NFCE Rankings by positional groups offense

[Alexander]

...if DL/D-Coach sees that a team is running the ball more often than they passing (and until such time as the Giants obtain two credible WRs, Jacobs has to be the "go-to" player), a team becomes one-dimensional to any given DL ...and you know that).

The Giants still ran the ball effectively even with Burress gone. Their OL makes it work, not the threat of the pass.

I'm not taking away from Hakeen's natural talent, but he is a rookie! Rookies will undoubtedly make rookie mistakes. If He's good, he'll make fewer mistakes. But Eli is not going to crown this guy "go-to" simply because he was good in college. Coupled with the fact that he's got to learn a brand spanking new playbook/system on top of everything else.

He's more pro ready than Maclin, but I didn't notice that stopping you from ranking the Eagle WRs higher.

 

[Hostile]

Listen Hos ...with all due respect, it's not too soon in my opinion. Sure, see things differently, that's what makes our dialogue "interesting." But that's how you see it. From my view, since we don't have the benefit of knowing anything concrete until the season starts ...

...if DL/D-Coach sees that a team is running the ball more often than they pass the ball (and until such time as the Giants obtain two credible WRs, Jacobs has to be the "go-to" player), a team becomes one-dimensional to any given DL ...and you know that).

I'm not taking away from Hakeem's natural talent, but he is a rookie! Rookies will undoubtedly make rookie mistakes. If He's good, he'll make fewer mistakes. But Eli is not going to crown this guy "go-to" simply because he was good in college. Coupled with the fact that he's got to learn a brand spanking new playbook/system on top of everything else. Not to mention how Brandon opened up his big mouth about Romo ...

Naturally I could be wrong, but I don't think so, I think they may have problems in the RB compartment.

PT

I'll stick with acknowledging proven talent and though I may hate it, the Giants RB trio have proven themselves and don't need to be dropped because of personnel changes out wide. The OL in front of them is intact and they have proven they are more than capable.

Proven ability over speculation.

 

[Hostile]

The Giants still ran the ball effectively even with Burress gone. Their OL makes it work, not the threat of the pass.



He's more pro ready than Maclin, but I didn't notice that stopping you from ranking the Eagle WRs higher.

That was going to be my next point.

Thief.

 

[burmafrd]

One should never predict any rookie will either be a total bust or total stud or anything in the ballpark on either extreme. That is why they are rookies.
Any team with a rookie expected to make a heavy contribution should be rated as unknown until the regular season starts and you see them in real games. I do not care how NFL ready scouts say he is (they said that about Carpenter, remember).

 

[zrinkill]

Who published these rankings? Nevermind ... I'll assume these are subjective rankings that you made up; and they did not come from an official source.

That said - here are the official PT Eagles Fan rankings

QBs:
(1) Eagles
RBs:
1) Eagles
Receiving Corps:
1) Eagles
OL:
1) Eagles

PT

:laugh2:What a joke

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

The Giants still ran the ball effectively even with Burress gone. Their OL makes it work, not the threat of the pass..

I respect your opinion.

He's more pro ready than Maclin, but I didn't notice that stopping you from ranking the Eagle WRs higher.

Maclin wasn't even factored into the ranking equation; Jackson, Curtis, Basket were; but it's just my opinion.

PT

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

What a joke

It just ain't so ...read the post again ...Nevermind ...

QBs:

(1/2/3) Eagles, Cowboys and Giants are equally matched
4) Commanders

RBs:

1/2) Eagles and Cowboys equally matched
3) Commanders (Portis is no joke)
4) NYG (one dimensional without Toomer or Buress)

Receiving Corps:

1/2) Eagles and Cowboys equally matched
3) Commanders
4) Giants

OL:

1) Eagles Shawn Andrews and his brother strengthened the Eagle OL
2/3)Giants-Cowboys (who did the Giants or Cowboys get?)
4) Skins

The yokes on you.:

PT

 

[Stash]

It just ain't so ...read the post again ...Nevermind ...

QBs:

(1/2/3) Eagles, Cowboys and Giants are equally matched
4) Commanders

RBs:

1/2) Eagles and Cowboys equally matched
3) Commanders (Portis is no joke)
4) NYG (one dimensional without Toomer or Buress)

Receiving Corps:

1/2) Eagles and Cowboys equally matched
3) Commanders
4) Giants

OL:

1) Eagles Shawn Andrews and his brother strengthened the Eagle OL
2/3)Giants-Cowboys (who did the Giants or Cowboys get?)
4) Skins

The yokes on you.:

PT

Funny, every time I see the number 1, I see the word Eagles right next to it...

At least the original poster put some thought into it rather than simply pulling a lever voting for his team across the board.

 

[Alexander]

Maclin wasn't even factored into the ranking equation

Why on earth not?

Jackson, Curtis, Basket were; but it's just my opinion.

PT

So a couple of number two receivers and a one-trick pony fourth receiver is why they are the top WR unit in the division?

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Funny, every time I see the number 1, I see the word Eagles right next to it...

At least the original poster put some thought into it rather than simply pulling a lever voting for his team across the board.

The thing with you stasheroo is that I never know when you are merely making comments because you're anti Eagle or if you a making a legitimate statement.

In this instance, it didn't matter whether the Cowboys were in the position next to #1 or not ...what matters would be the fact that the Cowboys are also considered #1 in those positions indicated.

But that doesn't matter does it? How about, I'm an Eagles fan and I prefer to have my team in the first slot; regardless of whether they are all ranked number one?! Here's an example that you may have agreed with...

#1) cowboys, Giants, Eagles

That's ridiculous for you to think like that! Now that's what you want to hear so there it is ...but only for you. For everyone else ...that's not how it was intended at all.

PT

 

[zrinkill]

that's not how it was intended at all.

PT

Your history says differently.

 

[Stash]

The thing with you stasheroo is that I never know when you are merely making comments because you're anti Eagle or if you a making a legitimate statement.

In this instance, it didn't matter whether the Cowboys were in the position next to #1 or not ...what matters would be the fact that the Cowboys are also considered #1 in those positions indicated.

But that doesn't matter does it? How about, I'm an Eagles fan and I prefer to have my team in the first slot; regardless of whether they are all ranked number one?! Here's an example that you may have agreed with...

#1) cowboys, Giants, Eagles

That's ridiculous for you to think like that! Now that's what you want to hear so there it is ...but only for you. For everyone else ...that's not how it was intended at all.

PT

If you had even one spot where the Eagles weren't ranked #1, you might have been taken seriously.

There wasn't so you weren't.

This isn't the first year you've come in here with your offseason Eagles propoganda.

You've got homerism worse than anyone else I've ever seen.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

You can find these position rankings in multiple places ...none of them are exactly the same. Credit to:
http://www.sportsrefuge.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30674

Jterell……..……….Phoenix-Talon…………………………Sports Refuge
QBs:
1a) Dallas…………….Dallas, Giants or Eagles……………………….……..Dallas
1b) Giants…………….” ………”…………….”………………………………..………Eagles
1c) Eagles…………….” ………”…………….”……………………………..…………Giants
4) Commanders………….Commanders…………………………………………………..…Commanders


Jterell……..……….PT………………………………………..Sports Refuge
RBs:
1) NYG………………….Eagles or Cowboys………………………………..…..Dallas
2) Dallas …………….” ……………..”…………….……………………………………Eagles
3) Wash………………Commanders…………………………………………………………Commanders
4) Philly………………Giants…………………………………………………………….Giants


Jterell……..……….PT………………………………………Sports Refuge
Receiving Corps:

1) Dallas………………Cowboys or Eagles………………………………………..Dallas
2) Eagles………………Cowboys or Eagles………………………………………..Giants
3) Wash………………..Commanders………………………………………………………..Commanders
4) Giants………………Giants……………………………………………………………..Eagles


Jterell……..……….PT…………………………………………..Sports Refuge
OL:

1) Giants………………Eagles………………………………………………………..……. Cowboys
2) Dallas……………….Giants Cowboys……………………………………………… Giants
3) Eagles……………… Giants Cowboys.........................................Eagles
4) Skins......………..Commanders................................................................Commanders

These rankins mean absolutely nothing!

PT

 

[Stash]

You can find these position rankings in multiple places ...none of them are exactly the same. Credit to:
http://www.sportsrefuge.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30674

Jterell……..……….Phoenix-Talon…………………………Sports Refuge
QBs:
1a) Dallas…………….Dallas, Giants or Eagles……………………….……..Dallas
1b) Giants…………….” ………”…………….”………………………………..………Eagles
1c) Eagles…………….” ………”…………….”……………………………..…………Giants
4) Commanders………….Commanders…………………………………………………..…Commanders


Jterell……..……….PT………………………………………..Sports Refuge
RBs:
1) NYG………………….Eagles or Cowboys………………………………..…..Dallas
2) Dallas …………….” ……………..”…………….……………………………………Eagles
3) Wash………………Commanders…………………………………………………………Commanders
4) Philly………………Giants…………………………………………………………….Giants


Jterell……..……….PT………………………………………Sports Refuge
Receiving Corps:

1) Dallas………………Cowboys or Eagles………………………………………..Dallas
2) Eagles………………Cowboys or Eagles………………………………………..Giants
3) Wash………………..Commanders………………………………………………………..Commanders
4) Giants………………Giants……………………………………………………………..Eagles


Jterell……..……….PT…………………………………………..Sports Refuge
OL:

1) Giants………………Eagles………………………………………………………..……. Cowboys
2) Dallas……………….Giants Cowboys……………………………………………… Giants
3) Eagles……………… Giants Cowboys.........................................Eagles
4) Skins......………..Commanders................................................................Commanders

These rankins mean absolutely nothing!

PT

On the contrary, JTerrell made an informed, well-thought post backing up each of his points. His post means a lot.

And again, the only homer I see trying to wedge his team into the top slot every time is you (never heard of Sports Refuge anyway).

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

On the contrary, JTerrell made an informed, well-thought post backing up each of his points. His post means a lot.

And again, the only homer I see trying to wedge his team into the top slot every time is you (never heard of Sports Refuge anyway).

Of course JTerrell is a legitimate poster (and former Moderator)! Still, I care to differ with him and you! None of our rankings mean anything until the metal hits the road (meaning ...until the season starts and we can make assessments based on performance in lieu of speculation.

Up to this point, all of our predictions/rankings are merely conjecture; or in some cases pontification. You know what I mean?!

PT

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I think all the teams in the division are pretty close such that every fan can make a legitimate argument. I think the giants WR group is unproven, even on those they have on the roster and they lost their top 2 WRs. the eagles have a pretty good group and McLain won't be asked to step in and be an impact player.

the one think I disagree with is our OL is third in the division behind giants and Eagles. the skins may argue they added dockery, but they lack depth and they lost Janson, although he was awful the past couple of years.

 

[Stash]

Of course JTerrell is a legitimate poster (and former Moderator)! Still, I care to differ with him and you! None of our rankings mean anything until the metal hits the road (meaning ...until the season starts and we can make assessments based on performance in lieu of speculation.

Up to this point, all of our predictions/rankings are merely conjecture; or in some cases pontification. You know what I mean?!

PT

I see what you're trying to say.

And I also see what you actually said.

JTerrell brought forth a well thought out post and supported each of his conclusions.

You spewed out a numerical list making sure the Eagles were either 1st or 'tied' for it, presumably thinking that it would pass, with no solid reasoning to back it up - in other words - nonsense.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

And again, the only homer I see trying to wedge his team into the top slot every time is you (never heard of Sports Refuge anyway).

Have you ever heard of ...


ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2009&week=0

ABC Sports http://pats1211.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13417707/13418439

Bleacher Report
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/155922-pre-draft-2009-nfl-power-rankings

None of the Power Rankings on any of these mean anything either. The point is that it's just subjective until official kickoff time! So just get your beer or favorite beverage ready and stop taking these things so darn serious until we have all the facts. It's not too early to predict ...but those predictions aren't alway accurate.

PT

 

[Stash]

Have you ever heard of ...


ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2009&week=0

ABC Sports http://pats1211.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13417707/13418439

Bleacher Report
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/155922-pre-draft-2009-nfl-power-rankings

None of the Power Rankings on any of these mean anything either. The point is that it's just subjective until official kickoff time! So just get your beer or favorite beverage ready and stop taking these things so darn serious until we have all the facts. It's not too early to predict ...but those predictions aren't alway accurate.

PT

I'd be willing to bet that each contains more thought than:

QB's
1) Eagles

RB's
1) Eagles

WR's
1) Eagles

OL
1) Eagles

That's just a lot of homer nonsense!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I'd be willing to bet that each contains more thought than:

QB's
1) Eagles

RB's
1) Eagles

WR's
1) Eagles

OL
1) Eagles

That's just a lot of homer nonsense!

That's your perrogative as a poster ...you don't have to agree with my predictions; nor do you have to "follow" someone else's predictions ...your wasting time fussing about my opinion when you don't even have any predictions of your own. What's that about?! If you don't come up with your own predictions, I'm through wasting my time trying to convince you that there is nothing written in stone here!

PT