NFLN Top 10 Bad Weather Games - Ice Bowl #1

[dargonking999]

Sue me...it was late.

Papers are in, and a officer will be coming to see you soon

 

[BouncingCheese]

That tuck rule game in NE was what the NFL is about... Vinatieri should be in the HOF for that kick; I have no idea how he did that; Amazing.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I'm not trying to cut weather completely out of football like regular season games. I simply want weather to be eliminated as a factor in the single elimination games.

I don't understand eliminating weather from the playoffs but not eliminating weather when deciding who makes the playoffs.

A team a GM would need to build to be successful in the Arizona heat is different from the team one would have to build to be successful in the legendary frozen tundra of Lambeau Field.

Look at the Bears for example. Their teams have always been built on a hard nosed defense and a power running game. They understand that's the only way to win at Soldier Field after November when the winds pick up off the lake and the temperature drops.

The Vikings were tough as nails then moved indoors and became as passive a franshise as you can get. Coiincidence? For the record, I would have loved to see how many of their four Super Bowl appearances they could have won if the Super Bowl wasn't always held at a warm weather site, negating some of their advantages.

 

[DallasEast]

I don't understand eliminating weather from the playoffs but not eliminating weather when deciding who makes the playoffs.

A team a GM would need to build to be successful in the Arizona heat is different from the team one would have to build to be successful in the legendary frozen tundra of Lambeau Field.

Look at the Bears for example. Their teams have always been built on a hard nosed defense and a power running game. They understand that's the only way to win at Soldier Field after November when the winds pick up off the lake and the temperature drops.

The Vikings were tough as nails then moved indoors and became as passive a franshise as you can get. Coiincidence? For the record, I would have loved to see how many of their four Super Bowl appearances they could have won if the Super Bowl wasn't always held at a warm weather site, negating some of their advantages.

But, as you're pointing out, the Bears and the Vikings enjoyed advantages because of inclement weather. Inclement weather affects footing, the path of a thrown football, vision, the ability to hold the football, etc. Heat is a different issue. That's more of a factor in regards to player conditioning. Remember the pickle juice game? Dallas should have had the advantage over the Eagles, but didn't because of fatigue brought on by the heat. Philadelphia's players compensated by drinking pickle juice to more quickly replenish their bodily fluids.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

But, as you're pointing out, the Bears and the Vikings enjoyed advantages because of inclement weather. Inclement weather affects footing, the path of a thrown football, vision, the ability to hold the football, etc. Heat is a different issue. That's more of a factor in regards to player conditioning. Remember the pickle juice game? Dallas should have had the advantage over the Eagles, but didn't because of fatigue brought on by the heat. Philadelphia's players compensated by drinking pickle juice to more quickly replenish their bodily fluids.

But they also have some disadvantages that are magnified in the Super Bowl, as they've almost always been more plodding for lack of a better term.

If you eliminate the weather totally from the equation in the playoffs, you'd need to do it all regular season also.

We'd see nothing but chuck 'n duck offenses and 56-49 games. As I've already said, we have that already, it's called the Arena Football League and very few people care about it.

The common denominator for the top four QBs last year in passing yards in Brees, Manning, Bulger and Kitna? All dome teams.

 

[DallasEast]

But they also have some disadvantages that are magnified in the Super Bowl, as they've almost always been more plodding for lack of a better term.

If you eliminate the weather totally from the equation in the playoffs, you'd need to do it all regular season also.

We'd see nothing but chuck 'n duck offenses and 56-49 games. As I've already said, we have that already, it's called the Arena Football League and very few people care about it.

The common denominator for the top four QBs last year in passing yards in Brees, Manning, Bulger and Kitna? All dome teams.

Disadvantages or advantages because of the weather will not help any team if it's eliminated. It would then fall upon which team is the best overall in any given game.

If the regular season has all domed games as a consequence, that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Of course, I can't speak for the teams themselves.

I did a quick survey of the 2006 season (it was a quick, so I hope it's 100% correct ). In the 67 games played in domed stadiums, only six games had a winner and/or loser score more than 39 points, so I don't think that the NFL would suddenly morph into a chuck-n-duck league simply because all games would be played indoors. I would also like to state that the AFL has more liberal rules which favors the offense and that the difference in the number of players involved would also offset a huge increase in scoring. But, who knows? Perhaps the NFL will think of widening the field like the CFL to increase scoring, but I doubt it.