NFL Blog: Schefter & Glazer agree Owens not in Dallas in 09

[Chocolate Lab]

Get it goin Willie! :banjo: YEEEE HAW

I have to admit, this is a pretty funny bit you've got going. :laugh2:

 

[Beast_from_East]

Let's see, there are these guys named Jason Witten, Marion Barber, Felix Jones and Miles Austin.

Are you telling me that even an average Offensive Coordinator couldn't work with this group?

Then why did we bother trading for RW11 then???


We had TO and Crayton as our two starting WRs and everbody was saying the problem was TO was getting doubled and Crayton could not get any seperation.

So we had to trade our 1,3, and 6th to Detroit for RW11 on the basis this would open up the passing game.

Now I am being told we can get rid of TO and RW11 and Crayton can be our two starters. But arent we back where we were now???


I guess I dont understand how TO and Crayton combo would not work but a RW11 and Crayton combo can work.

 

[Idgit]

Then why did we bother trading for RW11 then???


We had TO and Crayton as our two starting WRs and everbody was saying the problem was TO was getting doubled and Crayton could not get any seperation.

So we had to trade our 1,3, and 6th to Detroit for RW11 on the basis this would open up the passing game.

Now I am being told we can get rid of TO and RW11 and Crayton can be our two starters. But arent we back where we were now???


I guess I dont understand how TO and Crayton combo would not work but a RW11 and Crayton combo can work.

I don't agree that we traded for RW b/c Crayton couldn't get separation, but the reason for backsliding to the combo of RW and Crayton is that, while it will end up likely being a weaker corps than TO and Crayton were last year, it'd be a better combination than any combination that includes TO. We'd be cutting losses and agreeing to go with a less talented position group guessing that keeping TO would be detrimental to the team. That's a reasonable conclusion whether it's right or not.

We made the move for Roy, though, b/c we knew we could double-up at WR this season, use our draft pick early, and still have the player we wanted to replace an aging TO down the road. The plan probably included having Austin develop as a long-term #2. I think Austin could be our Greg Jennings if he gets enough playing time this year and can stay healthy, so I'm more sanguine than most about letting TO walk and the chips fall where they may. I'm more worried about depth than anything if we go that route.

 

[1fisher]

Then why did we bother trading for RW11 then???


We had TO and Crayton as our two starting WRs and everbody was saying the problem was TO was getting doubled and Crayton could not get any seperation.

So we had to trade our 1,3, and 6th to Detroit for RW11 on the basis this would open up the passing game.

Now I am being told we can get rid of TO and RW11 and Crayton can be our two starters. But arent we back where we were now???


I guess I dont understand how TO and Crayton combo would not work but a RW11 and Crayton combo can work.

There are teams out there that do more with less. We played a couple of those teams this year!

 

[ddh33]

Receivers are overrated. More than any other position, they are depending on everyone else doing their jobs well. Not coincidentally, when the other guys do their jobs well, those receivers usually look good - no matter who the receiver is.

Miami won a lot of games with Greg Camarillo, Davone Bess, and Ted Ginn as their receiving threats. Anthony Fasano caught a bunch of TDs for them, and he couldn't do that here...

The Ravens beat the Cowboys with a rookie QB, a one-armed receiver, and Mark Clayton.

The Chargers made a big push with Vincent Jackson, Chris Chambers not making an impact, and Legandu Naane.

But if someone wants to tell me that Dallas can't win with Jason Witten, Roy Williams, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton, Martellus Bennett, Felix Jones, Marion Barber, and Tashard Choice, go ahead.

I have no doubt that TO is a very good player - maybe even great, depending on your definiton. I know he scores points. I know he can get you a 1000 yards a year. But he is a headache. He's a burden on his QB, his coaches, and the entire franchise. The fact that he has so much sway in the lockerroom in only more reason to get rid of him.

 

[1fisher]

Receivers are overrated. More than any other position, they are depending on everyone else doing their jobs well. Not coincidentally, when the other guys do their jobs well, those receivers usually look good - no matter who the receiver is.

Miami won a lot of games with Greg Camarillo, Davone Bess, and Ted Ginn as their receiving threats. Anthony Fasano caught a bunch of TDs for them, and he couldn't do that here...

The Ravens beat the Cowboys with a rookie QB, a one-armed receiver, and Mark Clayton.

The Chargers made a big push with Vincent Jackson, Chris Chambers not making an impact, and Legandu Naane.

But if someone wants to tell me that Dallas can't win with Jason Witten, Roy Williams, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton, Martellus Bennett, Felix Jones, Marion Barber, and Tashard Choice, go ahead.

I have no doubt that TO is a very good player - maybe even great, depending on your definiton. I know he scores points. I know he can get you a 1000 yards a year. But he is a headache. He's a burden on his QB, his coaches, and the entire franchise. The fact that he has so much sway in the lockerroom in only more reason to get rid of him.

That's exactly what I was saying in my post earlier.... I said it with fewer words... Other teams do MORE with LESS!

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Then why did we bother trading for RW11 then???


We had TO and Crayton as our two starting WRs and everbody was saying the problem was TO was getting doubled and Crayton could not get any seperation.

So we had to trade our 1,3, and 6th to Detroit for RW11 on the basis this would open up the passing game.

Now I am being told we can get rid of TO and RW11 and Crayton can be our two starters. But arent we back where we were now???


I guess I dont understand how TO and Crayton combo would not work but a RW11 and Crayton combo can work.

While I'm not firmly entrenched on a side on the T.O. debate, I would offer a scenario pertaining to your question. One of T.O.'s biggest issues last season was getting off the jam. Roy #11 does not have the Jets that T.O. has, but he is much better at getting of of Jams and fighting for the ball (i.e., a more prototypical possession receiver). So, perhaps Roy #11 lining up next to Miles Austin as your deep threat would be better for scheming than the combination of TO and Crayton.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Then why did we bother trading for RW11 then???


We had TO and Crayton as our two starting WRs and everbody was saying the problem was TO was getting doubled and Crayton could not get any seperation.

So we had to trade our 1,3, and 6th to Detroit for RW11 on the basis this would open up the passing game.

Now I am being told we can get rid of TO and RW11 and Crayton can be our two starters. But arent we back where we were now???


I guess I dont understand how TO and Crayton combo would not work but a RW11 and Crayton combo can work.

First, you assume that Jason Garrett is an "average" Offensive Coordinator. Jason Garrett has proven that he is in over his head and has been criticized by players on and off the roster for his hackneyed Offensive Schemes. You hand an offense with Tony Romo, Marion Barber, Felix Jones, Terrell Owens, Roy Williams and Jason Witten to a "compotent" Offensive Coordinator, this offense would be alot better.

Furthermore, Jerry Jones has stated on numerous occassions that the main reason he made the trade for Roy Williams is that he felt he couldn't get a better Wide Receiver in the Draft.

 

[khiladi]

Wow... you mean the stastitics indicate that TO doesn't cause QBs do regress... SO who caused Romo to regress this year then?

 

[zeromaster]

Well if Owens isn't gone, I'm confident Shefter and Glazer will have some spin to cover themselves.

 

[EPL0c0]

Owens, 35, failed to meet statistical expectations last season

Wow...if that be the measure, then I guess Witten's gonna be a FFL bust next year too since he had less receptions, less yards and less touchdowns than 20087.

It's easy to point at the stat sheet and say "See!" But taking a shot at Owens while not telling how the offense struggled as a whole is pretty pathetic.

Dallas QBs threw 20INts to 28Tds. Not a good ratio. Include lost fumbles, the Dallas QBs turned the ball over 27times to 28 TDs. Thankfully there were 8 fumbles that were not lost, though I'm sure those didn't do much to keep a drive going.

The article reads like another application for the Owens hatewagon membership club.

 

[dcfanatic]

Seriously fellas, what has TO done that is so bad that he has to be released for team chemistry???


He is not the guy that leaked any info, he has not openly critized players to the media, so what has he done that is so terrible he has to go, besides wanting the ball???


I mean, doesnt alot of players in the league want the ball and get frustrated when they dont??? (See Portis throwing Zorn under the bus, is Washington going to cut Portis for sake of team chemistry???)


I guess in all seriousness, somebody please explain to me what TO has done that is so terrible that he has to be released considering his production 38 TDs over the past 3 seasons.


Why are we willing to give up that type of production for the sake of team chemistry???...........Seriously, can somebody give me a logical reason besides you just dont like him that we have to get rid of that type of production for the sake of team chemistry......

He's not a very good blogger.

One post in like a month? That is horrible.

 

[BHendri5]

Those two, you have got to be kidding me, one is always wrong, and the other is always wronger LOL.
Wrong and wronger lol

Numbers? don't be asinine.

 

[Clove]

Seems like the stalker is at it again, unfortunately for him, his heart may be broken since Jerry is going to do what he wants and not what dcStalker wants.

 

[newlander]

I don't put alot of stock into what Schefter says: he's right about 50-60% of the time. But I trust Glazer and his sources. Adios "Me-O"

 

[Texan_Eph89]

Of course they would say something like that.
DRAMA!

The cowboys cannot afford dropping Owens after the huge contract from last year, besides who is willing to pick up his paycheck and his nonsense right now (especially since his numbers are down).

T.O. is a great receiver but he makes everything far more complicated than it has to be. Right now, T.O. is more or less untouchable. I mean, if we can trade some sucker for a great deal then I wouldn't mind.

 

[1fisher]

Of course they would say something like that.
DRAMA!

The cowboys cannot afford dropping Owens after the huge contract from last year, besides who is willing to pick up his paycheck and his nonsense right now (especially since his numbers are down).

T.O. is a great receiver but he makes everything far more complicated than it has to be. Right now, T.O. is more or less untouchable. I mean, if we can trade some sucker for a great deal then I wouldn't mind.

If we cut him he's a free agent... why would another team have to pick up his paycheck?

He's NOT untouchable! Bleu Star will try to make you believe that, however.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

He just counts for that 600 extra K this year, and then completely off the books in 2010 right??