.
I would say it will take a full year for Hill to regain his previous form, but with todays medical technology and how some players manage to get back to play mode quickly
than vs past years.
- ironically one of the rap knocks against Gallimore is that he was lacking as a run defender. He has great weight room strength but hadn't translate that into the playing field as a run defender.
and it wasn't until the injuries to McCoy, Hill..and release of Poe that got Gally far more reps to even have a chance to show his skills.
Otherwise Gally is another red shirt case.
- one reason why that 2 starting rush men has not worked that well, is because big impact interior DTs are always so damn incredibly difficult to find anyway.
Even just trying to find one.
- You rarely get the occasional Chris Jones, Geno Atkins, Grady Jarrett type gem-finds past the 1st round. and more times you have to go 1st round to better
have the best chance to get impact DTs such as Aaron Donald, Fletcher Cox and DeForrest Buckner
.- And even that is a task as we're still waiting to see guys like Ed Oliver, Jon Allen, Ron Payne, Quentin Williams, Vita Vey, Solomon Thomas, Leonard Williams. etc.
That's what I thought, both have the 3 covered, but need a 0 or a 1 next to them
Dalvin Tomlinson would fit nicely.
Gotta love the jump from "first time showing a few flashes" to Gallimore has ENORMOUS upside!!!
Like the kid, but we have all heard this stuff before. People projecting a few plays to eventually the kid being like that all the time. Takes strength, commitment, guts, and heart to play that position and be good every week.
13:30 DLaw playing better MLB than LVE