Twitter: New catch rule going into effect

KJJ

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Bingo. Knowing the luck of Dallas, the new rule will in turn screw us over again

We screwed ourselves by not conforming to the rule. It was a bad rule but every team in the league had to play by the same rule.
 

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Over the past several days, the @NFL Competition Committee has been reviewing the process of a catch. The first two elements are control and two feet down. Additional elements are also under consideration. Here are a few of the plays we are looking at.

Interesting. "Additional elements"

I really want to see at what point they rule it a catch.

Fumblefest alert.
 

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This 'what is or isn't a catch' thing is ridiculous..That the NFL rules committee has to define it makes it even more so..Throw the ball to any kid and ask them if they caught it..99.99% of them can tell you...Replay, slow/stop motion has to be involved?, Then it isn't a catch.
 

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Over the past several days, the @NFL Competition Committee has been reviewing the process of a catch. The first two elements are control and two feet down. Additional elements are also under consideration. Here are a few of the plays we are looking at.

Interesting. "Additional elements"

I really want to see at what point they rule it a catch.

Fumblefest alert.

The threads will be coming when we lose a fumble arguing the ruling should have been incomplete pass. It's coming it is just a matter of how soon the situation is going to hurt us.
 

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The requirements for a catch, under the committee's likely proposal, will include the receiver controlling the ball and establishing himself in bounds. There will also be instruction for officials to define a time element, but it will apply both to receivers who are standing and those who are falling during the process of the catch.

The NFL likely will eliminate the "going to the ground" rule that caused controversy during the 2014 NFC divisional round, when a catch by the Cowboys' Dez Bryant was overturned and ruled incomplete. Andrew Weber-USA TODAY Sports
Vincent did not specify that element with the Post and did not immediately respond to a request from ESPN. But former NFL officiating chief Dean Blandino told ESPN recently that it would have to define an act common to the game, such as taking a certain number of steps, in order for officials to call the play consistently.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22844480/nfl-vp-troy-vincent-confirms-changes-nfl-catch-rule
 

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This was the current decades tuck rule. Any guess what the 20's obscure controversial rule will be?
 

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There will also be instruction for officials to define a time element, but it will apply both to receivers who are standing and those who are falling during the process of the catch.
I guess that means they will remove this sentence that was put into the rule book during the offseason after the overturn of Dez's catch in Green Bay:

"A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner."

Again, I said "after."
 

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The new rule will eliminate the requirement that a receiver who is in the process of going to the ground while making a catch must maintain control of the football while on the turf to be awarded a legal catch.​
So they'll go back to the way it was from 2011-14, which means if you complete the catch process (control + two feet + time) before you hit the ground, then you don't have to hold onto the ball after you hit the ground. The tombstone of "Upright long enough" will read 2015-17.

The question is, what will they use to satisfy the "time" requirement (after control + two feet)?

My guess is that they go back to looking for some type of football move, but they'll use wording that they didn't use from 2011-14, so that it appears different.
 

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I guess that means they will remove this sentence that was put into the rule book during the offseason after the overturn of Dez's catch in Green Bay:

"A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner."

Again, I said "after."
Nope. Sounds like they will just be removing the rule altogether because it will no longer apply as it has and as it did in 2014.
 

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So they'll go back to the way it was from 2011-14, which means if you complete the catch process (control + two feet + time) before you hit the ground, then you don't have to hold onto the ball after you hit the ground. The tombstone of "Upright long enough" will read 2015-17.

The question is, what will they use to satisfy the "time" requirement (after control + two feet)?

My guess is that they go back to looking for some type of football move, but they'll use wording that they didn't use from 2011-14, so that it appears different.

Nope. Maintaining possession through contacting the ground goes back to 1998.

Thats the only part they really haven't changed all these years but now appear ready to do so.
 

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Nope. Sounds like they will just be removing the rule altogether...
That would mean that you could get control, touch your second foot down just before you hit the ground, and it would be up to the official 's judgment as to whether you maintained control long enough after that for it to be a catch.

That would be an improvement over the way it is now, but not as good as it was from 2011-14 when the official (and fans) had a football move to look for.
 

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Here we go again another 50+ pages. :facepalm:
 

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That would mean that you could get control, touch your second foot down just before you hit the ground, and it would be up to the official 's judgment as to whether you maintained control long enough after that for it to be a catch.

That would be an improvement over the way it is now, but not as good as it was from 2011-14 when the official (and fans) had a football move to look for.
It will mean that an act common to the game can complete the process while a player is going to the ground.

And they know there will be problems with this and why they haven't released those details yet.

It's the time element that will be hard to identify for a ref. Steps will be easy. Even switching hands. The Dez play would be very easy to rule on.

But what about the guys who just dive and don't make any other move? Is it just when they contact the ground?
 

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It will mean that an act common to the game can complete the process while a player is going to the ground.
That would only require removing the sentence they added in 2015, after the Dez overturn.

"A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner."

The rest of Item 1 doesn't say anything about the player having to be upright in order to complete the catch process.

Item 1. Player Going to the Ground.
A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.
 
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