Not enough film study per Broaddus

jobberone

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He started 9 games in his career. Just look at all that time he played..


LOL there are tons of coaches that have failed that ACTUALLY accomplished things in the NFL without daddies help.

How does a QB with a 50% passing ratio in the CFL get put on America's team?

Hmmmm.....

Even for you this is a poor post. You think every coach played big time football? Some never played at all or not a lot at any level. Everyone's praising Carroll. What's his background?
 

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What makes you qualified to state what or does not make one qualified to be a HC?

If you want examples of guys that went from playing to coaching there are a whole slew of them. I'll take empirical evidence over angst and bias.

how about this: show me a former backup QB that ever coached a SB winning team. Just as valid as yours and idgets bleating
 

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Being an ex-player means very little to me. He needed more experience on the other side of the current, working on a coaching staff. He did not put in the work that a Leslie Frazer did for example, 20 yrs worth. Coaches are known for having long long hours, and most of the time the ones who work the longest hours are the assistant coaches down on the totem pole. During those early years, coaches learn and develop a work ethic and successful study habits to better prepare their teams. Those years can be tough learning experience through trial/error to develop your coaching identity but nearly every head coach in the NFL has to go through those years in order to reach the pinnacle position of Head Football Coach. Jason never went through those nitty gritty years like most current head coaches in the NFL did. His quick rise up the ladder was aided by his buddy buddy relationship with Jerry Jones. His greenness gets exposed every season with his sideline issues, once again that comes from a lack of experience from him skipping those nitty gritty years. So, the comment BB made does not surprise me one bit.

Correct. Exactly. Well written. Those who disagree are incorrect.
 

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Did Broadus identify the player? We are all assuming somebody we don't even know made that accusation and it is true. I believe Broadus, but I really question the validity of this player. Maybe he had his own agenda and made such a comment. It is also hard to believe that a man like Garrett would not place a premium on film study.

Jay Ratliff lol
 

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He said on talkin cowboys a week or so ago that a player after the saints game said we are the worst film study team he has been a part of. Here is my question to you. In all seriousness, do you believe, that Garrett believes, he will just be able to out smart the other coach so he doesn't put an emphasis on film? It seems silly that he would believe that because book smarts don't translate to football smarts, but it's all I can think of. There is no reason to not study film. The only guys you hear about constantly studying are Lee and Witten and I just want to get your opinion on why Garrett isn't emphasizing it.

audio clip?
 

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The guy played QB in this league, got Aikman's praise for knowing the game when he backed up Aikman, coached QBs, and has been an OC for years now counting his time as HC, and played under and around some great coaches. Do you honestly think he doesn't know how to study film, hasn't looked at more film than some of you have TV, or know the benefits of doing so?

Now if you said some play as if they aren't studying film enough then I could see your point.

I like Broaddus but he doesn't inhabit VR all the time and keep track of who's naughty and who's nice.

And keep in mind a lot of the guys playing last year on defense didn't come from big time schools with all the fine things in football to allow easy in depth study of film. Some probably don't know a lot of football speak Xs and Os. And neither do a whole lot of you people esp some of the more vocal ones.

Some of you appear to have never played the game much less coach it or even study it.

I think the point about JG, and I've pretty much been a supporter, is that he hasn't put in the time and isn't a well rounded coach. I think that comes from the long hours of experience many head coaches have gone through.
Playing is one thing. Coaching an entire team is another. IMO.
 

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No sure how this thread turned into the garrett qualification debate but a player said they dont watch enough film.
That in itself should have this whole fan base worried.

Either the message about hard work and study being necessary to succeed isnt getting through OR the players we have dont live the game enough to want to succeed.
Just because a guy is a RKG doesnt mean he loves the game, lots of guys we deem not rkg and are off our drsft board could very well be the EXACT type we need to win. Passion, love of the game, heart and will to win will not be found in just in choir boys
 

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Except he played the game for 15 years. Under Jimmy Jonhson and Nick Saban. You guys really need to think out your criticisms instead of just making stuff up.

Maybe there is another reason why he doesn't stress enough film.

Maybe he doesn't have the gumption to enforce his will on the players.
 

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You really need to think through your posts a little better. You're not even making serious arguments. Of course Jason Garrett knows the importance of film study.

So your premise is that the story / player is full of sh__, or Garrett is just terrible at his job?
 

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how about this: show me a former backup QB that ever coached a SB winning team. Just as valid as yours and idgets bleating

Dan Reeves was a backup QB for the Cowboys although he never played that position in the pros. He was a backup QB for South Carolina.

Tom Flores was a backup QB for the Skins and Raiders.

Holmgren was a backup QB for the Cards in St Louis and the Jets albeit briefly.

Peyton was a backup QB in the CFL and played for the Bears as a scrub QB.

On another note, if you're going to ream people then at least get your facts straight.

I see no reason either for all the venom you are constantly spewing. Knock it off.
 

jobberone

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I think the point about JG, and I've pretty much been a supporter, is that he hasn't put in the time and isn't a well rounded coach. I think that comes from the long hours of experience many head coaches have gone through.
Playing is one thing. Coaching an entire team is another. IMO.

I disagree. Go look at all the SB coaches then some 'non-SB' successful coaches in the NFL and some don't have his experience.

Landry didn't as much experience as Garrett did when he was named coach and when he was extended. You have to have 'enough' experience to sail even charted seas.

Kiffin has more experience than anyone I can think of off the top of my head but he still sucks for a lot of our fans. So clearly they pick and choose what criteria to apply when and where and how much to support their agenda regardless of the facts.

Facts. Meh who needs 'em.
 

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Maybe he doesn't have the authority to do that either.

I am sure he can try. But if the players know he lacks the mandate to cut them if they don't perform, it is pretty much just for show.

Just another advantage of having our special arrangement where the GM is also the owner.
 

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Dan Reeves was a backup QB for the Cowboys although he never played that position in the pros. He was a backup QB for South Carolina.

Tom Flores was a backup QB for the Skins and Raiders.

Holmgren was a backup QB for the Cards in St Louis and the Jets albeit briefly.

Peyton was a backup QB in the CFL and played for the Bears as a scrub QB.

On another note, if you're going to ream people then at least get your facts straight.

I see no reason either for all the venom you are constantly spewing. Knock it off.

Holy cow. I was going to bleat a reply to that, but only because he'd specifically asked, but there's nothing left of him to reply to, now.
 
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