News: NFL: Jerry Jones: Cowboys gave Rodgers too much time

[Sydla]

Wait..What?
So you would have no problem is instead of the fade they would have ran the ball and scored on that play?
And you would have no problem if they would have ran play action and scored on that play instead of the fade?
So then the Packers would have gotten the ball back with a few more seconds on the clock and still had their TO and this would be Ok as long as you agreed with the play call?

It's like you purposely just play dumb so as to defend your boy.

Yes, the play call is the issue here. If they run another dive and Elliott scores, that's the breaks. If you run a play action pass that results in a very easy, higher percentage TD pass, those are the breaks.

When you call up a stupid fade pattern that has a high probability of being incomplete given historical percentages that will give the Packers a much needed free timeout, that's not bad luck. That's stupidity on your part. Anyone with a brain can see that. My god, the coaching staff knew they had to milk the clock with runs and high percentage pass plays. And they did for like 8 minutes before they went stupid and called a low percentage play that historically falls incomplete............ and gee, guess what, it fell incomplete and gave the Packers a free timeout. Damn, who couldn't have seen that coming?????

I would have ran Elliott again there, personally.

 

[Stash]

They all agreed that our defense is so bad that asking for 1 stop was too much.
When someone asks if we are leaving too much time on the clock they are not bashing the coaches play calling. They all understand you don't just get to pick the exact play would will score on...its not even a given you score a TD.
What they all saying what is obvious....We have the 4th worst defense in the league in points allowed and we may not be able to stop them... This is not them criticizing a 9 minute scoring drive for the go ahead TD like you wish it was. And when its commentators they are building drama because that is a part of their jobs.

Look again.

All areas are criticizing that stupid play call.

The only eyes you can cover are your own.

 

[Sydla]

It's simply intellectual laziness to sit here and cite total points scored versus given up to excuse what a horrendously bad call that was.

Some people are just so far in the Garrett tank, they just can't admit what's becoming painfully obvious.

 

[Hawkeye19]

It's like you purposely just play dumb so as to defend your boy.

Yes, the play call is the issue here. If they run another dive and Elliott scores, that's the breaks. If you run a play action pass that results in a very easy, higher percentage TD pass, those are the breaks.

When you call up a stupid fade pattern that has a high probability of being incomplete given historical percentages that will give the Packers a much needed free timeout, that's not bad luck. That's stupidity on your part.

I would have ran Elliott again there, personally.

100% correct.

You run Zeke, or Dak slides and they get 4 downs to score a TD while draining more clock. Or Williams catches a ball that hits his hands and we don't give up a pick 6. Or we score points in the 3rd quarter.

We had to have harmonious multiple errors occur to lose this game-- and we seem to find a way to do that consistently on the biggest stages and in the biggest moments. Something started way back in that infamous playoff loss in Seattle with all the errors in that game. People remember the Romo bobbled snap-- but IMO-- the Terry Glenn fumble, safety, and defensive meltdown on the Hawks next drive were what was more inexcusable in that game.

 

[RomoFor6]

Im to the point where we just need to blitz the guy every other play.

Especially when we have a lead.

Bend but don't break will not work against this QB.


Man, Press, Blitz... Rinse and repeat.

That works when you have Talib and Harris playing corner.... not when you have Brown and Scandrick

 

[superonyx]

It's simply intellectual laziness to sit here and cite total points scored versus given up to excuse what a horrendously bad call that was.

Some people are just so far in the Garrett tank, they just can't admit what's becoming painfully obvious.

I've personally have never been a JG supporter. Never. Going back to when we hired him and the ravens wanted him. So that attempt to cluster people into groups fails miserably here.
You are so anti JG that you keep making nonsense statements in an effort to spew venom his way. You talk about the play call and fail to realize that JG doesn't even call plays. That was taken from him by Jerry also.

Whats becoming painfully obvious is our defense will continuously let us down. Since you want to blame garrett for everything then I guess by the same goofy logic we need to give him credit for having an offense that kept the defense off the field last year and kept them from looking as bad as they really are.

 

[mahoneybill]

On a second and one, followed by a third and one, it is not a high risk play..

Your argument of percentages doesn't take into account the formations a fade is thrown against..

Dallas could have been playing for the first down on the third to force GB into a timeout.. but the read option fooled that whole defense..

Thing of beauty to see the coordination between Dak and Zeke. It really looked like he handed the ball off to Zeke, and then boom he's in the end zone.

Well done Dak. Hope that your career doesn't become Tony Romo ReDux....

 

[superonyx]

Look again.

All areas are criticizing that stupid play call.

The only eyes you can cover are your own.

No they are not. They are using hindsight at best and saying since the defense didn't stop Rodgers lets just pretend we could have scored whenever we wanted at will and then with all of this we can criticize a play call while ignoring all the uncontrollable variables.

 

[Stash]

No they are not. They are using hindsight at best and saying since the defense didn't stop Rodgers lets just pretend we could have scored whenever we wanted at will and then with all of this we can criticize a play call while ignoring all the uncontrollable variables.

It's not hindsight when it was criticized when it happened. And it absolutely was.

But you keep on trying...



The only person "ignoring" anything here is you. Stop trying to defend an indefensible screw-up. You're just wasting time and effort.

 

[superonyx]

It's not hindsight when it was criticized when it happened. And it absolutely was.

But you keep on trying...



The only person "ignoring" anything here is you. Stop trying to defend an indefensible screw-up. You're just wasting time and effort.

Stop trying to redirect attention away from the areas we should be focusing on that will make the team better just to forward your agenda.

 

[Idgit]

It was a terrible play call. Yes, the offense needs to score on that drive, but at that situation, you have two objectives: drain the clock, make sure you score. They did a great job on that drive, overall. Took a ton of time, managed to do it almost entirely running the ball, scored the necessary points at the end, and as Dak said, 'put the pressure on 12.' But in that situation, you've got multiple downs to score, you run the ball and drain more clock, period. It was a mistake.

It's a shame, too, because they did a good job pretty much the entire rest of the game. This was the best the Cowboys have looked all season, really.

 

[kevm3]

It's simply intellectual laziness to sit here and cite total points scored versus given up to excuse what a horrendously bad call that was.

Some people are just so far in the Garrett tank, they just can't admit what's becoming painfully obvious.

exactly. we had a better defense last year and we were put in the exact same situation with aaron rodgers. Gave him time and he lit us up at the end. You would think they would learn from that. Two guys you don't leave time on the clock for are Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. Unless you have an elite defense, more times than not, you aren't stopping them, and even if you have that elite defense, you might not stop them. There wasn't any reason to throw a pass on 2nd and 2.

 

[Stash]

Stop trying to redirect attention away from the areas we should be focusing on that will make the team better just to forward your agenda.

Practice what you're preaching.

Don't try (and fail) to absolve the offensive coordinator of rightful blame because the defense was even worse.

Neither failure is mutually exclusive and both combined to give this team yet another loss. Open your eyes, don't try to close someone else's.

 

[Stash]

exactly. we had a better defense last year and we were put in the exact same situation with aaron rodgers. Gave him time and he lit us up at the end. You would think they would learn from that. Two guys you don't leave time on the clock for are Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. Unless you have an elite defense, more times than not, you aren't stopping them, and even if you have that elite defense, you might not stop them. There wasn't any reason to throw a pass on 2nd and 2.

It's basic situational football stuff. But it somehow eludes this coaching staff. And they've gotten a free pass with people looking the other way for far too long. That needs to end.

 

[DogFace]

Any novice Madden player knows not to pass on that down and distance with over a minute left.

So stupid.

Thanks coaches for starting the longest two weeks in my life.

 

[MRV52]

200 million doesn't buy you a consistent defense. Look at the Giants, great last year and this year that defense is Meh.

 

[TheHerd]

That works when you have Talib and Harris playing corner.... not when you have Brown and Scandrick

Then let if fail and give them a quick TD. At least that would give Dak a chance to re-win the game. What we do now have ZERO chance of working.

 

[TheHerd]

200 million doesn't buy you a consistent defense. Look at the Giants, great last year and this year that defense is Meh.

We'd win with that meh defense.

 

[wssaustin]

The fact it worked in the first half is meaningless. It doesn't change the fact that it's a high risk play. Look at the stats, it's a pass play that doesn't have a strong completion percentage league wide.

They spent the ENTIRE DRIVE purposely working the clock. Nothing by runs, short passes and letting the play clock run down to almost zero. They were methodical and slow on purpose. They had just run for 8-9 yards on first down.

And then they go brain dead and throw a pass that historically has a high percentage of being INCOMPLETE and gee, guess what happens? It falls incomplete and gives the Packers a free timeout. They had THREE downs to get two yards. It wasn't like they were in a 2nd and 10 or a 3rd and 10 and at that point were behind the chains and in a tough spot. They were in an ideal spot to run clock and still have more than enough time to score a TD and keep Rodgers standing there with the towel around his neck.

Anyone defending that call needs their head examined. It's classic Garrett/Linehan paralysis by overanalysis.

Can't agree more with this. We were taking our time for that entire drive yet in the end we forgot about clock management. The last drive we need a TD, had we score sooner we can still get the ball back for one more time.

We had 2-minute warning right before, I am wondering what were they talking about during the break, why clock-management was not emphasized? This kind of dumb mistakes are beyond tolerable.

 

[MRV52]

We'd win with that meh defense.

I still say Rodgers would have fried that NY defense. Landon Collins and Apple look like busts this year. Thier run D is not very good especially on outside runs. JPP after his big payday has gone MIA.