Normally failure creates change

[kskboys]

I really don’t know where the ‘Dallas drafts well’ narrative came from. They’ve blown many premium picks, especially day two.

McVay and Snead vs Shoddy and Jerry. As one example, that’s game over before it begins.

They think their failure is about bad luck. That should tell everyone all they need to know. There’s at least a dozen people around here that I’m positive would run the team better than the ones who actually do.

Unfortunately Jerry is an expert at selling failure, and “loves working with his kids.” Ok, yeah great.

I think it was after getting Lamb and a few 1st round OLs right. However, the cheerleaders didn't notice that mixed in were Trysten and Taco and Schooner and Kelvin and some other obvious busts.

 

[Bobhaze]

I think it was after getting Lamb and a few 1st round OLs right. However, the cheerleaders didn't notice that mixed in were Trysten and Taco and Schooner and Kelvin and some other obvious busts.

And our draft “strategy” seems to be centered around hitting on round 1, letting Jerry “have some fun” on Day 2 by drafting a guy with “first round talent” but recovering from a serious injury or mental health issues, and taking Day 3 guys that don’t align to their schemes.

Round 2 seems to be JJ’s playground. Designed to make him look like a “genius” for taking a guy way too early because he can take chances. Just plain stupid.

We’ve had some draft hits for sure. But not as many as our fans here think. And when your philosophy is “draft and develop” without serious FA additions, everything rests on the draft.

Last year we opened the season at Cle and we started 5th rd CB Caelon Carson w/out blinking an eye because they think because they drafted him, he’s automatically good enough to plug and play. In nearly two whole seasons, Carson looks bad. And our 3rd rd LB from 2024 Marist Liafau can only seem to get on the field for STs play.

Who are we currently developing? Ryan Flournoy looks like a gem from the 6th round. Nathan Thomas? Maybe as a decent backup. Point is on a draft and develop heavy team this organization is missing on a lot of players.

 

[DZSierra]

Instead of making of cold, calculated decisions based on what gives us the absolute best chance to win, he makes decisions based on his personal comfort and marketing instincts. A great idea if you are selling products but a deadly idea if you are focused on winning a championship.

That's a better point than I made LOL

You're 100% correct. I guess Jerry is a "players GM" if your on his good side because you have job security and have some leeway on how well you play.

I'm not a birds fan, but I can't help but respect the manner Roseman runs the birds. At the end of the day, it seems his only goal is to win, and he will make any necessary moves per players, coaches or cheerleaders to increase their chance of winning going into the following year. Honestly, I could see that guy trading Hurts and Brown if he thought it was the best course of action for them. The guy always seems to come out smelling like a rose trading key players.

It blows me away that in the last 25 years, the birds have been in 35 playoff games. I'm a key proponent of studying your enemy and know how they work. When you read up on Roseman and how he got into the business, you can't help but respect the man.

 

[stuckindc]

There’s only one change this organization needs.

And until it happens, nothing changes

 

[JoeKing]

Failure may create changes but first it must be acknowledged. 30 years of failure tells me the FO isn't acknowledging the failure and thus not making enough of the needed change.

 

[dupree89]

Failure may create changes but first it must be acknowledged. 30 years of failure tells me the FO isn't acknowledging the failure and thus not making enough of the needed change.

thank you Joe. Stephen already told us this week on radio. They are just gonna continue on choppin wood til this team gets to where it needs to be.

 

[TheRunningMan]

Until people start "complaining" with their wallet and viewership? Nothing will change. Again, the Cowboys are a football business primarily.

But i dont know if that will impact change... i mean if Cowboys fans stop showing up to the stadium. That stadium will be packed with the opposing teams fans. So Jerry will still be laughing all the way to the bank.

But fans need to be loud with their mouths and economic power. STOP SPENDING YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY ON THE PRODUCT IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT.

 

[LysleE]

Except when your narcissistic owner wears perpetually rose-colored glasses and rates the season by the number of moral victories vs actual victories.
Jerry will in his best carnival barkers voice sell the masses on a new improved team, dedicated to winning. But we fans know it is just the same old rhetoric only dusted and polished to appear new.

 

[Blackrain]

When you are successful enough to market a team that only wins seven games to have 23 million people viewing it on television why are you going to change.

Other teams need to win 15 games to get that kind of viewing audience.

Jerry is successful at what he wants to be successful at and that is being a profitable franchise he knows how to do it best.

He is also proven that you don't have to be a winner to be the most profitable he's proven it positive for 30 some years now.

He is just a guy that wants something different from his football ownership and experience then the fans want.

We are The unlucky group of fans that has to tolerate this so it is what it is we can jump up and down on this forum make a million threads about it

We can formulate and bench race every plan known to man to get to the Super bowl but it means absolutely nothing when the guy who owns and manages the team does not make it his priority.

Does it make you feel sad and hopeless as a fan sure is it a reality yes.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Watching the moment some posters realize... the plan is working and it was never about winning... welcome to the Jones Cowboys...sit a spell, kick your shoes off, the circus is the plan...

 

[Blackrain]

Watching the moment some posters realize... the plan is working and it was never about winning... welcome to the Jones Cowboys...sit a spell, kick your shoes off, the circus is the plan...

It's about being the most profitable franchise fans want more trophies in the case for Jerry looks like three's enough.

I mean when you look at it Jerry makes a lot of sense is it worth spending all those millions to have another silver trophy in the case or is it worth saving that money and leaving it to your family.

Can guarantee he knows the price it would cost to win a Super bowl.
A billionaire with his power and resources he is more than capable of getting us there anyone who thinks he's not is just a fool .
We are not there because it's not nearly as profitable as hanging around the rim and saving the resources necessary to win the ultimate prize for the fans.

 

[TheRunningMan]

When you are successful enough to market a team that only wins seven games to have 23 million people viewing it on television why are you going to change.

Other teams need to win 15 games to get that kind of viewing audience.

Jerry is successful at what he wants to be successful at and that is being a profitable franchise he knows how to do it best.

He is also proven that you don't have to be a winner to be the most profitable he's proven it positive for 30 some years now.

He is just a guy that wants something different from his football ownership and experience then the fans want.

We are The unlucky group of fans that has to tolerate this so it is what it is we can jump up and down on this forum make a million threads about it

We can formulate and bench race every plan known to man to get to the Super bowl but it means absolutely nothing when the guy who owns and manages the team does not make it his priority.

Does it make you feel sad and hopeless as a fan sure is it a reality yes.

The Philadelphia Eagles had massive viewership in the 2025 NFL season, with their Week 2 game against the Chiefs drawing a huge 33.8 million viewers (Fox's best ever) and their season opener vs. the Cowboys getting 28.3 million, showing strong fan engagement despite a delay. Other games like Week 10's Monday Night Football against the Packers pulled over 20 million viewers across ESPN platforms, highlighting the team's consistent high ratings throughout the season, making them a huge draw for NFL broadcasters.
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Eagles have never won 15 games in a season ever. And their games routinely are high ratings and viewership. They somehow seem to manage to retool, refocus, reload, rebuild and win.

Crazy! Now i understand that Philadelphia is the 5th highest media market in the country for sports. But at some point the excuses gotta stop for Jerry.

 

[DZSierra]

Can guarantee he knows the price it would cost to win a Super bowl.
A billionaire with his power and resources he is more than capable of getting us there anyone who thinks he's not is just a fool .
We are not there because it's not nearly as profitable as hanging around the rim and saving the resources necessary to win the ultimate prize for the fans.

I moved to NC around 2000.

Everyone was either a Commanders fan (before Carolina started) or went over to the panthers.

It wasn't until 2019 I started seeing people in my BFE rural town wearing Eagles jerseys.

Being a Yankee, curious were if the people wearing the shirts were Yankee's as well, so I'd just ask them where they're from. First words out of their mouth I knew they were local LOL

Here is my point....

Winning over time generates a fan base. Yes, bandwagon fans, but fans that can spend money.

Jerry IMO has been living off of what Jimmy brought him, and sooner or later, other teams are going to catch up.

 

[Diehardblues]

Excellent points DZ.

I’ve always found it strange that in the last two decades, Jerry always wants to “keep the band together” when that band has done almost nothing in the playoffs. It’s one of the many reasons he is a terrible GM. He thinks like a fan.

We all have favorite players and pet cats as fans. It’s just what fans do. Fans are typically emotional, not objective. That explains JJ as a GM. He makes emotional decisions often based on trying to prove he is a “football guy” or personnel guru which he clearly is not.

Instead of making of cold, calculated decisions based on what gives us the absolute best chance to win, he makes decisions based on his personal comfort and marketing instincts. A great idea if you are selling products but a deadly idea if you are focused on winning a championship.

And that’s exactly what he’s doing. KSK (Kevin)said it best many years ago. “ our owner runs Cowboys Football thru the eyes of a fan “.

Winning a championship would be an accident . Jethro has even said his priority is remaining relevant and interesting.

But yet we still expect more. Not sure why anymore. The Cowboys are no longer a championship caliber franchise. That’s distant history.

 

[Diehardblues]

I moved to NC around 2000.

Everyone was either a Commanders fan (before Carolina started) or went over to the panthers.

It wasn't until 2019 I started seeing people in my BFE rural town wearing Eagles jerseys.

Being a Yankee, curious were if the people wearing the shirts were Yankee's as well, so I'd just ask them where they're from. First words out of their mouth I knew they were local LOL

Here is my point....

Winning over time generates a fan base. Yes, bandwagon fans, but fans that can spend money.

Jerry IMO has been living off of what Jimmy brought him, and sooner or later, other teams are going to catch up.

And he’s still living off what Landry built too.

But once these last two generation of fans are gone and there still isn’t anymore success it will begin to fade at some point.

And mark my words we won’t be ran in same manner once Jethro’s gone. The Jone$ will either sell out or hire and operate as a more normal franchise .

A Jone$ could remain as Pres but won’t be GM. It was Jethro’s dream to be a GM and Celebrity Football Guy . And only reason he became an owner. Making billions is just gravy.

 

[Havic]

The curse of Jimmy Johnson continues. Coaching matters and we have an owner that has absolutely no clue to what he is doing.

 

[DZSierra]

And he’s still living off what Landry built too.

Never having lived in Texas, the only reason why I became a fan myself was because of Landry and Staubach.

You want to know what is really funny? I became a fan back then, but I couldn't tell you who the owner was!!!

 

[Blackrain]

The Philadelphia Eagles had massive viewership in the 2025 NFL season, with their Week 2 game against the Chiefs drawing a huge 33.8 million viewers (Fox's best ever) and their season opener vs. the Cowboys getting 28.3 million, showing strong fan engagement despite a delay. Other games like Week 10's Monday Night Football against the Packers pulled over 20 million viewers across ESPN platforms, highlighting the team's consistent high ratings throughout the season, making them a huge draw for NFL broadcasters.
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Eagles have never won 15 games in a season ever. And their games routinely are high ratings and viewership. They somehow seem to manage to retool, refocus, reload, rebuild and win.

Crazy! Now i understand that Philadelphia is the 5th highest media market in the country for sports. But at some point the excuses gotta stop for Jerry.

There Is absolutely no excuse for what Jerry is doing to the fans it's absolutely full bore Stone corrupt.
What he's doing goes directly against everything the game was meant to be it's all about winning and getting to the Super bowl and winning the trophy .

It's not supposed to be about business decisions.

Jerry has changed the playing field he has made it about being the most profitable franchise while hanging around the rim and giving the fans some good football to watch once in awhile always being in the hunt but never winning the big prize.

Jerry is a master manipulator who has corrupted the game and used it in a way that gives him maximum profit and the fans maximum heartache

 

[Bobhaze]

That's a better point than I made LOL

You're 100% correct. I guess Jerry is a "players GM" if your on his good side because you have job security and have some leeway on how well you play.

I'm not a birds fan, but I can't help but respect the manner Roseman runs the birds. At the end of the day, it seems his only goal is to win, and he will make any necessary moves per players, coaches or cheerleaders to increase their chance of winning going into the following year. Honestly, I could see that guy trading Hurts and Brown if he thought it was the best course of action for them. The guy always seems to come out smelling like a rose trading key players.

It blows me away that in the last 25 years, the birds have been in 35 playoff games. I'm a key proponent of studying your enemy and know how they work. When you read up on Roseman and how he got into the business, you can't help but respect the man.

Like you DZ, I hate Philly but I would be lying if I didn’t say their GM runs circles around our FO duo who thinks they are just “unlucky”.

Add rams GM Les Snead to the names of great GMs the Jones boys should study. (He’s 29 years younger than our GM)

I wish I had a dollar for every time one of our fans the last decade has laughed at the rams being “too aggressive” with their cap, trading draft picks, etc. And they have 2 NFC championships and a Lombardi to show for it with two different QBs and host of different players. Meanwhile as Stephen constantly reminds us, “we are more cap responsible”.

When you have a GM who knows what’s he’s doing, is held accountable to succeed or be fired, and has a clear vision of how to do it, you have a chance to win a championship.

Honestly, right now we don’t have a realistic chance of winning a championship based on how this team is run. Zero.

 

[StylisticS]

Excellent points DZ.

I’ve always found it strange that in the last two decades, Jerry always wants to “keep the band together” when that band has done almost nothing in the playoffs. It’s one of the many reasons he is a terrible GM. He thinks like a fan.

We all have favorite players and pet cats as fans. It’s just what fans do. Fans are typically emotional, not objective. That explains JJ as a GM. He makes emotional decisions often based on trying to prove he is a “football guy” or personnel guru which he clearly is not.

Instead of making of cold, calculated decisions based on what gives us the absolute best chance to win, he makes decisions based on his personal comfort and marketing instincts. A great idea if you are selling products but a deadly idea if you are focused on winning a championship.

Because this “band” does enough to compete and hang around the rim. That keeps them being talked about good and bad. They aren’t bad enough to be discussed like the Browns but aren’t consistent and successful enough to be discussed like the Chiefs and that’s ok for him. Jerry realizes he isn’t competent enough to truly build a worthy Super Bowl team his way so this is the next best thing for him. Sucks for the fans but Jerry does not care for the fans.