NFLN Programming Alert: America's Game: 1977 Cowboys

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... my tivo has them as #11 with the show debuting tomorrow at 8:00 pm on NFL Network.
The 1992 Cowboys are the last of our teams to not be ranked. I have a feeling the panel that selected the top 20 SB teams will screw them as usual. Although I saw the DMN's Rick Gosselin had them rated #1.
 

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77 Cowboys at only 11? and only the 92 team left?

wow what happened to the 93 team? the 71 team?

David
 

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They only ranked the top 20. 71 Cowboys were #15, 77 Cowboys are at #11, 92 Cowboys are in the top 10 but the show has not aired yet.

93 and 95 Cowboys were not in the top 20. I'm surprised about the 93 team.
 

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parcells316;1340690 said:
They only ranked the top 20. 71 Cowboys were #15, 77 Cowboys are at #11, 92 Cowboys are in the top 10 but the show has not aired yet.

93 and 95 Cowboys were not in the top 20. I'm surprised about the 93 team.

I have a hard time believing there were 19 teams better than the 93 Cowboys...the only problem that team had was Emmitt's holdout and Jimmy falling in love with eddie Murray kicking field goals

just wondering, but how many Niner and Steeler teams were ranked?

David
 

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dbair1967;1340710 said:
I have a hard time believing there were 19 teams better than the 93 Cowboys...the only problem that team had was Emmitt's holdout and Jimmy falling in love with eddie Murray kicking field goals

just wondering, but how many Niner and Steeler teams were ranked?

David

I don't remember how many 9ers and Steeler teams. But they haven't aired any of them. So you can bet however many there are, they're all in the Top 10.
 

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3 niner teams with the 94 team ranked 18, the other two must be in the top 10.
2 Steelers teams with both being ranked in the top 10 (the two that beat Dallas in the SB).
Niners and Boys are the only teams with 3 in the top 20.
 

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So the 94 Niners were ranked higher than the 93 Cowboys who knocked out basically the same team in 93 and then went back in 95 to a SB, and they had to circumvent the cap, and add a former Cowboy to win it in 94.

I'll bet at least 2 SF teams, 84 and 89.

2 Steelers teams 75 and 78.

1 NE team.

The 72 fins.

The 85 Bears.

The 91 Skins or one of the Denver teams.

1 Packers team from the 60's.

And the 92 Cowboys
 

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Thanks for the heads up. That '77 team was awesome.

We really came together that year. We toyed with opponents. It makes me wonder why they couldn't play at that level every year. Denver beat the Steelers and the Raiders, (the top AFC teams in the 70s) back to back in the playoffs and were that year's hot team. But to Harvey Martin and the Cowboys "The Orange Crush" was just "soda water, it don't win football games".
 

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dbair1967;1340710 said:
I have a hard time believing there were 19 teams better than the 93 Cowboys...
Well of course there weren't... The SB winning teams just prior to the cap and free agency are some of the best ever.

But we all know how underrated we're going to be by the media.

Getting ripped off on media rankings like this doesn't really bother me anymore except for one thing: It's not fair to the younger kids who didn't see these teams for themselves and don't realize how distorted some of these rankings are. It's a shame that some of them are going to think that Brett Favre's SB-winning Green Bay team (just as an example -- I haven't seen the rankings) really was better than some of the better teams from long ago just because the NFL channel or ESPN says so.
 

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According to this list...on ag.nfl.com

#20 - 1983 LA Raiders
#19 - 1999 STL Rams
#18 - 1969 KC Chiefs
#17 - 1994 SF 49ers
#16 - 1996 GB Packers
#15 - 1971 Dal Cowboys
#14 - 1991 Was Commanders
#13 - 1986 NY Giants
#12 - 1998 Den Broncos

Trying to find the rankings of 21-40. Can't locate them right now.

BTW, fans can vote for their top 20 teams.
 

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WoodysGirl;1340822 said:
According to this list...on ag.nfl.com

#20 - 1983 LA Raiders
#19 - 1999 STL Rams
#18 - 1969 KC Chiefs
#17 - 1994 SF 49ers
#16 - 1996 GB Packers
#15 - 1971 Dal Cowboys
#14 - 1991 Was Commanders
#13 - 1986 NY Giants
#12 - 1998 Den Broncos

Trying to find the rankings of 21-40. Can't locate them right now.

BTW, fans can vote for their top 20 teams.
They didn't rank the teams 21-40. This was an NFL Films project and Steve Sabol, head of NFL Films, said they decided to have a panel only rank the top 20 teams because he didn't want to get any backlash from the team ranked 40th.
I've wathched all of them so far and it is extremely well done imo. Each team has a 1 hour piece on its season with 3 members selected for interviews. They did a piece on all 40 winners and they will be available on dvd once the top 20 is announced. The top 20 is currently being counted down weekly on NFLN. However, now that they have reached the top 10 they will be doing them quicker because #1 and # 2 are due to air the night before the SB.
 

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parcells316;1340841 said:
They didn't rank the teams 21-40. This was an NFL Films project and Steve Sabol, head of NFL Films, said they decided to have a panel only rank the top 20 teams because he didn't want to get any backlash from the team ranked 40th.
I posted that before I did a quick re-read on it. So that's a "my bad" moment, cuz I just read they're only airing the top 20 leading up to the Super Bow.

However, I do know that a documentary was created for each SB team. This according to Gosselin.


NFL Films has something Super (10/17)



[SIZE=-1]12:31 PM CDT on Tuesday, October 17, 2006[/SIZE]​





I've always been a fan of NFL Films.​


Historically, that arm of the NFL is what separated football from baseball, basketball, hockey and the other sports – its documentation of the sport on film.​


Back in 1962, NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle awarded Ed Sabol total access, allowing him to take his cameras onto practice and game fields, into sidelines and locker rooms. Since then, NFL Films has given us the voice of John Facenda and five decades of classic footage, highlighted by the miking of Kansas City coach Hank Stram in Super Bowl IV.​


NFL Films has won 92 Emmys for its work. But the best is yet to come. In a massive undertaking commissioned by the NFL Network, NFL Films is compiling a 41-part series ranking the Super Bowl champions, entitled "America's Game."​


"It's the kind of thing that every football fan is going to want to have – all 40 of them," said Steve Sabol, Ed's son and the man now in charge of NFL Films. "It's like what Ken Burns did for the Civil War."​


Each of the 40 champions is the subject of an hour-long documentary. The NFL Network will count down the 20 greatest Super Bowl teams, beginning the Friday after Thanksgiving (Nov. 24) with No. 20. The series will run through Feb. 3, the day before the Super Bowl, when the greatest champion will be unveiled.​


A 41st installment of the series will be the first to air on the NFL Network on Nov. 17. It will preview the series and include taped interviews with the panel of 53 voters who ranked the champions.​

That panel includes former players (Dan Marino) and coaches (Marv Levy), general managers (Carl Peterson) plus writers (Bob Oates, Los Angeles Times) and broadcasters (Joe Buck, Fox). There was one stipulation for inclusion on the panel – you've never been a part of a Super Bowl champion.​


The narration for the series is provided by several Hollywood actors, including Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman and Bruce Willis. Each championship season is seen through the eyes of three players or coaches from that team.​


"Hopefully we'd get a big-name star," Sabol said. "The second choice would be someone on the other side of the ball, and the third choice would be someone with an interesting personal story."​


The project began in early 2005, and NFL Films traveled as far as Alaska to get an interview (Larry Csonka). No one is a featured speaker on more than one game. So Troy Aikman is interviewed for the 1992 Cowboys but not 1993 or 1995.


I've seen a few of the episodes and found them compelling, spiced by that third-person "wild-card" interviewee. Duane Thomas was the wild card on the 1971 Cowboys and talks about his contractual problems that season with Tex Schramm and his eventual fallout with the Cowboys.


Center Bill Curry was superb as the wild card of the 1970 Colts documentary, as was tight end Todd Christensen for the 1983 Raiders. Some interesting tidbits are revealed, and the sideline banter is classic. I have a much greater respect now for Drew Bledsoe the person and teammate after watching the installment of the 2001 Patriots.​


For the record, I was a member of the panel and here was how I voted the top 10: 1) 1992 Cowboys, 2) 1975 Steelers, 3) 1989 49ers, 4) 1972 Miami, 5, 1977 Cowboys, 6) 1998 Broncos, 7) 1984 49ers, 8) 1985 Bears, 9) 1976 Raiders, 10) 1978 Steelers.​


LINK​
 

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93 without a shadow of a doubt is a top 10, if not top 5 team. They were as good as the 92 team if not better.
 

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I am not sure how many have been watching these each week or not, but I have to say, this is the best thing nfl films has ever done.

I have been fascinated by all of them so far. Really love this stuff.

I wish nfl films would hire me. I would mop the office up for crying out loud to work there.
 
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Why are people complaining about three of the Cowboys championship teams being in the top 20? I mean I think Pittsburgh and San Fran has like three as well if I'm not mistaken...
 

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theebs;1341101 said:
I am not sure how many have been watching these each week or not, but I have to say, this is the best thing nfl films has ever done.

I have been fascinated by all of them so far. Really love this stuff.

I wish nfl films would hire me. I would mop the office up for crying out loud to work there.

You are correct, these are great. I've enjoyed this series better than anything else NFL Films has done and that's saying something. It's very interesting to see the behind the scenes footage and commentary.

Well done Steve Sabol.
 
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