Newman vs. Campo...Pics Post #59/Vid Post #89

[mldardy]

Um, coaches are allowed to do that. Newman may make a ****load of money, but he and Campo are not equals. How many times did Ditka yank a guy by his facemask in order to make a point? A hundred? More? Did they ever shove back? Not on your life. If only Dave were so lucky.

I'm just not getting all worked about this and getting on my high horse and saying 'HE should be banished forever' OK. It's just honestly not that big a deal to me. These things happen in the heat of the moment. I saw Moreno and Marshall of the Denver Broncos shoving each other on the sidelines today. These things can happen sometimes.

Ditka didn't yank on someone's facemask a hundred times. If he did I guarantee you a player would have knocked him into next week. Did he do it a few time yeah. Campo shouldn't have grabbed him like that. Just yell at the guy, cuss him out whatever but when you put your hands on a player just coming off the field in the heat of the moment things like this may occur. You want to suspend him fine if that makes you feel better at night.

 

[Sickwitit]

If you dont think newman is the best defender in the secondary your out of your mind....I agree jenkins is a beast very solid all the way around but he is young, but if i had to take one RIGHT NOW newman hands down he doesnt give up much at all.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Here you go:

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Clearly Newman pushed Campo here, really no debate if he is guilty or not.

The question now is the team going to puinish Newman??? I would say a fine is in order, you cant have players pushing their position coaches on the sideline during a freaking game.

Besides, Newman just got burnt for a 1st on 3rd and long (sound familiar??), so if I was Campo I would have been pissed too. I would have been like, "what the hell are you doing out there Newman???"

 

[CalCBFan]

Newman should get suspended by the team for that. It was one of the most unprofessional things I have ever seen by a player on this team.

Could not agree more. It looked as if Newman actually threw a punch after the original altercation and they had moved to the bench area.

BTW, I'd add a $25K fine to that suspension. If this team ever expects to win, the players have to be truly accountable and not get away w/ that kind of behavior...

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Campo says no big deal, so that's what it is. /story

 

[BubbleScreen]

Newman would have been in the doghouse with fans regardless of what he did.

If he just chooses to walk away from Campo who is ripping into him ( and as you can see from the first few seconds) grasping his arms, Campo probably would not have just let him walk away...And we'd rip into him for even trying...

If he pushes Campo off b/c he doesn't like being grabbed by the coach (which is most likely what happened) we rip into him for that...

If he sits there and just nods his head we'd rip into him for letting the initial play happen anyways.

Lose/lose scenario for him.

Question for those who thought the push was way out of line.... Now it is quite clear to me at least, that is was a defensive push.. ( a give me my space and get off me) type of push. I don't see how anyone could think a professional football player wouldn't have simply shoved the coach down if that was his intentions...

But back to my question, do those of you who think Newman was out of line not agree that Campo was also out of line for getting into his face and grabbing Newmans arms(which you can see in the video)? If that had been your son would it be okay? Doubtful.

If Newman really just 'wanted his space' why did he bump his helmet into Campo's face immediately after pushing him off?

Newman lost his temper. That's not the end of the world. What's really bad is this attitude of his that he's above reproach. That's not new. He has many times failed to accept responsibility for his miscues on the field, from the Parcells era up to last season.

We need a coachable CB out there, T-New!

 

[TNCowboy]

What a disaster this team is.

The players have zero respect for the coaching staff. And while I'm in agreement with them in that regard, they cannot under any circumstances be allowed to undermine that authority. This is where a real HC or GM would come in handy. Of course, we have neither. We have a moron owner who was evidently cheering the fracas.

You don't think it's a big deal, go to work today, get upset with your employer, supervisor, whoever, and shove them. See if it's a big deal.

 

[Frozen700]

Then you're willfully blind. What does Newman have to do to raise your ire? Throw a punch? Draw blood?

wow....the hysteria made over this

campo himself said there like family...hes not even mad, why are you people acting like he hurt your family member...they obviously looked past it as not a huge issue

 

[Frozen700]

If you dont think newman is the best defender in the secondary your out of your mind....I agree jenkins is a beast very solid all the way around but he is young, but if i had to take one RIGHT NOW newman hands down he doesnt give up much at all.

remember...they all like ints

 

[trueblue1687]

I would venture that Newman didn't like being held accountable for the play. I agree with a big fine and maybe a free kick to the huevos by Campo. A player can always expect some problems if you take it too far with a coach.....Newman went too far.

 

[JBond]

After watching the video, no big deal.

Get over it.

Bigger fish to fry.

Although, Newman needs to control his temper and emotions AND play better. Newman was yelling at Carp last week.

You can not hit/push/shove your boss. I do not care who you are or what you do. In any other profession he would be fired immediately.

$20,000 fine and two week suspension without pay. That is the very least that should happen.

 

[Vtwin]

I wonder if Newman would have touched Campo at all if Campo didn't have his hands on Newman.

Campo is not faultless here.

 

[MapleLeaf]

...about football.

You cannot touch your football coach in an inappropriate manner. Why not?

First, there's in only one person who is armoured up.

Second, it's difficult enough under normal circumstances to have (50) some odd personalities agree on any topic, but if you blur the rules of engagement the line of respect is diminished between a coach and the player. This gives a chance for other players to challenge the coach/coaching staff.

It may lead to something as subtle as players thinking the schemes or plays called are stupid and having the players go off the "game plan" because they think they are right as opposed to the coach.

Worse is another player more volatile decides to take matters into his own hands because he feels a coach has disrespected his "manhood".

This is a violent game and the coaches are there to instruct and direct the violence towards an end. If you allow the players to decide who and when they turn on their emotions to you may be served up with problems in practice, the sidelines or, god forbid, out in the street.

Although it may have not ended up being a big deal and it's great that Newman and Campo were able to get back down to business I believe it's important for Phillips to get this team to stay focused on the task at hand.

Part of that job in my opinion would be to fine Newman and to send a message to the team that behavior like this towards a coach is not acceptable. The message should be about discipline and directing your emotions towards the players on the other team.

Something Newman can do and Campo can't.

As for Campo, it would be for Jerry to decide on whether this incident is indicative of his coaching style and whether Campo can be effective in his role. That would be an offseason decision in my opinion.

This issue isn't about who is right or wrong. If you focus on that as a player I would suspect there is a maturity issue at hand here.

What this is more about is the discipline and control required to keep a team oriented focus on the real task at hand - working together to win football games.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I wonder if the term "senior abuse" is relevant here.
If he pushed a senior citizen, Newman could do time. . . . naw!

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I wonder if Newman would have touched Campo at all if Campo didn't have his hands on Newman.

Campo is not faultless here.

Bingo. Campo went up and kind of chest bumped him. Not that it excuses Newman, but it's not like Campo only yelled at him and Newman went and assaulted him. Seems like both guys were wrong.

That said, both guys have dismissed it, so why can't we?

 

[WoodysGirl]

Bingo. Campo went up and kind of chest bumped him. Not that it excuses Newman, but it's not like Campo only yelled at him and Newman went and assaulted him. Seems like both guys were wrong.

That said, both guys have dismissed it, so why can't we?

Because of the way the game was won.

Lots of seething anger that, IMO, doesn't have anything to do with Newman and Campo, moreso with the play on the field.

 

[tomson75]

Bingo. Campo went up and kind of chest bumped him. Not that it excuses Newman, but it's not like Campo only yelled at him and Newman went and assaulted him. Seems like both guys were wrong.

That said, both guys have dismissed it, so why can't we?

This.

Because of the way the game was won.

Lots of seething anger that, IMO, doesn't have anything to do with Newman and Campo, moreso with the play on the field.

...and this.

The usual suspects aren't going to let this go. Any evidence of this team not being perfect, and it's automatically the dregs of the league. there is no middle ground with them.

If this had been something outside of a game, I could see more serious connotations from it, but this seems to be a heat of the battle type occurrence to me.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Shows how hypocritical this board is.

Imagine if a former Cowboys receiver had done something like this. Thread would be 50 pages deep. But everyone just wants to drop it with Newman.

Never been a fan of Campo, never thought Newman was as great as people make him out to be - both guys are in the wrong here. I'm glad they aren't perpetuating the issue.

 

[tomson75]

Shows how hypocritical this board is.

Imagine if a former Cowboys receiver had done something like this. Thread would be 50 pages deep. But everyone just wants to drop it with Newman.

Never been a fan of Campo, never thought Newman was as great as people make him out to be - both guys are in the wrong here. I'm glad they aren't perpetuating the issue.

Yo don't read well, do you?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yo don't read well, do you?

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