NFL.com 2016 Draft Do-Over. who's #1? bigger surprise is who's #2?

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-nfl-draft-doover-rams-pick-dak-prescott-no-1

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And Fisher would have sat him for the season just as he did with Steve Mcnair and Jared Goff.

I can't be too critical myself... I was one of those whining that we really couldn't take seriously this idea of going into 2016 with Dak as Tony's primary back-up after all we went through in 2015... be glad I'm not the GM, cause I almost certainly would have overpaid for Foles, and let Dak sit for at least a year.
 

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Zeke would have helped any team but the Eagles needed a QB more than a RB and San Diego needed Bosa. Zeke is better than Bosa or Wentz but it's a re-do of what teams need not just a ranking of best players.

Maybe. But if Brooks sees Wentz as a future franchise QB and Bosa as a dominant pass rushing RDE, there's good reason to rank them ahead of Zeke, regardless of need. On almost all, if not all, teams (the Cowboys may be an exception) dominant players at those positions can just be expected to add more value over the course of their career than a dominant RB. In any case, you stand a better chance of getting a dominant RB later in the draft.
 

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Maybe. But if Brooks sees Wentz as a future franchise QB and Bosa as a dominant pass rushing RDE, there's good reason to rank them ahead of Zeke, regardless of need. On almost all, if not all, teams (the Cowboys may be an exception) dominant players at those positions can just be expected to add more value over the course of their career than a dominant RB. In any case, you stand a better chance of getting a dominant RB later in the draft.

I was arguing that San Diego nor Philly needed Zeke as much as the guys they took, so we're saying basically the same thing.
 

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Back up. At the time of the draft, PHI still had a QB of some regard in their stable. And by definition, this is a "knowing what you know now" draft.

Nah.

I grant you that it's a worthy discussion, but I still come down to this: Bradford with Zeke behind him > Wentz with RB by committee behind him.

You just don't know that Wentz is going to prove to be that much better than Bradford, whereas you know as much as it is possible to know anything right now that Zeke is going to be among the top RBs for many years to come.
 

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Come to think of it... a truer re-draft would totally back-up to the original draft order. The trades that occurred only occurred b/c TEN and CLE were selling, and LA and PHI decided the QBs up there were worth the price.

So, that then flips everything around.

TEN already has Mariota, so reason demands that Zeke is their #1 pick after all.

CLE, then, selects Dak.
 

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Come to think of it... a truer re-draft would totally back-up to the original draft order. The trades that occurred only occurred b/c TEN and CLE were selling, and LA and PHI decided the QBs up there were worth the price.

So, that then flips everything around.

TEN already has Mariota, so reason demands that Zeke is their #1 pick after all.

CLE, then, selects Dak.

And Tennessee has Demarco and drafted Henry (whom they liked all along) so no they still trade it and Dak goes #1.
 

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And Tennessee has Demarco and drafted Henry (whom they liked all along) so no they still trade it and Dak goes #1.

True, they did sign Murray in March, ahead of the draft... but again, this is the "knowing what you know now" draft... and knowing in March that the 1st pick was theirs and knowing what Zeke brings to the table... nah... they'd pass on Demarco for sure and take Zeke #1.
 

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If Dak was drafted by the Rams and played, none of these things would be written about Dak this year.

He landed in quarterback heaven in Dallas.
Yep Dak was lucky to come to a place with good coaching and good personnel management....

Does not change his mental make up and work ethic though.
 

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You could make a case that Maleik Collins and Anthony Brown could sneek into the first in a redraft

If they held a redraft after the season, they doesnt make it to 50
 
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