Nice stat on #1 QB's and 10 reasons to get one.

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1: Round in which the six highest-rated passers in the NFL all were drafted


Top 6 passers right now were all drafted in the first round. Coincidence? Obviously not, people may point to teams like the Ravens who won the superbowl with Dilfer, or Brady a 6th round pick. But for the most part if you want a qb with big time potential it has to be done in the first. It's a risky move, but sometimes you have to have the balls to make the move, that's been put off for far too long.

The reason why we would need to do this in 2006 is this: the rookie qb needs to sit one year or possibly even 2 max, before they can be a starter, and usually breakout in the 3rd year. If we draft a qb in 2006, Bledsoe will still definitely be the starter, and whoever we get (probably in mid to late first round) would have no pressure on him to do anything. Depending on how well Bledsoe played and how well the rookie was progressing, Bledsoe could even end up starting in 2007.

The time is perfect to select a young qb.
1)We've got the luxury of a sure starter for once in a really long time with Bledsoe.
2) we've got a defense that is on the verge of breakout, and has a lot of young guys who are starters/future starters.
3) we've got one of the best Running games in the league, JJ is a workhorse beast, and imo TT and Barber will be very good backs after they get more game time.
4) Bledsoe is a nice guy who is actually willing to teach a young guy things, similar to the way Rivera is. Bledsoe wouldnt be too arrogant or scared of losing his job too mentor the young guy. and Bledsoe would be at the end of a very good possibly HOF career and would really have nothing left to prove besides maybe a super bowl.
5) great coach with a keen eye for scouting. If we did draft a qb in the first round, odds are Parcells would choose the right one.
6) Henson is already 3rd on the depth chart, and with his relatively cheap contract, we could keep him on the team for the next couple years at a low cost, without having to cut Bledsoe or the rookie.
7) Dallas has the potential to be a super bowl contender in the next few years, and with Bledsoe at the end of his career we would need a big time qb capable of taking us all the way to the promised land.
8) we wouldnt be taking a QB #1 overall so the contract would be immensely smaller compared to an Alex Smith or Rivers type contract. Our pick next year is going to be from 15-32 most likely somewhere in the 20's. We could get a very good quality qb and still be able to keep henson.
9) This coming year should be a pretty good overall group of QB's. Besides the obvious franchise qb of leinart, Omar Jacobs will probably come out, Quinn could come out, Vince Young might, Reggie McNeal, and a few others who could shoot up depending on this college season.
10) last reason is, what would the cowboys be without their usual Franchise QB. we've got the trademark big play RB with JJ in now. We need our trademark QB to get Dallas back to the superbowl.
 

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anyone got the particulars on what kind of contract Losman and Aaron Rodgers are signed to?
 

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Well i dont know about cheap contract for henson, but i'm all for drafting a QB in the frist round, as long as two things

we dont trade up to get him, it aint worth it

we dont reach for him (I.E even though a supporter cant kncok the truth Quincy Carter)
 

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Hiero said:
anyone got the particulars on what kind of contract Losman and Aaron Rodgers are signed to?
Losman is signed to a "I'm a joke of a pro QB and will never amount to anything" contract and I think Rodgers signed a "Look at me, I'll never be crap in the NFL so I might as well quit now" contract.

I think.
 

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Hiero said:
1: Round in which the six highest-rated passers in the NFL all were drafted



9) This coming year should be a pretty good overall group of QB's. Besides the obvious franchise qb of leinart, Omar Jacobs will probably come out, Quinn could come out, Vince Young might, Reggie McNeal, and a few others who could shoot up depending on this college season.
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I keep hearing about how good Omar Jacobs is. I've only seen him play once (last week) and he was horrible. He must have just been having an off day, because I respect the opinions on this board and most of you rave about Omar. Reggie McNeal has caught my attention though. I would like to see more of him.

Vince Young is really doing a much better job of passing this year too.
 

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If you select a QB in round 1, you don't select him on potential or athletic ability or on arm...you also don't select a guy who started 1 year or only had 1-2 good years, if you can help it.

If you select a QB in round 1, you want a guy who's at least a 3 year starter... a guy who has played in a fairly open passing attack... a guy who made other guys around him better... a guy who is a leader on his team... a guy who had guys talking about his first round status when he was a sophomore/junior... a guy who played against top competition even if from a smaller program... a guy who rose to the occasion at the senior bowl or any other post season games.

You'd love to have the prototype 6'4" with decent legs and an accurate cannon for an arm, but a little of the arm strength stuff is overrated...you want a winner who's already proven himself in many ways.

Then you cut down on the chance he'll bust or disappoint...it's not foolproof, but falling in love with a strong arm or potential in a QB in shorts and a T-shirt is foolish. Don't project first round QB's...take guys with a nice resume and plenty of tape against tough defenses...how did this guy perform when his team was behind or in the 4th quarter when he's already thrown 2 picks.

That's my opinion...if you can find it all, GREAT...if not, don't let arm strength or spiral or a few huge games or 1 great season cause you to become too enamored.
 

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Where do I sign for us to do this? :)

I say get a another talented young qb in here to get ahead of the game. You don't win in this league with bus drivers. Bledsoe is not playing as a bus driver right now, he's flinging it around with authority....like the way we'd want a youngster to look. Sitting a year or so if Bledsoe keeps this up would be fine for the guy....ala Carson Palmer (he sat 1 year, struggled some and gained experience his 2nd, and now he's excelling in his 3rd).
 

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Please don't take V Young. He's a RB playing QB. I am sorry but he'll never be anything more than a great college CB. His accuracy is horrible and he depends too much on running which will get himself killed. BTW, he's not even in the same class as Vick.
 

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LeonDixson said:
I keep hearing about how good Omar Jacobs is. I've only seen him play once (last week) and he was horrible. He must have just been having an off day, because I respect the opinions on this board and most of you rave about Omar. Reggie McNeal has caught my attention though. I would like to see more of him.

Vince Young is really doing a much better job of passing this year too.

Likewise on the Omar Jacobs bit. Looked like a I-AA QB the game I saw him play.
McNeal isn't a franchise guy you take in the first round IMO. In fact, I don't foresee him being a good starter in the NFL. He's too inconsistent. Some great flashes, but nothing to hang your hat on. What really put my opinion of him down a notch was when A&M lost to Clemson.
Young will be Vick revisited. Will make the most amazing play you've ever seen, then follow it with 3 questionable ones and 1 boneheaded one (often resulting in a TO). I don't think he'll ever be consistent enough to be great QB.
Guys I like, obviously Leinert. Pro-style offense, guy just flat out WINS over and over again. Has just enough arm strength but the way he sees the play before the snap and makes his reads is impressive.
Brady Quinn, guy has moxie. Has good arm, good head and will get even better with another year under a SB caliber offensive coach.
 

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Just trying to project which kind of qb's will fall to our pick. I know there is going to be some other QB's maybe Leak, ive heard of a couple good ones from the MAC(which tends to be more towards my prototypical qb *leftwich*) . Imagine if we had Leftwich with this line, this rb, and these wr's. we'd be super bowl contenders for sure this year. What's the guy from the mac named? I know he's supposed to be pretty good, and he looked kinda like roethlisberger in size.
 

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ghst187 said:
Brady Quinn, guy has moxie. Has good arm, good head and will get even better with another year under a SB caliber offensive coach.
This would be an ideal pick for Parcells and I would love it. However I would be fairly surprised to see him leave after this, his junior season. He is going to want to come back for a chance to win a national title imo, if they keep progressing like this. If he does come back, he'd be perfect to ride the pine while Bledsoe was starting, and would be more ready than other college qb's if bledsoe gets hurt.
 

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i dont think he's a first round pick, Vince young would be a first rpund pick IMO

Even better, we could get him in the 3rd or 4th. Sporting News had a good tidbit about him saying he is more comfortable throwing than taking off and running. His only drawback is he is 5'11. I stll don't care, if we got him in the 3rd I'd be ecstatic.
 

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Paniolo22 said:
Even better, we could get him in the 3rd or 4th. Sporting News had a good tidbit about him saying he is more comfortable throwing than taking off and running. His only drawback is he is 5'11. I stll don't care, if we got him in the 3rd I'd be ecstatic.
I dunno after watching Brees and other small qb's the chance they have of actually becoming good starters is usually really low. Brees in past seasons looked like he could never see over his line, which is why he tries to bootleg it a little bit sometimes, and he has to jump sometimes when he throws it. Leak seems to be fundamentally great though, if he has a big year I think it could push him into the first.
 

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Paniolo22 said:
Even better, we could get him in the 3rd or 4th. Sporting News had a good tidbit about him saying he is more comfortable throwing than taking off and running. His only drawback is he is 5'11. I stll don't care, if we got him in the 3rd I'd be ecstatic.

there's alot more drawbacks to Marcus Vick other than just being 5'11

this guy has zero chance at being a starting NFL QB

David
 

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Hiero said:
Just trying to project which kind of qb's will fall to our pick. I know there is going to be some other QB's maybe Leak, ive heard of a couple good ones from the MAC(which tends to be more towards my prototypical qb *leftwich*) . Imagine if we had Leftwich with this line, this rb, and these wr's. we'd be super bowl contenders for sure this year. What's the guy from the mac named? I know he's supposed to be pretty good, and he looked kinda like roethlisberger in size.

If we had Leftwich, we would not have Newman.

We would have been in a desperate need for a CB and would have needed to draft one or overpay for the likes of Winfield in 2004, probably both.

The need would have lessened the chance of us trading down with the Bills, would Jones have been there at our pick?

No trade means no Spears.

The cap impact of a 1st rd QB, means less money for the FA we signed this year, meaning one probably goes unsigned.

Having Leftwich could mean no Newman, Jones, Spears and one of Henry, Rivera or Ferguson.

Better off?

I don't think so.;)
 
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