NFC East records since Garrett took over Cowboys

[Pabst]

I was messing around on Pro Football Reference earlier, and noticed some interesting stats looking back since Garrett took the reins halfway through the 2010 season.

Basically, division records since Garrett took over are as follows:

Dallas: 29-27
New York: 29-27
Philadelphia: 27-29
Washington: 20-36

Very surprising how close Dallas, New York and Philly are in terms of record since he took over. More surprising is that Garrett's reign is tied for best with New York in terms of W/L record. New York and Dallas are more steady year to year, whereas Washington and Philly have significant spikes in record.

Obviously, getting into the playoffs is all that matters, and Garrett has unequivocally failed at that. Just found it a bit interesting.

Team - 2010 (2nd half of season) - 2011 - 2012 - 2013
Dallas: 5-3 8-8 8-8 8-8
New York: 4-4 9-7 9-7 7-9
Philly: 5-3 8-8 4-12 10-6
Washington: 2-6 5-11 10-6 3-13

 

[Idgit]

We did it, too, starting with a 1-7 team prior to that span. I agree, that Garrett's record is not as bad as people want to believe it is, for some reason. Each of the other teams has qualified for the playoffs as a division champion once during that span. It's not like we're particularly lagging behind the pack playing in the three division-deciding games. And we know what our problem has been each and every one of those seasons, and have our complement of draft picks and whatever cap resources we end up having available to fix it. Standing pat on the coaching staff is not the end of the world here in Dallas.

 

[Hoofbite]

Whole lotta average.

 

[TheCount]

we know what our problem has been each and every one of those seasons, and have our complement of draft picks and whatever cap resources we end up having available to fix it. Standing pat on the coaching staff is not the end of the world here in Dallas.

If only it were that easy.

Also, saying that 5-3 makes Garrett's record "not as bad as people want to believe" is hyperbole, 2 more wins doesn't change nearly as much as you might be alluding it does.

 

[Reality]

This basically shows that the NFC East has been weak for the last 3+ years which means we should have won the division at least once or twice. That 29-27 record would look a lot better if it was made up a couple of 11, 12, etc. win seasons. 8-8 is average so we avoid top draft picks and the playoffs all at the same time. I hate going 7-9, 8-8, 9-7. I would rather go 10-6 or better or 6-10 or worse. At least we would get something out of it.

 

[noshame]

This basically shows that the NFC East has been weak for the last 3+ years which means we should have won the division at least once or twice. That 29-27 record would look a lot better if it was made up a couple of 11, 12, etc. win seasons. 8-8 is average so we avoid top draft picks and the playoffs all at the same time. I hate going 7-9, 8-8, 9-7. I would rather go 10-6 or better or 6-10 or worse. At least we would get something out of it.

Closed/

 

[visionary]

This basically shows that the NFC East has been weak for the last 3+ years which means we should have won the division at least once or twice. That 29-27 record would look a lot better if it was made up a couple of 11, 12, etc. win seasons. 8-8 is average so we avoid top draft picks and the playoffs all at the same time. I hate going 7-9, 8-8, 9-7. I would rather go 10-6 or better or 6-10 or worse. At least we would get something out of it.

could not have said it better

 

[The Natural]

Dallas: 5-3 8-8 8-8 8-8

This is sickening

 

[romothesavior]

I agree, that Garrett's record is not as bad as people want to believe it is, for some reason. Each of the other teams has qualified for the playoffs as a division champion once during that span.

You interpret these numbers as "Hey, we're about as mediocre and average as everyone else in the division during JG's tenure."

I (and almost everyone else) interprets this as "Wow, the division has been terrible the past few years and this is the best JG can do?"

 

[DanteEXT]

You interpret these numbers as "Hey, we're about as mediocre and average as everyone else in the division during JG's tenure."

I (and almost everyone else) interprets this as "Wow, the division has been terrible the past few years and this is the best JG can do?"

So you believe the Cowboys are head and shoulders above everyone else in the NFC East in talent and ability?

 

[Beast_from_East]

This basically shows that the NFC East has been weak for the last 3+ years which means we should have won the division at least once or twice. That 29-27 record would look a lot better if it was made up a couple of 11, 12, etc. win seasons. 8-8 is average so we avoid top draft picks and the playoffs all at the same time. I hate going 7-9, 8-8, 9-7. I would rather go 10-6 or better or 6-10 or worse. At least we would get something out of it.

Exactly...................this crap we are getting out of Garrett is the worst case scenario.....................not bad enough to get high picks and not good enough to be a playoff team.

 

[ufcrules1]

This basically shows that the NFC East has been weak for the last 3+ years which means we should have won the division at least once or twice. That 29-27 record would look a lot better if it was made up a couple of 11, 12, etc. win seasons. 8-8 is average so we avoid top draft picks and the playoffs all at the same time. I hate going 7-9, 8-8, 9-7. I would rather go 10-6 or better or 6-10 or worse. At least we would get something out of it.

Bravo.. excellent post.

 

[Beast_from_East]

We did it, too, starting with a 1-7 team prior to that span. I agree, that Garrett's record is not as bad as people want to believe it is, for some reason. Each of the other teams has qualified for the playoffs as a division champion once during that span. It's not like we're particularly lagging behind the pack playing in the three division-deciding games. And we know what our problem has been each and every one of those seasons, and have our complement of draft picks and whatever cap resources we end up having available to fix it. Standing pat on the coaching staff is not the end of the world here in Dallas.

The fact that Garrett has not been able to even post a winning record when the rest of the NFC East has sucked is even more laughable..............like Reality said, no excuse for Garrett to not have won it at least once.

 

[Risen Star]

This basically shows that the NFC East has been weak for the last 3+ years which means we should have won the division at least once or twice. That 29-27 record would look a lot better if it was made up a couple of 11, 12, etc. win seasons. 8-8 is average so we avoid top draft picks and the playoffs all at the same time. I hate going 7-9, 8-8, 9-7. I would rather go 10-6 or better or 6-10 or worse. At least we would get something out of it.

I'm glad you said it. 8-8 is no man's land in the NFL. When you have a young emerging core of players it's not the end of the world to be stuck at .500 a few seasons as they develop. When your core is aging, and you have no cap room to speak of, it's pretty much the worst place to be. No playoffs, no high draft pick, no significant FAs.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

Garett is such a bad coach that he's bringing down the whole division.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Only one team on there hasn't won the division at least once... Guess which one.

 

[DBOY3141]

Sad division and a very sad franchise the Cowboys have become. They can't even compete in a terrible division, let alone the NFC. Nothing will change until JJ takes his dirt nap.

 

[Risen Star]

Sad division and a very sad franchise the Cowboys have become. They can't even compete in a terrible division, let alone the NFC. Nothing will change until JJ takes his dirt nap.

He's in his 70s.

I always focus on that when the team fails or he offers the media his latest gem.

 

[burmafrd]

We did it, too, starting with a 1-7 team prior to that span. I agree, that Garrett's record is not as bad as people want to believe it is, for some reason. Each of the other teams has qualified for the playoffs as a division champion once during that span. It's not like we're particularly lagging behind the pack playing in the three division-deciding games. And we know what our problem has been each and every one of those seasons, and have our complement of draft picks and whatever cap resources we end up having available to fix it. Standing pat on the coaching staff is not the end of the world here in Dallas.

a team that won the division the season before

a team that had its franchise QB in place

and has been unable to post a winning record since

you go ahead and applaud. Not me

 

[Wolfpack]

Some sad thoughts of mine;

Even if they went 6-10 vs 8-8, guess who is still picking that higher draft pick?

Better game management alone, wins the division outright each year.

A real OL wins the division in 2011/12. To roll a franchise QB out with that excuse of a line is a waste.

Any sort of Defensive depth probably would get you the division in 12 or 13. To have to trout out UDFA rookies and street guys is just poor management.


Get a good (not even great) game manager and a good (not even great) personal manager and this team should have won the East all three years going and not even been close. Thats not even getting into the play calling or offensive scheme issues.