Not enough film study per Broaddus

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It was a second interview with Blank stating that it would be done by the weekend. After he withdrew his name it took additional weeks. Do you want me to hand hold you through the logic?

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/football/2008-01-16-4239035149_x.htm


Was he offered the job? AGAIN 1 job offer. AGAIN just cause 1 team and for the sake of your argument 2 offered him a jon doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake. Doestn mean he was ready. Just means they got off and we got stuck with him. Just because 1 team is willing to make a mistake doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake for us to give a hc gig. He is over his head and it shows.
 

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Was he offered the job? AGAIN 1 job offer. AGAIN just cause 1 team and for the sake of your argument 2 offered him a jon doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake. Doestn mean he was ready. Just means they got off and we got stuck with him. Just because 1 team is willing to make a mistake doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake for us to give a hc gig. He is over his head and it shows.

Ever heard the expression 'missing the forest for a tree?' You argue minutiae and are completely oblivious to the point. I have no desire to attempt to teach you critical thinking. I am done with you.
 

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Do you think Wilcox and Heath got a lot of film time in esp looking at pro sets yada. You can break down film from one position and be lost in another. Those DBs gotta know where to be and should be looking for tells and trends and moves yada. You have to know your defense and enough of their offense to get it all. I don't think Heath and Wilcox know their own position much less their opponents.

That should be on Henderson, if you ask me.
That's part of his job as DB Coach right?
 

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I'm not saying anyone isn't doing their job. I just used him as an example. The point was many of these guys need direction and instruction watching film.

Gotcha. I don't disagree.
 

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That should be on Henderson, if you ask me.
That's part of his job as DB Coach right?

Jerome developed Joe Haden and TJ Ward. I'm pretty confident he knows what he's doing.

I'm sure it stems more from the fact that JJ and Jeff came from borderline Juco programs and have never had the resources nor the competition that they are acquainted to at this level. It's a monumental jump, there's only so much a coach can do as far as instruction, information retainment and assignment recognition is on the player, and at this level that's no easy task for a major d1 player, much less guys like JJ and Jeff. They were overwhelmed, plain and simple.
 

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Jerome developed Joe Haden and TJ Ward. I'm pretty confident he knows what he's doing.

I'm sure it stems more from the fact that JJ and Jeff came from borderline Juco programs and have never had the resources nor the competition that they are acquainted to at this level. It's a monumental jump, there's only so much a coach can do as far as instruction, information retainment and assignment recognition is on the player, and at this level that's no easy task for a major d1 player, much less guys like JJ and Jeff. They were overwhelmed, plain and simple.

I agree. I think Henderson is a fine coach.
I took Jobbs comment a little out of context, I think.
 

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There are so many fans here who are so willing to believe anything bad about this team. Suddenly we're going to ignore all the years of articles that mention film study? How about the ones about Jerome Henderson when he got hired? Do you remember that before he even spoke to the media he had broken down film on every DB?

When everyone was wondering if we were retiring Kiffin there was an article saying he was at VR working. How was he working? Studying film.

How many PCs by Jason Garrett on the day after a game do you need to hear that they have already studied the film once to get any idea of what happened? Is it ever going to sink in that the entire team 24 hours after a game, win or lose, has moved on to the coming opponent? You think they do that without film study?

How about Mike Jenkins a couple of years ago saying that no matter how early he arrives to VR he finds Tony Romo already here studying film? Remember him saying that he asks Tony for advice on other QBs?

How about the stories about Sean Lee? There was one recently that said a night security guard found him asleep on his duffel bag at 3 in the morning. There was another that said his tremendous football instincts are honed by watching film for hours just to get a read. Wasn't that by Peter King? It doesn't matter.

People actually believe Jason Witten rose to the heights he has without film study? That Ware did too? Dez Bryant sharpened his route running without film?

I hate Kickers, but didn't Todd Archer post an article before the Bears game saying that our Kicker studies every Kick Returner and Kicker for the other team, especially for away games? Did he say something about wanting to have a feel for how they battle the elements? The freaking Kicker people.

We have mountains of evidence that says our players hit the film room. One comment, by an unnamed player and suddenly these guys are slackers. Hilarious and typical.

Barry Church did NOT say that we do not study enough film. You want his exact comment? Here it is.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4721197/church-dallas-defenders-need-to-study-more



There's a big damned difference between let's do more and we don't do enough. If you can't see it that's your problem.

The question isn't whether these guys study enough film. There is no Mendoza line or litmus test to determine that. If you believe that all we need to do is watch more film and we can win football games in the NFL with warm bodies at multiple positions then you are an idiot. Plain and simple. Note that I did not name anyone that I think is an idiot. If you feel guilt, that is your problem, not mine. The question is whether they are good enough to beat the other team. The answer to that is, not with that many injuries forcing us to play guys who we would all consider camp fodder any other year. We were forced to start guys like Nick Hayden and George Selvie. We were forced to move Kyle Wilber yet again. We were forced to start Jeff Heath.

You may think all those guys need is the requisite amount of pre-approved film study to become Anthony Spencer, Jay Ratliff and Roy Williams for us, but I don't. They are decent enough to fill in when needed, but not what we should rely on as starters.

But by all means, keep looking for scapegoats and believing every bad thing said about this team. I know Commanders and Eagles fans who say less bad stuff about this team that many of you. Who have more respect for this team than many of you.

Well if you are right Hos, maybe they study film night and day and just plain suck.

Maybe the coaches just plain suck.

I mean, if all the players and all the coaches are as prepared as you say they are, why can they not even break 500 going on year 4?
 

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Well if you are right Hos, maybe they study film night and day and just plain suck.

Maybe the coaches just plain suck.

I mean, if all the players and all the coaches are as prepared as you say they are, why can they not even break 500 going on year 4?

What I am right about is that there are too many fans who want to believe every bad thing written or said about this team. There are some fans that I struggle to remember something they actually like about the team they love.

Oh yeah, the star on the helmet. Important to love that star. Shows you are a great fan if you love that star.
 

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What I am right about is that there are too many fans who want to believe every bad thing written or said about this team. There are some fans that I struggle to remember something they actually like about the team they love.

Oh yeah, the star on the helmet. Important to love that star. Shows you are a great fan if you love that star.

Your replies have been very "hostile", I don't think anyone has said anything to warrant that but here's the problem, you have attached yourself and your reputation here to Jason Garrett and it's not looking real good right now so it's coming out in you post.

I think this year JG is in desperation mode and he's making moves, oc and dc, that should have been made a long time ago hopefully they work out for us and you.
 

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Your replies have been very "hostile", I don't think anyone has said anything to warrant that but here's the problem, you have attached yourself and your reputation here to Jason Garrett and it's not looking real good right now so it's coming out in you post.

I think this year JG is in desperation mode and he's making moves, oc and dc, that should have been made a long time ago hopefully they work out for us and you.
Oh please, I have been abrasive since the first day I logged onto a forum. I am opinionated and outspoken. Big damned deal. I'm not the only one here who is, but since I support the team I profess to love it's a bad thing. I'm a nice guy, but I just don't suffer fools, and there are a lot of them around.

As to the belief by the mouth breathers that I have attached my reputation to Jason Garrett, that's plain silly. If he bombs, my knowledge of the team and the game isn't affected in the slightest. He and his team have got to prove it. I've never said differently. Not once. I know what his best players think of him. I pay more attention to them than I do the fools I mentioned above, but haven't named. If anyone feels insulted by the word fools that is their own guilt, not on me. If you want to pay more attention to the fools than men actually working for him, by all means get on with your bad self.

So, to be clear I will say it again. They have to show it. Their faith in him and the changes is nice, but faith without works is dead according to a guy in the Bible. Sounds about right to me. I think the injuries of the last 2 years should be factored in. If you don't I suppose you have your reasons. That star, love that star on the helmet.
 
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Oh please, I have been abrasive since the first day I logged onto a forum. I am opinionated and outspoken. Big damned deal. I'm not the only one here who is, but since I support the team I profess to love it's a bad thing. I'm a nice guy, but I just don't suffer fools, and there are a lot of them around.

As to the belief by the mouth breathers that I have attached my reputation to Jason Garrett, that's plain silly. If he bombs, my knowledge of the team and the game isn't affected in the slightest. He and his team have got to prove it. I've never said differently. Not once. I know what his best players think of him. I pay more attention to them than I do the fools I mentioned above, but haven't named. If anyone feels insulted by the word fools that is their own guilt, not on me. If you want to pay more attention to the fools than men actually working for him, by all means get on with your bad self.

So, to be clear I will say it again. They have to show it. Their faith in him and the changes is nice, but faith without works is dead according to a guy in the Bible. Sounds about right to me. I think the injuries of the last 2 years should be factored in. If you don't I suppose you have your reasons. That star, love that star on the helmet.

Before jg was hired I suggested that we go through the hiring process and you said we didn't need to because you knew all along that he was the right man for the job. If that's not hitching your wagon I don't know what is.

As to what his best players think of him, are the same ones that haven't won anything for him. Didn't they like Wade too, excuse me if I don't put much stock into what they think.

To me a person that doesn't want to go through due process to find a coach suitable to lead the Dallas Cowboys, that person would have to be a foo..... aww no need for name calling.
 

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Before jg was hired I suggested that we go through the hiring process and you said we didn't need to because you knew all along that he was the right man for the job. If that's not hitching your wagon I don't know what is.

As to what his best players think of him, are the same ones that haven't won anything for him. Didn't they like Wade too, excuse me if I don't put much stock into what they think.

To me a person that doesn't want to go through due process to find a coach suitable to lead the Dallas Cowboys, that person would have to be a foo..... aww no need for name calling.
You can consider me a fool if it makes you feel better about yourself. Go ahead.

I stand by what I believe, but I can move on quite easily. There is no hitch.

I am undoubtedly his most ardent supporter here, but I pale in comparison to some people I could name. I don't know him. They do.
 

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The players loved Wade Phillips too.

Honestly. Who waits around for the team to come out against their own head coach?
 

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If this is true, I think this all comes down to leadership, or lack thereof, and lack of personal accountability.

Too many times we see key players in the wrong spot or make a bad read. Is this because the guy on the other side made a great play, or the Cowboys player did not do the research (studying tendencies, abilities, and probabilities) in the film room and did not know what to expect?

I really don't know. What I do know is that only a handful of players actually look prepared and perform well week to week.
 
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