NFL, Walsh may have deal for video evidence

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NFL, Walsh may have deal for video evidence
FOXSports.com

Updated: April 23, 2008, 10:40 AM EST

Lawyers for the National Football League and former New England Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh are close to a deal in which information and materials pertaining to past videotaping practices would be handed over to the league, The Hartford Courant reported.

A source with knowledge of the negotiations expects the NFL to announce the agreement today, the paper reported.

Walsh has agreed to talk to the league but the date of the meeting is uncertain. It is believed Walsh has been negotiating for complete indemnification.

The Patriots were caught illegally videotaping defensive signals by New York Jets coaches in the 2007 season opener, resulting in coach Bill Belichick being fined $500,000, the team $250,000 and the loss of its first-round draft choice this weekend.

A report in February alleged the Patriots may have had access to tapes of a walkthrough by the St. Louis Rams on the day before their Super Bowl loss to New England in 2002. Belichick has emphatically denied ever seeing footage of an opponent's practice or ordering a practice taped.
 

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I wonder if Walsh has anything really worth looking at. "Information and materials" could mean anything.
 

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big dog cowboy;2045977 said:
NFL, Walsh may have deal for video evidence
FOXSports.com

Updated: April 23, 2008, 10:40 AM EST

Lawyers for the National Football League and former New England Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh are close to a deal in which information and materials pertaining to past videotaping practices would be handed over to the league, The Hartford Courant reported.

A source with knowledge of the negotiations expects the NFL to announce the agreement today, the paper reported.

Walsh has agreed to talk to the league but the date of the meeting is uncertain. It is believed Walsh has been negotiating for complete indemnification.

The Patriots were caught illegally videotaping defensive signals by New York Jets coaches in the 2007 season opener, resulting in coach Bill Belichick being fined $500,000, the team $250,000 and the loss of its first-round draft choice this weekend.

A report in February alleged the Patriots may have had access to tapes of a walkthrough by the St. Louis Rams on the day before their Super Bowl loss to New England in 2002. Belichick has emphatically denied ever seeing footage of an opponent's practice or ordering a practice taped.

Interesting how this is flying under the radar. Thanks for the article.
 

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adbutcher;2045987 said:
Interesting how this is flying under the radar. Thanks for the article.
I wondered the same thing. That is why I posted.

Quick - someone call ESPN.
 

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Roger Goddell's backyard after the evidence is turned over to him.
 

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big dog cowboy;2045991 said:
I wondered the same thing. That is why I posted.

Quick - someone call ESPN.

It would not be so bad if the media wasn't so apologetic. Plus they seem offended when a fan even mentions it and embarrassed when they are forced to cover it.
 

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numnuts23;2045993 said:
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Roger Goddell's backyard after the evidence is turned over to him.

:laugh2:

I know many here like Goddell but I don't trust him. Under no circumstance should a person in authority destroy evidence.
 

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It would not be so bad if the media wasn't so apologetic. Plus they seem offended when a fan even mentions it and embarrassed when they are forced to cover it.

Bingo! Every report from the national media basically brushes it off as if the Pats have nothing to worry about. Their attitude about it is sickening.
 

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WALSH DEAL IS IN PLACE

Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2008, 12:43 p.m.
The NFL has issued a statement regarding the status of negotiations with former Patriots employee Matt Walsh.

Basically, the negotiations are over, because a deal has been reached.

An agreement has been completed between the NFL and Matt Walsh that will allow Mr. Walsh, a former videotape operator with the New England Patriots, to share with the NFL information about activities occurring during his employment with the club from 1997-2003,” the statement reads.

Commissioner Roger Goodell will meet with Walsh in the league office on May 13.

The interview with Mr. Walsh will seek to determine whether he has any new information about that videotaping practice or other possible violations of league rules,” the NFL said. Under the agreement, Walsh must return any tapes or other items in his possession that belong to the team. The league and the Patriots have promised not to sue him. And the league and the Patriots “will indemnify him for any expenses, including legal fees that he incurs in connection with the interview.”

It’s unclear how far this commitment to indemnify Walsh goes; if he’s sued by, for example, Bill Belichick as a result of what Walsh tells Goodell, will the NFL and the Patriots cover Walsh financially?

After the May 13 meeting, there will be a news media briefing, which will be attended by Goodell.

The open question in all of this is whether Walsh will also have the ability to speak to the media or to Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.). If the deal contemplates that Walsh will only speak to the league, then there are two potential explanations. First, Walsh is confident that he has enough information to prompt Goodell to take swift and stern action against the Patriots. Second, Walsh really doesn’t have anything and prefers not to be exposed as not having anything to a national television audience.



WE’VE GOT THE WALSH AGREEMENT
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2008, 1:18 p.m.

Already, we have received a copy of the Matt Walsh agreement from two separate sources. Though we won’t be posting the full agreement (which is chock full of indecipherable mumbo-jumbo), we’ll be posting a stream of items that break down specific aspects of the deal.

For those of you (us included) with a touch of adult ADD, it’s the only way to make sense of it all.

So keep checking back for more nuggets about what the deal says — and more importantly what it means.

WALSH GETS ONGOING ACCESS TO HIS MATERIALS
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2008, 1:27 p.m.

One of the first things we noticed (and, after reading the language seven times, began to understand) regarding the Matt Walsh agreement is that, after Walsh surrenders to the league whatever tangible evidence that he has in his possession, he’ll still have access to it.

Under paragraph 1(b) of the agreement, Walsh’s lawyer may keep one copy of each “document” that is given to the league. Also, Walsh and his lawyer have the ability to inpect on request any “tangible property” that is surrendered to the NFL.

In other words, the suspicion held by some that the league will harvest Walsh’s documents and/or videotapes and/or any other hard evidence only to destroy the materials is erroneous. Walsh will be able to keep a copy of certain things, and he will be able to retrieve and inspect certain other things that he turns over.

That’s all for this entry. I’ve already got a headache from trying to figure out the agreement. And I’m only in paragraph 1.

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WALSH WINS THE “TRUTH” SKIRMISH
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2008, 1:47 p.m.

During much of the legal impasse between the NFL and Matt Walsh, the sticking point was whether Walsh would be required to “tell the truth” in order to achieve and maintain protection against possible civil claims from the Patriots or any third party.

Walsh’s lawyer, Michael Levy, wisely pointed out that truth is in the eye of the beholder. If the Patriots were to disagree with the substance of Walsh’s account regarding, for example, whether the Rams’ walk-through prior to Super Bowl XXXVI was videotaped or otherwise spied upon, the Pats could claim that he’s lying, and that he therefore isn’t entitled to any protections.

But Walsh could both be wrong and truthful. Indeed, ten people can witness a car accident, and then give ten different versions of what occurred. Each would be technically telling the truth, and yet each could be wrong about some aspect of what they remember seeing or hearing.

On this specific point, Walsh has prevailed; still, it was very prudent for the NFL to yield. The league’s prior position was unrealistic, and put Walsh unnecessarily at risk for a game of “gotcha.”

In paragraph 2 of the agreement, Walsh is required ”to provide the NFL full, complete and accurate information, in good faith and to the best of his knowledge.”

The indemnification commitment Walsh receives in paragraph 3(a) applies even if there is “alleged untruthfulness” in Walsh’s disclosures to the NFL, unless there is “intentional untruthfulness.”

In other words, Walsh is not exposed to a claim that he’s being untruthful merely if he happens to be factually wrong. Basically, then, it’s not a lie if Walsh genuinely believes that any factual inaccuracies he discloses are the truth.

Though it sounds Costanza-esque, this dynamic accounts for many of the disputes in witness testimony that arise every day in courts throughout the country. Sure, some of the witnesses are committing perjury. More often than not, however, the witnesses who provide incorrect testimony think they’re telling the truth, but simply are misinformed about what the truth really is.
 

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Good. Lets hope Walsh all off the sudden doesnt come up missing before the 13th
 

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numnuts23;2045993 said:
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Roger Goddell's backyard after the evidence is turned over to him.

Honestly, Congress needs to be involved in this. Goodell could just switch tapes out...
 

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trickblue;2046023 said:
Honestly, Congress needs to be involved in this. Goodell could just switch tapes out...

Honestly I don't think that it is beyond the realm of possibility. Hell he already destroyed evidence, which should be enough for a full investigation. Hell there was more media scrutiny and outcry over scissorgate. Just imagine if the Cowboys were the ones perpetrating this crime.
 

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One must remember that GOodel is owned by the owners. I have no doubt he was ordered to destroy everything.
 

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Boyzmamacita;2045982 said:
I wonder if Walsh has anything really worth looking at. "Information and materials" could mean anything.

Don't think it matters, the NFL wants this to go away. A closed door meeting which ends with what ever Walsh has getting burnt and a Goodell PC telling that there was nothing worth going into details about on the tapes, case closed. This is probably what the future holds for this case
 

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Ren;2046150 said:
Don't think it matters, the NFL wants this to go away. A closed door meeting which ends with what ever Walsh has getting burnt and a Goodell PC telling that there was nothing worth going into details about on the tapes, case closed. This is probably what the future holds for this case

Thankfully Goodell cannot destroy any of the evidence...this time.
 

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Ren;2046150 said:
Don't think it matters, the NFL wants this to go away. A closed door meeting which ends with what ever Walsh has getting burnt and a Goodell PC telling that there was nothing worth going into details about on the tapes, case closed. This is probably what the future holds for this case

It said the lawyer gets a copy of almost everything so I imagine Goodell is powerless to cover this up ( at least without financially rewarding Walsh very well,i.e. blackmail hush money ).

Either Walsh magically becomes very wealthy or the truth should come out this time IF he really has any damning evidence.
 
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