Not enough film study per Broaddus

Vanilla2

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Can Garrett force these guys to study film?

I'm pretty sure the film study falls on the the player after the meetings and what not.

This goes back to Garrett saying he wants the right kind of guys who love the game.

Maybe he's known about the lack of film study and has tried to change the culture by adding a bunch of over achievers.

From the outside looking in its pretty obvious which side spends less time watching film and I've always thought the defense was filled with dumb players
 

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He started 9 games in his career. Just look at all that time he played..


LOL there are tons of coaches that have failed that ACTUALLY accomplished things in the NFL without daddies help.

How does a QB with a 50% passing ratio in the CFL get put on America's team?

Hmmmm.....

Ever get tired of posting about something you hate so much?
 

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Except he played the game for 15 years. Under Jimmy Jonhson and Nick Saban. You guys really need to think out your criticisms instead of just making stuff up.

Except he played the game for 15 years. Under Jimmy Jonhson and Nick Saban. You guys really need to think out your criticisms instead of just making stuff up.

Have you been drinking tonight Idget? Really? 15 years under Jimmy and Nick? How about you stop making stuff up? Or did you finally let the cat out if the bag? I'm confused....
 

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Look in the mirror, pal.

Dont like me? Dont read me. Choice is yours.

It's a serious question.

I spend very little time here because of folks like you.

It's the same stuff everyday.

I just think a break might help you a bit.
 

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Being an ex-player means very little to me. He needed more experience on the other side of the current, working on a coaching staff. He did not put in the work that a Leslie Frazer did for example, 20 yrs worth. Coaches are known for having long long hours, and most of the time the ones who work the longest hours are the assistant coaches down on the totem pole. During those early years, coaches learn and develop a work ethic and successful study habits to better prepare their teams. Those years can be tough learning experience through trial/error to develop your coaching identity but nearly every head coach in the NFL has to go through those years in order to reach the pinnacle position of Head Football Coach. Jason never went through those nitty gritty years like most current head coaches in the NFL did. His quick rise up the ladder was aided by his buddy buddy relationship with Jerry Jones. His greenness gets exposed every season with his sideline issues, once again that comes from a lack of experience from him skipping those nitty gritty years. So, the comment BB made does not surprise me one bit.

Dallas is JG's last HC job. After next season he will never be a HC in the NFL again.

I read yesterday that Pete Carroll worked 20 hour days most of the season this year. He Slept in his office 5 nights a week, even made his closest family members make appointments to see him. Extreme? Absolutely. However, he has a trophy now. He learned from the guys who taught him how to have a work ethic, and eventually win at every level. JG never even lead a group of teenagers to a win. How'd anyone expect him to lead a group of grown men???
 

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I always thought stuff like that was at the player level, what separates the great from the good. You can't really make a guy study. I'm sure at the organizational level, we do film study about at the rate of everyone else, no more no less. Garrett has his flaws but he seems to me like the Dad who would be on you to study all the time, not the other way around.

Leaders are distinguished by having their subordinates listen to them and do what they say.
 

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Have you been drinking tonight Idget? Really? 15 years under Jimmy and Nick? How about you stop making stuff up? Or did you finally let the cat out if the bag? I'm confused....

This debate is actually too silly for me to bother continuing with. QBs in the NFL study film. So do offensive coaches. You guys are grasping at straws and it's not an argument worth taking seriously.
 

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This debate is actually too silly for me to bother continuing with. QBs in the NFL study film. So do offensive coaches. You guys are grasping at straws and it's not an argument worth taking seriously.


Yes like 15 years as a player qualifies you to be a hc type grasping.
 

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Come on guys, even as a player Garrett would know the signifigance of film, even if he didnt, the players do and they would stay after to do it. Not all our players are bad and Lee would know waht to do, bad coach or not. No, i think something else is being said. But i will bet my only donuts even Garrett knows that. Now possibly Kiffen was short on time, or needed more field time, i dont know how the time is split. But even if a player wants to take care of his job, hes staying after to study film. So im thinking its something else.
 

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Yes like 15 years as a player qualifies you to be a hc type grasping.

Not the same thing. We're talking about the son of a coach, a career QB, a QB coach, OC and HC here, and you're trying to make a case that he doesn't understand the importance of watching film. It's just a ridiculous argument to try to get anybody to believe.
 

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Leaders are distinguished by having their subordinates listen to them and do what they say.

Sounds like a dreadfully dull, impossible to prove cliche. For all we know, the Seahawks never listen to a word Carroll says and don't study a lick of film. Leaders are given magical status after the fact, not before.
 

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Sounds like a dreadfully dull, impossible to prove cliche. For all we know, the Seahawks never listen to a word Carroll says and don't study a lick of film. Leaders are given magical status after the fact, not before.

If we have another mediocre year, Garrett can be given the garbage can status. Because I don't care how well he looks the part, something ain't right. A leak like this film thing comes along, it points to coaching. Slack, country club stuff.
 

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Maybe you should think about what your post. Plnaying has nothing to do with coaching. 15 years as a player isn't a qualification to become a hc.

What makes you qualified to state what or does not make one qualified to be a HC?

If you want examples of guys that went from playing to coaching there are a whole slew of them. I'll take empirical evidence over angst and bias.
 

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If we have another mediocre year, Garrett can be given the garbage can status. Because I don't care how well he looks the part, something ain't right. A leak like this film thing comes along, it points to coaching. Slack, country club stuff.

Now see, that's interesting to me, you watched all of those games last year and thought we had 12-4 talent that was 8-8 because of coaching. Whereas I saw a team with 4-12 talent that somehow finished 8-8. I don't know what color the sky is in a world where Jeff Heath, B.W. Webb and straight-from-the-couch defensive linemen shouldn't add up to a mediocre team, but I'd like to see that color.
 

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I think you have a head coach who has bare resume that goes back to 2005 so he doesn't know how much film study is sufficient. He just doesn't have the experience, period. I don't care how many boat trips he takes with Jimmy Johnson, he is way to green for this gig.

ahhhh, he was player, with average talent who played in the league for a while. he was gamous for staying late, working hard andstudying film.....

you can take the horse to water, but you can't make them drink. the players are asked to study.good ones do it all the time. this points to lack of leadership in the locker room. leading by example. it also goes to assistant coaches, making themselves available to players to do film study.

this part of the culture jerry jones created.
 

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Look we all know why Garrett isn't a HC at a small school developing his skills. Because Jerry needed a puppet, he's a smart guy, maybe a good NFL HC someday, but not today.

As the GM says, he's still in training, I'm sure Jerry will order more film study after reading Broaddus's comments. The beat goes on.
 

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The guy played QB in this league, got Aikman's praise for knowing the game when he backed up Aikman, coached QBs, and has been an OC for years now counting his time as HC, and played under and around some great coaches. Do you honestly think he doesn't know how to study film, hasn't looked at more film than some of you have TV, or know the benefits of doing so?

Now if you said some play as if they aren't studying film enough then I could see your point.

I like Broaddus but he doesn't inhabit VR all the time and keep track of who's naughty and who's nice.

And keep in mind a lot of the guys playing last year on defense didn't come from big time schools with all the fine things in football to allow easy in depth study of film. Some probably don't know a lot of football speak Xs and Os. And neither do a whole lot of you people esp some of the more vocal ones.

Some of you appear to have never played the game much less coach it or even study it.
 
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