Not your usual coaching question

Has there been an upper level QB in recent times that became significantly more accurate in the NFL? Has there been a QB that came out of college with the knock of being pretty inaccurate who then became a very accurate passer in the NFL?

Honest question.
the only one that comes to mind is Alex Smith when Harbaugh became San Fran's H.C.
he was about to be discarded and Harbaugh saved him.
Roethlisberger really excelled under Bruce Arians.
not sure those answer your question tho.
thats all I got off the top of my head.
 
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Yet, you use such ridiculous ranks during those years as your way to support your point? All that tells me is that Troy ranked as high during those years because the most of the league's passing must have sucked.

Boy, you and the other haters certainly must do better than that. Anything passing completions % below 60% is bad. Very bad. No matter how you slice it.

So explain to me how a stud and accurate passer like Troy sucked so poorly with his passing completions percentages during his last 4 years if he was one of the best of his era and supposed to make his receivers betters, according to y'alls theory? Hmm???
What is your point? Troy was better, compared to the rest of the league, than Dak is with crappy WRs. Nobody is saying that Dak has great WRs lol

Your inability to understand how different passing was in 1999 vs. now is crazy. Below 60% was the norm then.
 
At 56%-59% completion percentages during Troy's last 4 years, you are going to call that good???

Yet, you use such ridiculous ranks during those years as your way to support your point? All that tells me is that Troy ranked as high during those years because the most of the league's passing must have sucked.

?

Different era, different rules. It was a lot harder to complete a pass then. QB skills were much better in the 80s and 90s as a lot more colleges were playing a style of football that produced pure passers.
 
At 56%-59% completion percentages during Troy's last 4 years, you are going to call that good???

Yet, you use such ridiculous ranks during those years as your way to support your point? All that tells me is that Troy ranked as high during those years because the most of the league's passing must have sucked.

?

Different era, different rules. It was a lot harder to complete a pass then. QB skills were much better in the 80s and 90s as a lot more colleges were playing a style of football that produced pure passers.
 
Lots of talk here the last few days for obvious reasons. Most of the criticism being given to our HC and OC is self inflicted and well deserved, but I want to take a closer look for some of you who are really into this type of thing.
Here is a short series of questions for you really smart football gurus.
Are pro players supposed to get better from coaching? Is their development as a player expexted to be done individually once they are drafted, or does it come with the coaching they get once they arrive? I totally get that scheming and gameplannimg is where the majority of time and resources are spent, there are just so many days in a week the team can even practice, so when is there even time for one on one practice or player development? Or is that another duty for a private or personal trainer? This leads to my next questions. Have y'all seen any players get better during any given time period with this current staff? From game to game, year to year. Rookie to Fifth year? ETC?– What player(s) did we draft or acquire that have got better based on the coaching they received by this staff?
offensive line. frank pollack restored doug free's career. he coached la'el Collins to be a starter at guard and later at rt. he coached ron leary to be an exceptional player. he coached a nobody named Jeremy parnell to be good enough to get a nice free agency offer. and then there's the job he did with smith, freddy and zack. all first rouners to be sure, but not every first round o-lineman makes the probowl. and just this year we've seen Byron jones become one of the games best corners under the coaching of Kris Richard. coaching matters.
 
B/c if you've been throwing a ball for 10 years, it is what it is. You can get more consistent though, and that materializes as better accuracy numbers.

I think the biggest factor with accuracy is vision and the ability to see where to put the ball for your WR to make a play. Any QB in the league can stick it in a guy's chest, but that's not what the NFL is. This is where Dak struggles and where, say, Drew Brees is great. A guy like Josh Allen isn't going to get more accurate, he's made some of the most accurate throws you can...but he has miles to go in his consistency.
I disagree. The more you practice something the better you become. Now if you're half blind maybe not.
 
Not the same thing and you know it. Let's just agree to disagree.
It is what you just said. "The more you practice something, the better you become."

If it's not the same, then you have to agree that not all QBs have the same capacity to be accurate.
 
It is what you just said. "The more you practice something, the better you become."

If it's not the same, then you have to agree that not all QBs have the same capacity to be accurate.
It is genetics that determines how far we can take a physical attribute. As you said earlier. You can play golf daily but never be tiger woods. Neither can Damascus lawrence.
 
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