NFL Abuse of Pain Killers

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...1a71d8-035a-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html

National Football League teams violated federal laws governing prescription drugs, disregarded guidance from the Drug Enforcement Administration on how to store, track, transport and distribute controlled substances, and plied their players with powerful painkillers and anti-inflammatories each season, according to sealed court documents contained in a federal lawsuit filed by former players.

The sealed material, which was reviewed by The Washington Post, provides a rare look into the league’s relationship with drugs and how team doctors manage the pain inherent in a bruising sport to keep players on the field.
 

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Don't blame the NFL so much as blame their sponsors. I'm sure Anheuser-Busch, Coors, and all of the prescription drug companies take a great interest in the NFL putting marijuana on their banned substances list.





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Anheuser-Busch spent millions in Arizona alone to keep recreational pot illegal in Arizona this past voting cycle. Believe me, I'm aware of the outside influences. However, the NFL and the NFLPA can thumb their noses at any of these advertisers and take the next guy in line if they decide to strike marijuana testing from the books. Budweiser is no longer the "official" beer sponsor of the NFL? No problem, Hello Miller Lite.
 

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Anheuser-Busch spent millions in Arizona alone to keep recreational pot illegal in Arizona this past voting cycle. Believe me, I'm aware of the outside influences. However, the NFL and the NFLPA can thumb their noses at any of these advertisers and take the next guy in line if they decide to strike marijuana testing from the books. Budweiser is no longer the "official" beer sponsor of the NFL? No problem, Hello Miller Lite.

As somebody who works in this world of 'official sponsorships' with licensing agreements and for a business where major companies are bidding high to get these deals...it's not nearly as easy as you think and executives don't view it as something you can easily replace with another company. I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, but so many of these major companies view marijuana as a competitor and the NFL will stop at nothing to appease them because once you lose 1 big company, now you're less appealing to other big companies. The leverage swings back to the sponsors and now you're getting less favorable deals.

And what's to say that Miller Brewing Company would not oppose legalizing marijuana?




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As somebody who works in this world of 'official sponsorships' with licensing agreements and for a business where major companies are bidding high to get these deals...it's not nearly as easy as you think and executives don't view it as something you can easily replace with another company. I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, but so many of these major companies view marijuana as a competitor and the NFL will stop at nothing to appease them because once you lose 1 big company, now you're less appealing to other big companies. The leverage swings back to the sponsors and now you're getting less favorable deals.

And what's to say that Miller Brewing Company would not oppose legalizing marijuana?






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I'm certain Miller brewing Company isn't in any more favor of legalization as the next liquor company. The point is that changing a testing policy isn't going to affect a single sponsorship in the NFL. The likelihood that every single beer company shutters the windows and doors on NFL sponsorship because they stopped testing for marijuana is, literally, zero.
 

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As somebody who works in this world of 'official sponsorships' with licensing agreements and for a business where major companies are bidding high to get these deals...it's not nearly as easy as you think and executives don't view it as something you can easily replace with another company. I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, but so many of these major companies view marijuana as a competitor and the NFL will stop at nothing to appease them because once you lose 1 big company, now you're less appealing to other big companies. The leverage swings back to the sponsors and now you're getting less favorable deals.

And what's to say that Miller Brewing Company would not oppose legalizing marijuana?

YR

Do the big alcohol companies realize that a person might use both pot and alcohol the same way a lot of people use both tobacco and alcohol?
 

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Do the big alcohol companies realize that a person might use both pot and alcohol the same way a lot of people use both tobacco and alcohol?

I don't think they do. But having done plenty of both, I much prefer pot over alcohol. No hangovers the next day and you can learn how to function after some use of marijuana.

I think alcohol companies feel it's competition and I agree that it is competition. Of course, a company like Anheuser Busch could get into the marijuana business, but that's a great and expensive undertaking.





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Why not get a nation wide marijuana deal for the NFL as a sponsor.

Good luck.

What many people don't understand is that all the federal government has done is told the states that if they legalized marijuana, that's their right to do so for now. However, they always reserve the right to change their mind and gave some guidelines as far as what they won't stand for (kids getting marijuana and marijuana in schools is the big one).

Even in Colorado, marijuana is *not* legal in the entire state. All Colorado did was allow the local governments to decide if they want to legalize marijuana or not. So, you can be in Denver where it is legal, but be in another place in Colorado where it's illegal.

With that, dispensaries do NOT deposit their money into your regular banks. Why? Because most banks are federally insured and the federal government has never legalized weed and they may shut down the legalization of marijuana at any time. That means the profits could be seized at any time.

So these dispensaries usually end up putting their money in their own heavy duty safes. I could be wrong, but I think some of them have created their own small 'bank' for them to just deposit their money in a safe place.

That's one of the sad parts of this mess...while it's legal to have pot in places like Colorado and Washington, the lack of a banking system and the fear of shutting down the legalization by the feds means that they cannot properly fund more research for using marijuana for medical purposes. We've seen marijuana oil eliminate violent seizures, but often times it's about finding the right dosage for the problem which could be better resolved if there was better funding to allow for better research.

So trying to get a sponsorship deal in the NFL is way down the list of priorities.




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I don't think they do. But having done plenty of both, I much prefer pot over alcohol. No hangovers the next day and you can learn how to function after some use of marijuana.

I think alcohol companies feel it's competition and I agree that it is competition. Of course, a company like Anheuser Busch could get into the marijuana business, but that's a great and expensive undertaking.
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I think you're right. As more and more states legalize pot, it's in the beer companies' interests to diversify and sell marijuana, but companies tend to not like change. You're right that it's an expensive undertaking. I agree with you about the hangovers too. When I had my eye operation, the pain meds the doctor gave me were ineffective, but pot worked great. I didn't even use enough to get high. It was just enough to kill the pain.
 

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I think you're right. As more and more states legalize pot, it's in the beer companies' interests to diversify and sell marijuana, but companies tend to not like change. You're right that it's an expensive undertaking. I agree with you about the hangovers too. When I had my eye operation, the pain meds the doctor gave me were ineffective, but pot worked great. I didn't even use enough to get high. It was just enough to kill the pain.

That's what many people don't understand that you may not even get high on cannabis.

There are people that use the oil and rub it on their arthritic joints and it works wonders. And they are not getting high off of it.

You also have to remember that Big Pharma has a massive interest in it as they sell opiate based drugs that are far more expensive, can't be grown at home and far more addictive that cannabis based drugs. And with the recent reports on the rampant use of opiate based painkillers, I would think Big Pharma is pushing for cannabis to be banned. For instance, Pfizer is the maker of Viagra and they make an opioid painkiller. The maker of Cialis, Eli Lilly, also makes an opioid called Tanezumab. We all know how much Viagra and Cialis are plastered everywhere and put in commercials during NFL games ad nauseum. It's naive to think they wouldn't have an interest in shutting down the legalization of marijuana in the league.




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That's what many people don't understand that you may not even get high on cannabis.

There are people that use the oil and rub it on their arthritic joints and it works wonders. And they are not getting high off of it.

You also have to remember that Big Pharma has a massive interest in it as they sell opiate based drugs that are far more expensive, can't be grown at home and far more addictive that cannabis based drugs. And with the recent reports on the rampant use of opiate based painkillers, I would think Big Pharma is pushing for cannabis to be banned. For instance, Pfizer is the maker of Viagra and they make an opioid painkiller. The maker of Cialis, Eli Lilly, also makes an opioid called Tanezumab. We all know how much Viagra and Cialis are plastered everywhere and put in commercials during NFL games ad nauseum. It's naive to think they wouldn't have an interest in shutting down the legalization of marijuana in the league.

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You're spot on. I think at the very least the Federal Government and all states should legalize marijuana for medicinal use. It obviously has therapeutic benefits. Big Pharma has an interest in keeping pot down because it's a drug that cannot be patented. It's been around forever and grows in the ground. IMO the same is true of psilocybin mushrooms. They can treat headaches and depression and grow in the ground. Big Pharma doesn't like people growing their own meds.
 

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You're spot on. I think at the very least the Federal Government and all states should legalize marijuana for medicinal use. It obviously has therapeutic benefits. Big Pharma has an interest in keeping pot down because it's a drug that cannot be patented. It's been around forever and grows in the ground. IMO the same is true of psilocybin mushrooms. They can treat headaches and depression and grow in the ground. Big Pharma doesn't like people growing their own meds.
Mushrooms are awesome, RC!!! (When in the right environment and good state of mind)

I don't smoke herb, have a lot of friends that do, and I challenge anyone to call my battles out for doing so. But I do partake in mushrooms from time to time.
 

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Mushrooms are awesome, RC!!! (When in the right environment and good state of mind)

I don't smoke herb, have a lot of friends that do, and I challenge anyone to call my battles out for doing so. But I do partake in mushrooms from time to time.

I agree with you 100 percent. I don't do shrooms anymore, but I used to aeons ago. They used to put me into super-duper creative mode. I've done creative writing all my life. If I needed to figure out a bizarre ending to a story, mushrooms would bring me amazing and almost spiritual insights to be able to get the job done. Check out the Youtube channel of a Canadian girl named Sarah Richardson. She describes how shrooms helped her beat depression better than any pharmaceuticals ever could. She describes her shroom trips in great detail. I was going, "Yeah, that's what it was like." It completely sucks that our government hates freedom so much that it would stop anyone from doing such a beneficial drug as psilocybin. The Native Americans used them in their spiritual quests. It's a great and amazing medication when used right. Maybe some day our government will legalize freedom and we'll be able to use shrooms with no fear.

Nowadays I use self hypnosis to access super creativity for my writing because it's legal and I don't have to worry about governmental persecution. That's great too, btw, just in a different way.
 

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I agree with you 100 percent. I don't do shrooms anymore, but I used to aeons ago. They used to put me into super-duper creative mode. I've done creative writing all my life. If I needed to figure out a bizarre ending to a story, mushrooms would bring me amazing and almost spiritual insights to be able to get the job done. Check out the Youtube channel of a Canadian girl named Sarah Richardson. She describes how shrooms helped her beat depression better than any pharmaceuticals ever could. She describes her shroom trips in great detail. I was going, "Yeah, that's what it was like." It completely sucks that our government hates freedom so much that it would stop anyone from doing such a beneficial drug as psilocybin. The Native Americans used them in their spiritual quests. It's a great and amazing medication when used right. Maybe some day our government will legalize freedom and we'll be able to use shrooms with no fear.

Nowadays I use self hypnosis to access super creativity for my writing because it's legal and I don't have to worry about governmental persecution. That's great too, btw, just in a different way.

Will check that out pronto, Rev (the Sarah Richardson vids).

Also, in China, they're used to treat urinary tract infection. If you remember, when you would take them, at mid-to-high dosages (above 7g in an evening), that burning desire to urinate? Well, they prescribe it for folks with issues peeing.

I will never give up my mushrooms. I don't do them often, but when I do, I go through about 10-13/14g in an evening. I've had bad experiences, but that was when I was rushing the adventure, rather than waiting for the adventure to beckon to me.

I love that you used it for creative writing, Rev! It sucks that it's so iffy where you're at, out here in California they're commonplace
 

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Will check that out pronto, Rev (the Sarah Richardson vids).

Also, in China, they're used to treat urinary tract infection. If you remember, when you would take them, at mid-to-high dosages (above 7g in an evening), that burning desire to urinate? Well, they prescribe it for folks with issues peeing.

I will never give up my mushrooms. I don't do them often, but when I do, I go through about 10-13/14g in an evening. I've had bad experiences, but that was when I was rushing the adventure, rather than waiting for the adventure to beckon to me.

I love that you used it for creative writing, Rev! It sucks that it's so iffy where you're at, out here in California they're commonplace

Yeah, I quit them when I lived in goose-stepping, fascist Idaho. They completely destroy people's lives over minor crap like a possessing a small bag of pot. I'm in Nebraska now, which MIGHT be better, but I would have to really check it out before considering doing any kind of freedom drug. They're actually legal in Germany in their original form, but it's illegal to dry them (go figure). I never had any kind of bad experience with them. I always took them on a day when I wasn't working and I could create a safe space by meditating deeply for a long time and using uplifting affirmations. Had some amazing experiences, super flashes of wisdom and creativity. Our government sucks that it hates freedom so much. I hear that Canada is probably going to legalize weed in all 10 provinces. Who knows, if they do that, maybe they'll legalize shrooms too. If they do, then I want to go live there.
 
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