Norm talks Cowboy's WR concerns - 6/30/08

[dcfanatic]

Norm talks concerns at WR

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I really hate the 'I' word. And I hate the idea of picking up any WR's on their last legs just as much.

 

[Boysboy]

Norm talks concerns at WR

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I really hate the 'I' word. And I hate the idea of picking up any WR's on their last legs just as much.

Frankly-our run game was a much more of a concern last year(with Julius, obviously, being that weak link).

For now-not only I'm happy with our current WR crops, but I'm much more relieved about our run game w/ Felix/Barber, and possibly Choice stepping up this year. Hopefully, our O will open up much more.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Frankly-our run game was a much more of a concern last year(with Julius, obviously, being that weak link).

For now-not only I'm happy with our current WR crops, but I'm much more relieved about our run game w/ Felix/Barber, and possibly Choice stepping up this year. Hopefully, our O will open up much more.

I will agree on the running game concerns. We need to run better... more effectively.

With that said... If TO goes down we will go no better than .500 in the games he is not playing.

Moral of the post.... WR is STILL a MAJOR concern.

 

[dbair1967]

I will agree on the running game concerns. We need to run better... more effectively.

With that said... If TO goes down we will go no better than .500 in the games he is not playing.

Moral of the post.... WR is STILL a MAJOR concern.

It depends...if the running game is improved (and it almost assuredly will be) along with what should be a vastly improved defense in its second season of Wade's scheme, along with very good special teams (good kicker, good punter, excellent return guys) we should be able to survive better this yr if Owens were to miss some time

He's clearly an integral part of the team, but this yrs version is equipped to better handle his loss than either of the last two teams

David

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

He's clearly an integral part of the team, but this yrs version is equipped to better handle his loss than either of the last two teams

Pure speculation at this point.


Owens missing time - we know what happens then.

 

[Disturbed]

I will agree on the running game concerns. We need to run better... more effectively.

With that said... If TO goes down we will go no better than .500 in the games he is not playing.

Moral of the post.... WR is STILL a MAJOR concern.

I think the team needs to test the newer younger WR early in the season by giving TO a rest on some series and expecting / demanding the new guys step up and deliver. This will give them experience and confidence they can use later in the season. All while keeping TO fresh -- TO can even watch and help coach them up.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think the team needs to test the newer younger WR early in the season by giving TO a rest on some series and expecting / demanding the new guys step up and deliver. This will give them experience and confidence they can use later in the season. All while keeping TO fresh -- TO can even watch and help coach them up.

They will have to be "tested" with TO on the field. "Taking him out" could be difference in win or loss... no thanks.

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

I think the team needs to test the newer younger WR early in the season by giving TO a rest on some series and expecting / demanding the new guys step up and deliver. This will give them experience and confidence they can use later in the season. All while keeping TO fresh -- TO can even watch and help coach them up.

you dont pay 25 mil to "watch".

 

[Disturbed]

you dont pay 25 mil to "watch".

I didn't say do it all the time. Just enough to know what we have in the young guys. And I want TO fresh and ready for the SB run after the first part of the season. Testing with TO on the field is like having a crutch - you will always look better than you really are with him on the field.

As good as this team is at this point, we should be able to test the new guys in a series or two without jeopardizing the whole game against some of the middle of the pack competition.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I believe we are ok.....

 

[big dog cowboy]

While WR is still my top concern, it isn't as big of a concern since I feel we have upgraded our running game.

It still wouldn't shock me if we made a move for a top shelf WR in August.

 

[J-DOG]

I will agree on the running game concerns. We need to run better... more effectively.

With that said... If TO goes down we will go no better than .500 in the games he is not playing.

Moral of the post.... WR is STILL a MAJOR concern.

You could say that about a lot of teams if they lost thier stud wr.
I'm more concerned with a consistent running game than our passing game.
I felt there were times where we relied on our passing game to much last season.

 

[jterrell]

Sorry but the running game does nothing directly to effect my comfort level with our passing game. That comfort level is low.

On 3rd and 6 we need a pass for 7 or more yards. And even with a good ground game we will face those situations.

I am glad Felix Jones can receive the ball out of the backfield but as a rookie I am not sure he goes high up on the 3rd and 6 option list. Right now to me that list is 2 deep. Witten then T.O. What we need is an automatic 3rd guy and Crayton CAN be that. He is clearly not a star but he has can run routes and has great hands. You need that possession type guy who you can count on for key first downs. BUT, Crayton has to fill that role and not get lost in his own attempts at stardom.

I understand a lot of folks wanna see the young guys. But again on 3rd and 6 I do not see them getting the ball. They are just too unproven and when they have been tested thus far they are clearly more explosion then reliability. That' where Terry Glenn comes in. If he can play he can get you a 7 yard out as quick as any player in the NFL. That takes the offense to an entirely new dimension when the field is balanced and you can hit guy on either side plus in the middle.

 

[leeblair]

I think the only thing wrong with our wide recieving corps is that they don't utilize Sam Hurd enough;

And, that they don't utilize Miles Austin enough.

Miles Austin can stretch the field quick. Sure, he's dropped some, but so has
T.O.

I think Hurd is our 2nd, and Miles is our 3rd.


And, I think our problems with the run game last year were self-inflicted due to the controversy over running backs- and it was stupid. It caused a division amongst the team, and fans, and it became personal with too many people.

I love the acquisition of Felix Jones simply because he won't have the shadow of a controversy hanging over his head, and the team won't be wondering who's going to be the 'guy' when it comes to the run game.

It will become clear after about 6-8 games.

We had two good backs. No need for a controversy.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree that if the Cowboys running game shows a major improvement then it clearly could help this team should a guy like TO go down for a few games. If Dallas can force teams to respect our running game it will open up the passing games as defense start crowding the line of scrimmage and the other thing is the running ability to keep us in shorter down and distance situations. No doubt we would not be as explosive but a strong running game along with a strong defense can carry a team

 

[Stash]

I feel better about the running game, but I still have questions after Owens.

Take a look at the 'pedigree' of the players we have if something happens to TO.

Glenn's 'situation' is an obvious area of concern. Even if he does sign his tender, there's no guarantee if or how much he can contribute.

Crayton is a 7th rounder

Hurd was undrafted

Austin was also undrafted

Stanback is a 4th rounder attempting a positon switch to receiver

Are we really arrogant enough to think that we can find not just one but multiple 'gems' that the rest of the league somehow missed?

 

[joseephuss]

I feel better about the running game, but I still have questions after Owens.

Take a look at the 'pedigree' of the players we have if something happens to TO.

Glenn's 'situation' is an obvious area of concern. Even if he does sign his tender, there's no guarantee if or how much he can contribute.

Crayton is a 7th rounder

Hurd was undrafted

Austin was also undrafted

Stanback is a 4th rounder attempting a positon switch to receiver

Are we really arrogant enough to think that we can find not just one but multiple 'gems' that the rest of the league somehow missed?

At some point a player becomes judged at what he does in the NFL and not what round they were drafted. Crayton has reached that point. He should no longer just be looked at as a 7th rounder. He has played well for two straight seasons. He is what he is, a very good #3 WR who has shown to be okay in the #2 role.

Hurd, Austin and Stanback have not reached that point.

 

[Boysboy]

I feel better about the running game, but I still have questions after Owens.

Take a look at the 'pedigree' of the players we have if something happens to TO.

Glenn's 'situation' is an obvious area of concern. Even if he does sign his tender, there's no guarantee if or how much he can contribute.

Crayton is a 7th rounder

Hurd was undrafted

Austin was also undrafted

Stanback is a 4th rounder attempting a positon switch to receiver

Are we really arrogant enough to think that we can find not just one but multiple 'gems' that the rest of the league somehow missed?

Last I checked-we have like 11 starters on O and 11 starters on D.

Pt being that every team gets like 1-2 1st round picks, and 2-3 overall first day picks(at most) per year. It's not like EVERY single position on the team requires a 1st round and/or 1st day selection.

BTW-last I checked, Owens was a THIRD ROUND PICK.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Take a look at the 'pedigree' of the players we have if something happens to TO.

Glenn's 'situation' is an obvious area of concern. Even if he does sign his tender, there's no guarantee if or how much he can contribute.

Crayton is a 7th rounder

Hurd was undrafted

Austin was also undrafted

Stanback is a 4th rounder attempting a positon switch to receiver

Are we really arrogant enough to think that we can find not just one but multiple 'gems' that the rest of the league somehow missed?

Romo = undrafted

 

[Stash]

Last I checked-we have like 11 starters on O and 11 starters on D.

Pt being that every team gets like 1-2 1st round picks, and 2-3 overall first day picks(at most) per year. It's not like EVERY single position on the team requires a 1st round and/or 1st day selection.

BTW-last I checked, Owens was a THIRD ROUND PICK.

I'm not suggesting that you need a 1st rounder at every position. But some sort of draft pick investment isn't too much to ask, is it?

Where would this team be right now if it wasn't able to capitalize on receivers in bad situations on other teams?

Keyshawn, Glenn, and Owens were all available because they had 'issues' surrounding them.

How long can this team depend on that?