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It depends on what other players you put around them, the strength of the organization, coaching, etc. However, there were no players even close to the talent of Lamb when they selected. He is a top ten talent in any draft, & was a great value there. It's all about value, & no one did it better than Dallas throughout this draft.
 

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I hear Cowboys fans talk a lot about drafting the best player available. No team is successful drafting the best player available (BPA). Ask the Detroit Lions who drafted Charles Rodgers, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, and Calvin Johnson in almost consecutive drafts.

You draft the best available player of need (BAPON), ranking the players by grade, then by positions, ranking your needs in priority (prioritized needs), and then you make your BAPON draft board. You can trade up or down using BAPON but you better stick with the board. The 2005 draft that is on ESPN2 today shows how it worked correctly. Parcells wanted to change to a 3-4 Defense and need players. To go to a 3-4 D you better have and outstanding pass rusher at OLB that can also drop in coverage when needed. You also need a DL that can hold up at the line of scrimage and then be able to rush the passer (275 to +300 pound DL).

The Cowboys had DL as there no.1 priority position of need in 2005, and no. 2 was OLB. When the Cowboys came to pick in the 1st round of the 2005 draft, they had a dilemma. Demarcus Ware was the BAPON on the draft board, but the no.1 priority position of need fit was Marcus Spears, DL, LSU from Southern Lab High in Baton Rouge, and Nick Saban Coached. Parcell's loved Ware saying he reminded him of a retired LB in FL (LT), however his no. 1 priority need was not the no.1 player on the draft board. So the Cowboys personnel department (Jeff Ireland, others) had to conveince him to stick to the board and draft Ware then hope that Spears fell to their 20 pick in the 1st round or they could trade up to snatch him. Parcells did not want to take the risk but he also knew about the Cowboys not sticking with the BAPON draft board leading the all the sorry Larry Lacewell drafts that he required Jerry Jones to fire for Parcells to Coach the Cowboys. So, the Cowboys stuck with the BAPON and drafted future Hall of Fame and Ring of Honor OLB Demarucs Ware. The remainder of the draft BAPON was used and the Cowboys went for 4-3 to 3-4 in one draft, creating a playoff/super bowl caliber defense that continued through the lousy coaching and coaching carousel of Son of Bum, and that Red Head clapping idiot who finally wasted what was drafted in 2005.

BAPON was the method used by Gil Brandt/Wooten during the Landry years (20 consecutive winning seasons) before Landry got more involved in personnel decisions in the mid/late 80's. BAPON was used masterfully by Jimmy Johnson/Ackles/Wooten to build the Cowboys Dynasty of the 90's. BAPON was totally neglected during the Jerry Jones/Lacewell years. BAPON was brought back during the Parcells years (see the trade down in 2004 that lead to the 2 1st round picks in 2005). Neglected again during the Jerry Jones/Tom Ciskowski years. After the 2013 fiasco (trade down not using BAPON) BAPON was brought back by Will McClay. However Jerry still can mess it up when he listens to coaches vs. scouts see the Hill DT pick, and the waste of former 1st round pick Taco Charlton, who had as many sacks as Demarcus Lawrence in less games last year for the Dolphins as Lawrence cost per sack total was $4M less than Taco.

When you draft the Best Available Player of Need according to your draft board, you will pass on Johnny Football, and draft a OG from Notre Dame named Zach Martin. Keep yourself and your coaches out of the selection process, and never draft the best available player without looking at prioritized needs or you will end up with 4 WR as your number one pick 4 out of 5 years.

I agree. You take the BPAON, but you dont drop down the board too far to get that player. If you needa CB and there are 6 players above him on your board, you dont fall that fall for that need. You draft the BPA or you draft on the other 6 because more than likely one of them is a position of need as well. But I agree teams dont take BPA ever round, every year. If they did a team would end up taking a position in the 1st round for multiple years because that position just happened to be the BPA. A team could draft a QB in the 1st round for 3 years straight because they were BPA, or OT, or OG, or even worse a RB lol.
 

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Usually its BPA with area of need factored in............unless their is just a huge disparity in player evaluation between the need pick and BPA........as was apparently the case here. There might have been a 15 slot difference between CeeDee and the guy that filled one of our big need areas. I guarantee if CeeDee was the 6th overall prospect on our board and there was a DT or CB who was 7th or 8th on our board also available, we aren't picking the BPA.
 

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If you simply look at the "#1 offense" from last year vs the shape of that defense, secondary in particular, Lamb is the biggest example of BPA you'll ever see.

Yes, need should be considered to a point, but not when theres a player on the board that is head and shoulders the best player left.
 

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This isn't how it works.

You group players in tiers.

Within tiers you have flexibility. But you should never drop down a tier for need.

This clearly was what happened with Ceedee and the Cowboys. He was the best player within the tier...maybe the only player left in that tier. They simply had to take him or violate best practice.
This is well put. To the point and simple.
 

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As the book of Ecclesiastes 12:13a says "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter; ..."

McClay: We talk about it leading up to it. The draft is two fold - need and best player available. We had a couple guys we liked on the defensive side of the ball, but at the end of the day, Lamb was the best player available on our board....When you start considering the needs of other teams, the best available player at a position of need for other teams, at about 9 or 10 we started to somewhat process it a little bit.

You can never draft just the best player available because it can lead to you not getting team needs (see the years between Gurode and Frederick). The Cowboys had a list of prioritized needs S, CB, DE, DT, LB, C, WR-3, TE etc. The best player available of need at pick 17 was the Lamb of Jones. Beasley left and the Cowboys filled the need in FA with Cobb. Cobb left and the Cowboys fill the need in the draft with value for the pick.

Teams mess up is when they draft a need reaching for a player and get no value (see the CB draft of 2000 where they reached for Goodrich). When you draft BAPON and get value that is when you look back at the draft 3 years from now and say that is how we got to the Super Bowl (see 1989-1993 drafts).

This draft was done correctly, it was done smartly, and the Cowboys picked the Best Available Player of Need.
 

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Lol!!!! What makes you an expert? Madden? ESPNplus? Or, do you have real cred??? I would really like to know?
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I hear Cowboys fans talk a lot about drafting the best player available. No team is successful drafting the best player available (BPA). Ask the Detroit Lions who drafted Charles Rodgers, Roy Williams, Mike Williams, and Calvin Johnson in almost consecutive drafts.

You draft the best available player of need (BAPON), ranking the players by grade, then by positions, ranking your needs in priority (prioritized needs), and then you make your BAPON draft board. You can trade up or down using BAPON but you better stick with the board. The 2005 draft that is on ESPN2 today shows how it worked correctly. Parcells wanted to change to a 3-4 Defense and need players. To go to a 3-4 D you better have and outstanding pass rusher at OLB that can also drop in coverage when needed. You also need a DL that can hold up at the line of scrimage and then be able to rush the passer (275 to +300 pound DL).

The Cowboys had DL as there no.1 priority position of need in 2005, and no. 2 was OLB. When the Cowboys came to pick in the 1st round of the 2005 draft, they had a dilemma. Demarcus Ware was the BAPON on the draft board, but the no.1 priority position of need fit was Marcus Spears, DL, LSU from Southern Lab High in Baton Rouge, and Nick Saban Coached. Parcell's loved Ware saying he reminded him of a retired LB in FL (LT), however his no. 1 priority need was not the no.1 player on the draft board. So the Cowboys personnel department (Jeff Ireland, others) had to conveince him to stick to the board and draft Ware then hope that Spears fell to their 20 pick in the 1st round or they could trade up to snatch him. Parcells did not want to take the risk but he also knew about the Cowboys not sticking with the BAPON draft board leading the all the sorry Larry Lacewell drafts that he required Jerry Jones to fire for Parcells to Coach the Cowboys. So, the Cowboys stuck with the BAPON and drafted future Hall of Fame and Ring of Honor OLB Demarucs Ware. The remainder of the draft BAPON was used and the Cowboys went for 4-3 to 3-4 in one draft, creating a playoff/super bowl caliber defense that continued through the lousy coaching and coaching carousel of Son of Bum, and that Red Head clapping idiot who finally wasted what was drafted in 2005.

BAPON was the method used by Gil Brandt/Wooten during the Landry years (20 consecutive winning seasons) before Landry got more involved in personnel decisions in the mid/late 80's. BAPON was used masterfully by Jimmy Johnson/Ackles/Wooten to build the Cowboys Dynasty of the 90's. BAPON was totally neglected during the Jerry Jones/Lacewell years. BAPON was brought back during the Parcells years (see the trade down in 2004 that lead to the 2 1st round picks in 2005). Neglected again during the Jerry Jones/Tom Ciskowski years. After the 2013 fiasco (trade down not using BAPON) BAPON was brought back by Will McClay. However Jerry still can mess it up when he listens to coaches vs. scouts see the Hill DT pick, and the waste of former 1st round pick Taco Charlton, who had as many sacks as Demarcus Lawrence in less games last year for the Dolphins as Lawrence cost per sack total was $4M less than Taco.

When you draft the Best Available Player of Need according to your draft board, you will pass on Johnny Football, and draft a OG from Notre Dame named Zach Martin. Keep yourself and your coaches out of the selection process, and never draft the best available player without looking at prioritized needs or you will end up with 4 WR as your number one pick 4 out of 5 years.
Of course teams draft BPA, they just don't do it with every pick. I don't think anyone would suggest that completely ignoring team needs for the entirety of every draft would be a good policy.
 

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So funny. If Dallas reached for a safety that the whole league saw as a second round talent, everyone would be killing them for reaching for need, and they would be right to kill them. That's how you build a nice mediocre roster. When you can get a Blue chip player ESPECIALLY in the 2nd half of the first round, you do not hesitate, or you end up with Taco/Shante/Kavika/Ebenezer/Barbie....
 

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all i know is that in the nfl it takes one play for a strength to become weaknesses and any position to suddenly become a need so imo ur better off just picking the best players.
 

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all i know is that in the nfl it takes one play for a strength to become weaknesses and any position to suddenly become a need so imo ur better off just picking the best players.
I am glad the Cowboys did not pick the BPA. They would have ended up with WRs at every position in this draft as this draft was loaded with WR value having 37 drafted rounds 1 through 7. Plus the Cowboys signed 3-4 as UDFA.
 

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BPA is flexible within a window, not set in stone. Like a player you have at 165 is still available at 172 but it's a RB and player 167 is there and fills a need. You go 167. No one is doubting that. Why would this team go RB but I'm sure that fell to them at some point. So you see what you like within that few pick window. Tiers of 5?, not singular picks. I don't think any team in the league does that. You only have a specific amount of time to build a rather large roster. And if you're set somewhere, you're either trading out or going nearest player.
 

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all i know is that in the nfl it takes one play for a strength to become weaknesses and any position to suddenly become a need so imo ur better off just picking the best players.
Let me guess, you used to be GM of the Lions.

The strategy you're suggesting leads to failure.
 

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Drafting BPA seems to have been a success this year. If not, what is everyone missing here?
 

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Just because he fills a specific need does not mean he was not the BPA concurrently. It's just your opinion that disagrees.
I think you're speaking in code.

Not opinion. I'm going by the expert's ratings. It's your opinion that is so terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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