NFL Players and Broken Ankles

CalPolyTechnique

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It’s not limited to just the NFL. All of the guys on this video had their ankles broken but are still playing in the NBA today.

 

Zman5

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LOL.... sure but see, I got you. You know it and I know it. I got all day all night if that's what I want to do. I can probably make you go crazy and blind over this topic, if I wanted to. Me, I can and will walk away the minute I lose interest in you. You are the type of person that can't walk away. You will keep coming back for as long as I decide to keep you on the string.

You know it and I know it. ;)

Definitely triggered by Dak's toe.

Good thing I didn't mention Dak's ankle or you would have had a heart attack. LOL.
 

ABQCOWBOY

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Oh You got me. I'm busted. So what did you win? Hope it's worth you almost having a heart attack getting triggered by Dak's toe. LOL.

I wonder how many days I can actually keep you at it?
 

ABQCOWBOY

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I'm back. Did you miss me?

I actually did miss you, completely. I had no idea you left but interestingly enough, you came right back.

I'm telling you Dude, it's science. You can not walk away, I have you on this silly little thing. Think about it, it's been 4 days and you have come back every day to this thread, to my post. You are proving me right with every post. I mean, I appreciated it, I'm just amazed at how well this works, how easy this actually is.

Crazy right......?
 

Zman5

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I actually did miss you, completely. I had no idea you left but interestingly enough, you came right back.

I'm telling you Dude, it's science. You can not walk away, I have you on this silly little thing. Think about it, it's been 4 days and you have come back every day to this thread, to my post. You are proving me right with every post. I mean, I appreciated it, I'm just amazed at how well this works, how easy this actually is.

Crazy right......?

Just like a little puppy, I throw the ball, you go fetch and come back for more. Ok. I'll play. Here you go. Go get it boy. LOL.
 

ABQCOWBOY

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Just like a little puppy, I throw the ball, you go fetch and come back for more. Ok. I'll play. Here you go. Go get it boy. LOL.

LOL.... Nice try but I read you in on how I would do this before we even went down this road. I think I'll rename you "Pavloves Dog". You like it, I think it fits.

:laugh:

But hey, if I were in your place, I would have tried to same thing. I mean, what choice do you have right? You been pegged and now you just gotta suck it. I guess I just look at it like this, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!"
 

Zman5

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LOL.... Nice try but I read you in on how I would do this before we even went down this road. I think I'll rename you "Pavloves Dog". You like it, I think it fits.

:laugh:

But hey, if I were in your place, I would have tried to same thing. I mean, what choice do you have right? You been pegged and now you just gotta suck it. I guess I just look at it like this, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!"


Fetch boy. Fetch.
 

DandyDon1722

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Stilted argument

No two broken ankles are the same. It's not about the bones as much as it is about tendons and arteries and type of fracture.

He's a quarterback, so he should be fine to play even if he loses mobility. It would be more serious for a speed player.

Exactly. Then there’s the tendonitis that always comes from serious bone or tissue damage.

I never underestimate the incredible advances in medicine and by the time Dak is 60 they may have it figured out but if not he’ll have a limp.

Short term - lots of Icy Hot coming up.
 

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This aspect of the situation really doesn't get talked about enough. There are so many people both on this site and your so called experts who dug in on Dak's failure before he had ever played a down in the NFL. Now that he has basically outperformed every other QB in his draft class as well as their predictions they got major egg on face and are reduced to rooting for him not to make it back. Some of their were practically giddy when he got hurt. It was one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen from a fan base made all the worse by the fact that these idiots claim to be fans of the Cowboys, yet are cheerleading for the Cowboys QB to stay hurt. What the hell, man?
No sir thats so far off base,, most that you declare and label as "Dak haters" actually have a clear understanding of how you actually build a winning franchise to succeed in todays capped market and environment.
 

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WARNING: Videos used are of the ankle break injuries of NFL players that some may find as graphic. Watch at your own risk.

With so much misinformation out there about broken ankles, specifically that a player may never play again or that ankle breaks are "devastating injuries", I wanted give some facts instead of attempting to fear monger with false information.


Obviously, there is Dak's broken ankle on October 11, 2020


While I have no specific information on Dak's injury recovery, what I can say is that these types of injuries are not career enders, or even production reducers, like so many seem to report.

Here are a few cases that support my above assessment.


Case #1: Vita Vea broken ankle on October 8, 2020


Vita broke his ankle during the Thursday night game of the SAME WEEK that Dak broke his.

Yet despite playing at ~100+ lbs more than Dak, and at a position that places more pressure on their legs than QBs, he was able to play in the NFCCG (Jan 24, 2021) and SB (Feb 7, 2021) playing 40+% of the snaps in both games.

Sure, he was not playing at as high of a snap count as before the injury, but he came back just 15 weeks after the injury and was a big part of the defense that shutdown both Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs. And I don't know of anyone who is saying Vita will not be 100% back after the offseason (maybe I missed it, but it sure isn't national news).

By the time Dak would need to participate in any activities, he would have had almost twice the recovery time (28 weeks) when offseason workout programs can begin on April 19.

So time wise, Dak's injury is not an issue.


Case 2: Allen Hurns broken ankle on January 5, 2019


In the Cowboys 2019 wild card playoff game against Seattle, Hurns broke his ankle. While he never played another snap in Big D, he did sign with the Miami Dolphins during the offseason and his production in 2019 was on par with his production in the two previous years in Jacksonville before he signed with the Cowboys for the 2018 season.

While some will argue that his 2019 production was not impressive, it was much better than what he did with his only year as a Cowboy, and was in line with anything he done in the NFL after his first two years in the league. So basically, he was what he was, before and after the injury.

Then there is also the time frame. Allen broke his ankle on Jan 5th (vs early October) and yet still played in the Dolphins season opener on Sept 8, 2019. Hurns even started the Week 3 game vs Dallas.

Here, with even less time to recover than Dak, Hurns was able to recover and still produce at the pre-injury Hurns level.


Case 3: Odell Beckham Jr broken ankle on October 8, 2017


Here we have an injury that happened almost identical to the Dak injury as far as when during the season it happened. In this case, OBJ was in the starting lineup in Game 1 of the 2018 season.

Not only did OBJ not miss the first game, he was on a likely career best year in 2018 before a Quad Bruise killed the last 4 games of his 2018 season. It would be one thing if the late season Quad injury was related to the ankle injury, but it was a leg whip (tripping) play by Kamu Granger-Hill that Kamu was ultimately fined for.

Again, the time frame is good and production was good (and arguably on a pace for better than) when compared to pre-injury OBJ.


Conclusion
Now what does this all mean? I have no idea if Dak will recover for the broken ankle because I don't have any of Dak's specific injury data.

But generally speaking, a broken ankle is not a "devastating injury" despite it being one of the most gruesome ones to watch. Even with players that weigh much more than Dak and/or play positions that are much harder on the leg/ankles than QBs (DT constant collisions in compact areas with other 300+lbs people / WR cuts and constant running), recovering from a broken ankle is not particularly hard to do.

Therefore unless there is something SPECIFICALLY wrong with Dak's recovery, I would suggest anyone reading any articles / opinions / speculation that Dak will never play again and/or will not be ready to start the season, to think critically about the data provided and see if it adds up.

So IMO, based off all the information that we do know, and even with the "cleanup" second surgery, I would be willing to bet that Dak will be 100% ready to go come April / May regardless of what team he is playing for.

And I hope that instead of blindly accepting someone else's conclusion as facts, to include this tread, you spend a little time to investigate and analyze the data yourself.

But that is me.
:starspin:

A Dallas insider said that there is a 20% chance that Dak will never play again and the Dak-lovers lost it. The poor guy will never recover from the threats and harassment he received. Heaven help if Dak doesn’t have a 100% recovery.
 

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The rumors of Dak's delayed recovery are greatly exaggerated and the population of haters in this forum are doing their darnedest to spread these rumors. Do not buy-in to the rumors. Dak will be a full go at training camp.
 

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It might be soon. I had not seen my son since he was three years old after a divorce. He's 35 now and he came up here to Utah to see me! It was an awesome time. He is a firefighter up in Rio Rancho somewhere. He plays the blues like I do and my son up here! lol.

When my son and I go down to see my other son in ABQ, I can't wait to eat at the Dog House...or a Lota-Burger with green.
The Dog House is the bomb!!

Lota Burger is hit or miss these days.....

Bob's Burgers....... mysteriously delicious.

Benny's in Los Lunas.....yep.

Santiago's in ABQ.....THE BEST GUAC BURGER......EVER!
 

ABQCOWBOY

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Fetch boy. Fetch.

Been over a week now and as I said, you are still coming back on this thread. As I said, you are here for as long as I care to string you along because you can't let it go.

Yawn.......

Experiment over.
 

Zman5

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Been over a week now and as I said, you are still coming back on this thread. As I said, you are here for as long as I care to string you along because you can't let it go.

Yawn.......

Experiment over.

Still wanna play fetch I see. Here you go pooch. Go get it boy.
 

ABQCOWBOY

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Still wanna play fetch I see. Here you go pooch. Go get it boy.


OK well, you've had your time in the Sun. Now it's time for me to send you packing. I can't say that this little experiment has been very productive, other then to simply confirm what I suspected. But, I can say that it has proven to be, somewhat interesting and mildly entertaining. But it's been enough time spent, time for me to move on. So, as quickly as it started, it now ends.

I'm finished with this and with you. Have a good life young man.
 
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