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Thehoofbite;1988383 said:
Doesn't but do you think a late 3rd rounder could play that #3 spot right away?

And I mispoke, I meant to ask about WR instead of RB.

does where you get drafted determine how quickly you see the field?

bkight13;1988385 said:
The NFL is a passing league and a 3rd CB is on the field a lot. The draft has 5-6 CBs worthy of a 1st Round pick and taking one in the draft is a lot cheaper than Free Agency.
doesn't mean 5-6 cbs are a sure lock for the 1st round and i bet half of them will be busts. jerry will sign a fa cb too don't worry. but if you guys are banking on a rookie cb or 2 to put us over the top than it just further proves my point on drafting mcfadden. draft is for the future and fa is for imediate playing time and production.
 

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bkight13;1988385 said:
The NFL is a passing league and a 3rd CB is on the field a lot. The draft has 5-6 CBs worthy of a 1st Round pick and taking one in the draft is a lot cheaper than Free Agency.

I'm not sure about the 5-6 CB's being worthy of a 1st rd pick (there may be 4-6 picked in the first rd, doesnt mean they are worth it)...DRC and McKelvin definitely are (and both could easily go before we pick at 22)...Talib has bust written all over him...so does bad attitude Mike Jenkins...Reggie Smith is probably more of a safety..Flowers doesnt look like a sure fire 1st rd pick either and he may have to move to safety as well...Cason isnt going in the first rd either

thats why if we cant get either of the top-2 guys, I wouldnt take one until the 2nd or 3rd rd...I'd look at somebody like Auburn's Patrick Lee, IU's Tracy Porter or maybe even UConn CB Tyvon Branch...they dont have the speed issus some have (like Cason, Talib or Flowers) or the attitude problems (Jenkins)

David
 

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Thehoofbite;1988410 said:
Are you really looking for answer?
no i'm not. hopefully jerry/wade can find us a decent player with 1 of the many draft picks that we have beyond round 1 ya know?
 

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Rampage;1988365 said:
i bet a few rookie cbs are gonna "fix the holes at cb" and propel us to a superbowl:rolleyes: did you forget about the fat guy playing ss for us?

That is another reason why we must address the secondary early like the first day and hopefully in the first round.
 

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I LOVE ME SOME ME!;1988429 said:
Mcfadden is so overrated its ridiculous.

oh yeah he's overrated alright...215lb RB's that run 4.3 40's and dominate the NCAA's best conference and most talented defenses for 3yrs are definitely not worth thinking about

:rolleyes:

David
 

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dbair1967;1988475 said:
oh yeah he's overrated alright...215lb RB's that run 4.3 40's and dominate the NCAA's best conference and most talented defenses for 3yrs are definitely not worth thinking about

:rolleyes:

David

Exactly. You don't become 2 time Heisman runner-up and 2nd all time in the SEC behind Herschel because you're overrated.
 

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Im saying Kenny Phillips at 28, then send Roy, Akin, 22 to Arizona for Fitzgerald.
 

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I think a trade down is very possible if not likely.

I'd imagine we like a few players at 22 and 29 but if the value isn't there at either selection I bet we drop a bit. We have gotten much better at dropping instead of reaching and it has allowed us to accumulate picks and add talent overall.


If we want DRC at 22 but he goes off the board and then Wash takes the WR we target(perhaps Hardy) we should then drop. If you try to stick just for the sake of sticking and grab guys who would have been there at 29 anyways you are just giving away a 3rd rounder who could be a long time player in this league.

The only way I see us sitting there and selecting at those spots is if the draft falls perfectly for us.
 

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jterrell;1988525 said:
I think a trade down is very possible if not likely.

I'd imagine we like a few players at 22 and 29 but if the value isn't there at either selection I bet we drop a bit. We have gotten much better at dropping instead of reaching and it has allowed us to accumulate picks and add talent overall.


If we want DRC at 22 but he goes off the board and then Wash takes the WR we target(perhaps Hardy) we should then drop. If you try to stick just for the sake of sticking and grab guys who would have been there at 29 anyways you are just giving away a 3rd rounder who could be a long time player in this league.

The only way I see us sitting there and selecting at those spots is if the draft falls perfectly for us.

That's why I said we should be prepared to trade up and get the players we want. I agree with everything you said.
 

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dbair1967;1988475 said:
oh yeah he's overrated alright...215lb RB's that run 4.3 40's and dominate the NCAA's best conference and most talented defenses for 3yrs are definitely not worth thinking about

:rolleyes:

David

If he is overrated then we need some more overratedness on our team.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1988341 said:
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whos beating a camel thats laying down?

;)
 

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What we do with our 2 first rounders depends on whose available that we'd want when the draft is within 10 picks of our 22nd pick. Don't think we'd move up for any player except a CB like McKelvin or Cromartie. Also Jenkins is rated highly so why are some on this board referring to his poor attitude; can somebody provide details please. Thanks.

Now, if the draft plays out that nobody we want is available when it's our turn, got no problem moving down a little to grab the player we want. Wouldn't be surprised to see us trade one of our first rounders away if it gains us 2 2nd rounders to go with our own 2nd rounder. It all depends on whose there. Worst scenario is that all the elite CBs & RBs are gone when it's our turn.
 
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dbair1967;1988475 said:
oh yeah he's overrated alright...215lb RB's that run 4.3 40's and dominate the NCAA's best conference and most talented defenses for 3yrs are definitely not worth thinking about

:rolleyes:

David

He is not worth trading up to get, thats why i say hes overrated. He doesn't seem like anything special to me besides that. That SEC crap means nothing to me or the NFL because if it did im guessing Tim Tebow is a god qb. Whatever
 

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bkight13;1988335 said:
If we can get a CB at #22 I'm all for trading down from #28, but only if we get multiple 2nd or 3rd rounders this year. The draft is deep for RBs but top heavy and most WRs don't look to be 1st rounders. There are a few teams with early 2nd rounders that may want to move up to get a QB.


I couldn't agree more. I think it would be great to trade one of those ones for extra picks esp an early second. I'd love to pick up F Jones and one of the better CBs or WRs depending on who we pick in the first. In fact, I think we go CB, trade down 28, pick up Jones, then get another CB or a WR in the second.
 

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Rampage;1988362 said:
but everybody knows jerry has several available trading partners in the top 5

Jerry has the same amount of trading partners in the top 5 as any other team (who isn't in the top 5 themselves).......5

I really wanted McFadden, but we're not a RB away from winning the super bowl and McFadden as great as I think he'll be, isn't a once in a life time prospect, so why give up so much for him? Fill several holes going into next year instead of 1 and then if we're a RB away from winning it all, we can make a move for one. RBs are very under appreciated in the NFL, we can either make a move for the next big RB or a current guy like a Stephen Jackson, Duce McCallister or Chester Taylor will be available
 
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