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[DFWJC]

My comments were not a diss to Tony Romo. My comments were actual opinion on how it came across to me, that Romo's peers, outside of a politician like Peyton Manning, I don't think they respected him. I personally don't care how they felt about him. It's a FACT that Ben went out his way to criticize Romo a few years back(forget it was about) Its a fact that Ben walked off the field after Romo beat him in 2012 without shaking hand with him. Upset about losing to that team or that QB? I took it as the latter.

I don't count Eli Manning or Drew Bree's in that group, I should've kept it to Ben and Aaron Rodgers.

Back to ignored status you go

A little history lesson for the people. Butt clown >> Dfw(or whatever)

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/what...arted-16-games-this-year.355240/#post-6780378... Scroll up!!! I give him more beat downs if you want to see it!

Dream on

If Dak had had 24 tds and 16 ints (or 4x what he had) 8-8 wouldve been in cards.
We won 7 games last year by a TD o less. I think an additional 12 ints with the same TDs would've been brutal.

My point was dead on.

Instead, he was way better to our great fortune

 

[plasticman]

I honestly question if you are familiar with this list and the structure.

This is very much part historical and part projection.

These players pick and choose each year, their favorites. There has been no consistency nor integrity to it.

If you had paid attention to all of them and recognized that it is kind of a silly space filler they do every offseason to keep discussion going, I have no idea what to tell you.

What we have here is a good affirmation, I guess.

Dak Prescott is popular with his peers.

Go Cowboys!

Every single sentence we all write is space filler, it's why we are here, to keep the discussion growing but none of us are experts, we all give our opinions as fans based on our observations.

Based on my observations I think that Dak Prescott will be in the running for league MVP in 2017, I believe him to be that good. He surpassed every expectation his rookie year, every week it was a new challenge, "no rookie can do this".....he did it.

Dak wasn't all rookie....he was a Pro Bowler...

Only 9 rookie QB's made the Pro Bowl in the past 30 seasons. Five of them were a top 3 pick overall.

Teams and analysts and fans have all kinds of excuses why a 4th round pick had a record setting season and led his team to the best record in the conference. Now it's supposed to be more difficult because now they have tape of him? A rookie? That was their problem?

It was the offensive line or the running game or the Pro Bowl receivers? Because no other rookie QB in history had such an advantage? LOL, If I had paid attention?

Yes, I believe that Dak is higher than the 14th best player in the NFL right now and this coming season, in addition to many more to come, will prove it.

 

[DFWJC]

Every single sentence we all write is space filler, it's why we are here, to keep the discussion growing but none of us are experts, we all give our opinions as fans based on our observations.

Based on my observations I think that Dak Prescott will be in the running for league MVP in 2017, I believe him to be that good. He surpassed every expectation his rookie year, every week it was a new challenge, "no rookie can do this".....he did it.

Dak wasn't all rookie....he was a Pro Bowler...

Only 9 rookie QB's made the Pro Bowl in the past 30 seasons. Five of them were a top 3 pick overall.

Teams and analysts and fans have all kinds of excuses why a 4th round pick had a record setting season and led his team to the best record in the conference. Now it's supposed to be more difficult because now they have tape of him? A rookie? That was their problem?

It was the offensive line or the running game or the Pro Bowl receivers? Because no other rookie QB in history had such an advantage? LOL, If I had paid attention?

Yes, I believe that Dak is higher than the 14th best player in the NFL right now and this coming season, in addition to many more to come, will prove it.

At this stage in his career, you think Dak is BETTER than the 14th best player in the entire league?

Honest question. Is that what you're saying?
That this poll underrated Dak?

 

[Gameover]

Dream on

If Dak had had 24 tds and 16 ints (or 4x what he had) 8-8 wouldve been in cards.
We won 7 games last year by a TD o less. I think an additional 12 ints with the same TDs would've been brutal.

My point was dead on.

Instead, he was way better to our great fortune

What are you talking about? You trying to rewrite history? You were dead wrong! Where is he getting an additional 12 int's from? Even if he did have more int, you don't know how those games play out or the context in which the int occur.

You had the team going 7-9 because of poor defense, I told you the defense was basically irrelevant because the O had too much talent.

And now you come to the conclusion that your right?

... please!

More prophets that came to past...

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-prescott-is-starting-mega-thread.355059/page-4#post-6775475

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-prescott-is-starting-mega-thread.355059/page-4#post-6775378

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/cowboys-record-prediction-time.354958/page-6#post-6774150 Scroll up

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/what-if-dak-starts-the-season-6-2.355018/#post-6773975


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/cowboys-record-prediction-time.354958/page-4#post-6773115


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/what-about-dak-should-really-excite-us.353898/#post-6752379


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/is-romo-going-to-play.353727/page-3#post-6748241... nailed it.. though I meant in a meaningful capacity


They'll say it's because of his back, but did any team kick the tires on Romo?

Nobody wanted the bum!

 

[Gameover]

What are you talking about? You trying to rewrite history? You were dead wrong! Where is he getting an additional 12 int's from? Even if he did have more int, you don't know how those games play out or the context in which the int occur.

You had the team going 7-9 because of poor defense, I told you the defense was basically irrelevant because the O had too much talent.

And now you come to the conclusion that your right?

... please!

More prophets that came to past...

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-prescott-is-starting-mega-thread.355059/page-4#post-6775475

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-prescott-is-starting-mega-thread.355059/page-4#post-6775378

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/cowboys-record-prediction-time.354958/page-6#post-6774150 Scroll up

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/what-if-dak-starts-the-season-6-2.355018/#post-6773975


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/cowboys-record-prediction-time.354958/page-4#post-6773115


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/what-about-dak-should-really-excite-us.353898/#post-6752379


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/is-romo-going-to-play.353727/page-3#post-6748241... nailed it.. though I meant in a meaningful capacity


They'll say it's because of his back, but did any team kick the tires on Romo?

Nobody wanted the bum!

My point: Dak had a pretty high number of fumbles lost. I believe 5?

Wouldn't you say a fumble lost is equal to a INT? Add his int to his fumbles lost I believe that total would be 10?

They beat Pittsburgh by less than a TD. Dak had a fumble lost in that game. Some how the team was able to win a close game, on the road vs a good team, despite a turnover from the quarterback

A turnover that lead to at least 3 points.

 

[plasticman]

At this stage in his career, you think Dak is BETTER than the 14th best player in the entire league?

Honest question. Is that what you're saying?
That this poll underrated Dak?

Absolutely!

I have seen a lot of quarterbacks come and go in this league and when you compare Dak's rookie season to every single one of their's, none of them played better. Not only did Dak outperform them in terms of QB rating, he set a record for most attempts before first career INT, and he quarterbacked the team to a franchise record 11 consecutive victories.

And think about this:

It took a miracle play by a top ten player on that list, a ten year veteran, future Hall of Fame, Super Bowl MVP quarterback in the final seconds of a division round playoff game to prevent Dak from bringing the Cowboys back from 18 points down in the 4th quarter and taking them to their first conference championship game in 22 years.

In the 4th quarter of that playoff game, under the most challenging and pressure packed circumstances of the entire season that would test the poise of any veteran, experienced QB, Dak was 10-14-110YDS-2TD for a rating of 135.7. One incomplete was a spiked ball.

Why would anyone consider him less than a top ten when LAST SEASON, there was serious discussion towards consideration for league MVP, the BEST player in the entire league as a rookie? He was on the short list along with four others, all who appeared top 11 on this list. I am pretty certain three of them, Brady, Ryan and Rodgers, are in the top 5, the other was Carr at #11.

Carr was also the recipient of a great offensive line with three Pro Bowlers and a Pro Bowl WR in Amani Cooper but you don't hear anyone using that fact to diminish his personal contribution to the success of the team.

 

[Iago33]

It's sarcasm. And people over 18 employ it and generously,I might add. It's a huge component of comedy. And, quite frankly, it can be refreshing if you know how to interpret it, and if your life isn't spent walking around with a stick up your butt.

Hey! I come from a long line of people with sticks up their butts, and I don't appreciate you talking about us like that!

 

[DFWJC]

Absolutely!

I have seen a lot of quarterbacks come and go in this league and when you compare Dak's rookie season to every single one of their's, none of them played better. Not only did Dak outperform them in terms of QB rating, he set a record for most attempts before first career INT, and he quarterbacked the team to a franchise record 11 consecutive victories.

And think about this:

It took a miracle play by a top ten player on that list, a ten year veteran, future Hall of Fame, Super Bowl MVP quarterback in the final seconds of a division round playoff game to prevent Dak from bringing the Cowboys back from 18 points down in the 4th quarter and taking them to their first conference championship game in 22 years.

In the 4th quarter of that playoff game, under the most challenging and pressure packed circumstances of the entire season that would test the poise of any veteran, experienced QB, Dak was 10-14-110YDS-2TD for a rating of 135.7. One incomplete was a spiked ball.

Why would anyone consider him less than a top ten when LAST SEASON, there was serious discussion towards consideration for league MVP, the BEST player in the entire league as a rookie? He was on the short list along with four others, all who appeared top 11 on this list. I am pretty certain three of them, Brady, Ryan and Rodgers, are in the top 5, the other was Carr at #11.

Carr was also the recipient of a great offensive line with three Pro Bowlers and a Pro Bowl WR in Amani Cooper but you don't hear anyone using that fact to diminish his personal contribution to the success of the team.

Just asking

 

[DFWJC]

What are you talking about? You trying to rewrite history? You were dead wrong! Where is he getting an additional 12 int's from? Even if he did have more int, you don't know how those games play out or the context in which the int occur.

You had the team going 7-9 because of poor defense, I told you the defense was basically irrelevant because the O had too much talent.

And now you come to the conclusion that your right?

... please!

More prophets that came to past...

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-prescott-is-starting-mega-thread.355059/page-4#post-6775475

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-prescott-is-starting-mega-thread.355059/page-4#post-6775378

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/cowboys-record-prediction-time.354958/page-6#post-6774150 Scroll up

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/what-if-dak-starts-the-season-6-2.355018/#post-6773975


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/cowboys-record-prediction-time.354958/page-4#post-6773115


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/what-about-dak-should-really-excite-us.353898/#post-6752379


http://cowboyszone.com/threads/is-romo-going-to-play.353727/page-3#post-6748241... nailed it.. though I meant in a meaningful capacity


They'll say it's because of his back, but did any team kick the tires on Romo?

Nobody wanted the bum!

Hey, Im thrilled about Dak.
Love the kid.

My beef with you has always been how nasty and disrespecful you've always been with Romo.
Youre relentless at taking cheap shots at the guy. Have been doing it for years.

Btw, You were right about once Dak got rolling Tony would not see the field again. It took me way into the season before I'd acknowledge that.

I really like Dak though, so it certainly was nothing against him.

As for the scenario wirh 16 ints. My later point was if he had that many ints with still only 24 TDs, some or most of thos 7 close wins would not have been wins. No way to know for sure. But that was the point.
Dak would need to be way better than 24/16 for us to win like we did, with our defense.
He was...along wirh the league leading rusher...so the result was really strong. Plus the D was slightly better than expected, though still the weak link.

Anyway, I agree with you on the "ignore"
Pretty harmless if we agree to mutually ignore each other. Probably better for the forum too.

If you will agree on ignore, I'm up for it. Just let me know.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Hey, Im thrilled about Dak.
Love the kid.

My beef with you has always been how nasty and disrespecful you've always been with Romo.
Youre relentless at taking cheap shots at the guy. Have been doing it for years.

Btw, You were right about once Dak got rolling Tony would not see the field again. It took me way into the season before I'd acknowledge that.

I really like Dak though, so it certainly was nothing against him.

As for the scenario wirh 16 ints. My later point was if he had that many ints with still only 24 TDs, some or most of thos 7 close wins would not have been wins. No way to know for sure. But that was the point.
Dak would need to be way better than 24/16 for us to win like we did, with our defense.
He was...along wirh the league leading rusher...so the result was really strong. Plus the D was slightly better than expected, though still the weak link.

Anyway, I agree with you on the "ignore"
Pretty harmless if we agree to mutually ignore each other. Probably better for the forum too.

If you will agree on ignore, I'm up for it. Just let me know.

Pay no attention to the Gameover troll. Anyone can make a bunch of stupid predictions and then come back to point them out, safe in the knowledge that no one will remember them when they were wrong. When there's no consequence to being wrong, throw anything to the wall and see if it sticks.
If he also came back and highlighted all of the times his inane predictions were wrong, it would cause this site's database to crash.

 

[DFWJC]

Pay no attention to the Gameover troll. Anyone can make a bunch of stupid predictions and then come back to point them out, safe in the knowledge that no one will remember them when they were wrong. When there's no consequence to being wrong, throw anything to the wall and see if it sticks.
If he also came back and highlighted all of the times his inane predictions were wrong, it would cause this site's database to crash.

No doubt.

Still as rare as I've ever used the ignore function (say hello ufc...lol) it might not be a bad idea if both gameover and noshame did a mutually ignore with me.

The only time I ever get bent out of shape is from stuff they (and sometimes Clove...but I agree with a lot on other non-qb things) throw out...and even then only after it reaches a saturation point.
I'm a pretty happy dude otherwise.

So out of respect for site, the mutually ignore may be good.

 

[Trouty]

No doubt.

Still as rare as I've ever used the ignore function (say hello ufc...lol) it might not be a bad idea if both gameover and noshame did a mutually ignore with me.

The only time I ever get bent out of shape is from stuff they (and sometimes Clove...but I agree with a lot on other non-qb things) throw out...and even then only after it reaches a saturation point.
I'm a pretty happy dude otherwise.

So out of respect for site, the mutually ignore may be good.

Anyone ignoring you, JC, has issues. You're one of the most affable posters on this site.

I'd seriously question anyone who needs to go that far with you. Just my $.02

 

[DFWJC]

Anyone ignoring you, JC, has issues. You're one of the most affable posters on this site.

I'd seriously question anyone who needs to go that far with you. Just my $.02

Thanks Trouty.

Part of its me though.
I may actually want to be on mutually ignore with a couple of posters who bring out the worst in me.
Thats as much to benefit me and the site as it is against them

Kind of like locking the tequila in a closet from someone who's at their worst when exposed to it

 

[Trouty]

Thanks Trouty.

Part of its me though.
I may actually want to be on mutually ignore with a couple of posters who bring out the worst in me.
Thats as much to benefit me and the site as it is against them

Kind of like locking the tequila in a closet from someone who's at their worst when exposed to it

I still don't like that you have to be put in that situation, my friend. But you know yourself better than me, obviously

 

[DFWJC]

I still don't like that you have to be put in that situation, my friend. But you know yourself better than me, obviously

I have your back do, brother.

 

[dallasdave]

Anyone ignoring you, JC, has issues. You're one of the most affable posters on this site.

I'd seriously question anyone who needs to go that far with you. Just my $.02

Well said indeed sir !!!!

 

[dallasdave]

I have your back do, brother.

YOur the best

 

[JJHLH1]

Absolutely!

I have seen a lot of quarterbacks come and go in this league and when you compare Dak's rookie season to every single one of their's, none of them played better. Not only did Dak outperform them in terms of QB rating, he set a record for most attempts before first career INT, and he quarterbacked the team to a franchise record 11 consecutive victories.

And think about this:

It took a miracle play by a top ten player on that list, a ten year veteran, future Hall of Fame, Super Bowl MVP quarterback in the final seconds of a division round playoff game to prevent Dak from bringing the Cowboys back from 18 points down in the 4th quarter and taking them to their first conference championship game in 22 years.

In the 4th quarter of that playoff game, under the most challenging and pressure packed circumstances of the entire season that would test the poise of any veteran, experienced QB, Dak was 10-14-110YDS-2TD for a rating of 135.7. One incomplete was a spiked ball.

Why would anyone consider him less than a top ten when LAST SEASON, there was serious discussion towards consideration for league MVP, the BEST player in the entire league as a rookie? He was on the short list along with four others, all who appeared top 11 on this list. I am pretty certain three of them, Brady, Ryan and Rodgers, are in the top 5, the other was Carr at #11.

Carr was also the recipient of a great offensive line with three Pro Bowlers and a Pro Bowl WR in Amani Cooper but you don't hear anyone using that fact to diminish his personal contribution to the success of the team.

I agree 100%. Very well said.

 

[dallasdave]

I agree 100%. Very well said.

 

[plasticman]

Just asking

Hey, no problem and thanks for the question.

Anytime I have an opinion that I post, I should be willing to explain my reasoning and either provide supporting data or some logical explanation.