I like him in the second, but I'd like him a lot more in the second if he's strong at the combine. I wonder if he's athletic enough to be a three-down player.
The 3 down thing is kind of silly to me. Guys like Hitchens are 3 down guys and Hitch is (slow). I think Micah Kiser ran slow too and hes the 3 down lb for a top defense. Yall got on me about cb speed but lb speed is less important than cb.I like him in the second, but I'd like him a lot more in the second if he's strong at the combine. I wonder if he's athletic enough to be a three-down player.
Yeah, I agree - there’s no doubt in my mind that this kid is an every down backer. He can cover RB’s and hits like a freight train. He has deceptive game speed.The 3 down thing is kind of silly to me. Guys like Hitchens are 3 down guys and Hitch is (slow). I think Micah Kiser ran slow too and hes the 3 down lb for a top defense. Yall got on me about cb speed but lb speed is less important than cb.
The 3 down thing is kind of silly to me. Guys like Hitchens are 3 down guys and Hitch is (slow). I think Micah Kiser ran slow too and hes the 3 down lb for a top defense. Yall got on me about cb speed but lb speed is less important than cb.
Yup. That's why josey jewell is a (3 down lb) and he ran a 4.8LB and Safety is more about instincts then it's timed speed.
I don't care about his 40 time. I care about whether or not he can carry a TE across the face, flip his hips and get depth, etc.The 3 down thing is kind of silly to me. Guys like Hitchens are 3 down guys and Hitch is (slow). I think Micah Kiser ran slow too and hes the 3 down lb for a top defense. Yall got on me about cb speed but lb speed is less important than cb.
So what drill do you look at?I don't care about his 40 time. I care about whether or not he can carry a TE across the face, flip his hips and get depth, etc.
There are lots of strong instinctual LBers in college who can't cover in the pros because they aren't athletic enough.
A young Sean Lee wasn't going to beat many in a foot race, but he always around the football due to his high level instincts.Yup. That's why josey jewell is a (3 down lb) and he ran a 4.8
I like 3-cone and shuttle for LBers, but it's more about full body of work, especially for their weight, and just how they look, tbh.So what drill do you look at?
Lee had an elite 3 cone - same as LVE. But good as he was, there were things you couldn't have him do - mainly carry fast TEs down the seam or in man coverage in general. This is why LVE has so much potential, he can turn and run with guys down the seam, especially with his height.A young Sean Lee wasn't going to beat many in a foot race, but he always around the football due to his high level instincts.
Lee had an elite 3 cone - same as LVE. But good as he was, there were things you couldn't have him do - mainly carry fast TEs down the seam or in man coverage in general. This is why LVE has so much potential, he can turn and run with guys down the seam, especially with his height.
I love Sean Lee, but in 2020 I don't think I'm drafting him in the 30s.
You don’t think he’s good enough to be in consideration in the 2nd? I’d like him more in the 3rd as well but he’s a perfect SAM / MIKE. Not sure he’s quick enough at WILL but his combine will tell a lot.Good college LBr, not sure if he’s athletic enough to be a quality pro.
Eyes on him at the combine. Good potential mid round target where we’ve had success in past (Hitch).
You don’t think he’s good enough to be in consideration in the 2nd? I’d like him more in the 3rd as well but he’s a perfect SAM / MIKE. Not sure he’s quick enough at WILL but his combine will tell a lot.