Notre Dame declines a bowl game after being left out of playoffs

[Reality]

I’m lol’ing, Kstate and Iowa St opted out of bowls too despite being fined by the Big 12. This becomes a huge trend and bowl season was be kaput outside the playoffs. NCAA will throw a fit because of all the lost revenue. This could get interesting.

My guess is if too many teams opt-out of bowl games the NCAA will speed up the expansion of the CFP to include a lot more teams.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The only problem with this is that a lot of teams do this, not just Notre Dame.

In years past, losing early was better than losing late so my thinking it if they were trying to game anything it was play tough games early and either 1) win those games by catching the teams before start playing their best football or 2) lose those games and hope stringing together 9 to 10 wins against lesser opponents will make the CFP think you are playing your best football.

Yeah but ND got their own ruling with the CFP that basically allows them to stay Indy but at the same time more often than not get one of those guaranteed at large bids.

No other team wields that kind of power or favor that also do not have to worry about a conference championship game that can make or break the team from getting in.


If they CFP follows the same basic format the next number of years, unless ND is having a down year, they will get in. Where some others will not get that benefit of the doubt.

Just like Alabama was left out last year and you can bet that sankey, sec and espn was not letting that happen again as they should not be in this year with 3 loses.

 

[DFWJC]

Looks like Baylor is turning down a bowl game as well. Not sure if they facing any fines.

Same league, so you have to assume 500k

Btw, a 500k fine would save most programs money as it usually cost about 1 million to send a team to a bowl. Guess it depends on the payout

 

[BoyzBlaster]

considering the rise of anti semitism and anti religion in the us, maybe you need to open your eyes

I didn't realize Notre Dame was a Jewish college thanks for getting me up to speed.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I think a lot of fans care.

I always like bowl game season.
Even the smaller bowls.

For some fans it might be the last time they see a number of players from their team on the field before going to the NFL or Graduating.

I also like that many times the Bowl Games will have two teams facing each other that normally would ever see each other in the regular season.

I understand some players opting out to train for the NFL but I wish they would not.

I think we are up to 9 teams opting out so far. Bowls are dead. They need to expand the playoff and let the bowls host the games.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I didn't realize Notre Dame was a Jewish college thanks for getting me up to speed.

 

[gtb1943]

I didn't realize Notre Dame was a Jewish college thanks for getting me up to speed.

reaching comprehension is your friend; I tried to help you by mentioning anti religion though I think I should have said anti christian though some people never get it anyway

 

[gtb1943]

For some schools they actually lose money going to a bowl when all costs are factored in. I can see more and more teams opting out for that reason.

 

[ghst187]

Looks like Baylor is turning down a bowl game as well. Not sure if they facing any fines.

I was wondering if Notre Dame maybe assumes that their best players will opt-out of the bowl game since they expected to be in the CFP.

As a fan, I hate when players opt-out of Bowl games, but if I were them I would do the same thing if it meant putting an NFL contract or even getting into the NFL at risk.

Even if you aren’t heading to the NFL, you get injured in a meaningless game that was optional and you lose NIL value for the following years…it’s a no-win situation for players based on the catastrophe of what’s going on within the ncaa….im lol’ing bc I think the ncaa is corrupt as heck

 

[nightrain]

Yankees, Notre Dame and the Cowboys. The trilogy of hype and the overrated.

 

[gtb1943]

Yankees, Notre Dame and the Cowboys. The trilogy of hype and the overrated.

and we all enjoy your hate

 

[thunderpimp91]

I think we are up to 9 teams opting out so far. Bowls are dead. They need to expand the playoff and let the bowls host the games.

Agree that bowls are dead....or at least dying, but 7 of those teams that opted out dont have enough wins to be bowl eligible, and the other just lost their HC. ND remains the only opt out of any significance.

 

[gtb1943]

Agree that bowls are dead....or at least dying, but 7 of those teams that opted out dont have enough wins to be bowl eligible, and the other just lost their HC. ND remains the only opt out of any significance.

you only have to have 6 wins to be bowl eligible. Which explains the number of Family Dollar types of bowls

But I can see more teams thinking about this. with bowls mattering less and less I can see schools not willing to go if it actually costs them money.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Agree that bowls are dead....or at least dying, but 7 of those teams that opted out dont have enough wins to be bowl eligible, and the other just lost their HC. ND remains the only opt out of any significance.

Correction: 3 bowl eligible teams have preemptively declined bowl invitations. ND, Iowa State, and Kansas State. But ND didn't opt out bc they were snubbed. Go read their official reason. It's very telling and probably true a lot of places. The team captains said they didn't want to play bc a lot of guys were going to be preparing for the draft or the portal and weren't planning on playing anyway. They didn't want to take the field with an unfamiliar team.

So even the teams who do accept meaningless invites may look a lot different than the team they fielded during the regular season. The NCAA landscape has changed and the bowl system didn't keep up. So, until they expand the playoff, most bowls will die off for lack of interest.

 

[Centex]

In the seventy’s the big four were the Cotton Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Rose Bowl and Orange Bowl. The Fiesta Bowl was a minor bowl.

Making a bowl was a big deal because they weren’t that many. Now there are too many as evidenced by Baylor with a losing record being invited.

I think the Notre Dame dislike was more of a regional thing due to North -South dynamics, at least in my area. I can remember a similar dislike of Penn State and Nebraska and Ohio State and even USC because they weren’t close to us. Nothing wrong with any of them, just fun regional rivalry. I don’t recall any anti Catholic or anti religious reasons.

 

[gtb1943]

In the seventy’s the big four were the Cotton Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Rose Bowl and Orange Bowl. The Fiesta Bowl was a minor bowl.

Making a bowl was a big deal because they weren’t that many. Now there are too many as evidenced by Baylor with a losing record being invited.

I think the Notre Dame dislike was more of a regional thing due to North -South dynamics, at least in my area. I can remember a similar dislike of Penn State and Nebraska and Ohio State and even USC because they weren’t close to us. Nothing wrong with any of them, just fun regional rivalry. I don’t recall any anti Catholic or anti religious reasons.

Notre Dame was blacklisted from joining the Big 10 by Fielding Yost and that has not been forgotten
Yost explicitly said he hated Catholics

and that was the major impetus in ND staying an Independent and scheduling teams nationwide

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Notre Dame was blacklisted from joining the Big 10 by Fielding Yost and that has not been forgotten
Yost explicitly said he hated Catholics

and that was the major impetus in ND staying an Independent and scheduling teams nationwide

Nobody stopped them from joining the Big East as a full member. They wanted to help in the search to bring new teams in but did not want become a member themselves in football. And it is not like the Big East had something against the Catholics. The Catholic 7 basketball teams wanted a different big east but Notre Dame decided not to join them.


Now whether or not I like ND does not matter. What matters to Notre Dame is Notre Dame.

However when the current AD goes out and complains that the ACC did not lobby for Notre Dame to get into the CFP it is pretty crazy.
They want the ACC to lobby for their football team but Notre Dame does not want to join the ACC in football. Why would the ACC lobby for Notre Dame at the expense of a full member In Miami.

But like I said, Notre Dame can do what is best for Notre Dame even if it is bad for a conference, just no need for them to feign outrage when somebody does what is best for the conference even if it is bad for Notre Dame.

 

[gtb1943]

Nobody stopped them from joining the Big East as a full member. They wanted to help in the search to bring new teams in but did not want become a member themselves in football. And it is not like the Big East had something against the Catholics. The Catholic 7 basketball teams wanted a different big east but Notre Dame decided not to join them.


Now whether or not I like ND does not matter. What matters to Notre Dame is Notre Dame.

However when the current AD goes out and complains that the ACC did not lobby for Notre Dame to get into the CFP it is pretty crazy.
They want the ACC to lobby for their football team but Notre Dame does not want to join the ACC in football. Why would the ACC lobby for Notre Dame at the expense of a full member In Miami.

But like I said, Notre Dame can do what is best for Notre Dame even if it is bad for a conference, just no need for them to feign outrage when somebody does what is best for the conference even if it is bad for Notre Dame.

actually ND has been helping the ACC and they are helping ND and unfortunately the ND AD had the mistaken impression that would matter in this case.

 

[Sydla]

Why don’t they try winning next year? They beat no ranked teams and lost to two CFP teams that will lose in the first round. They think they’re entitled to the CFP because they won a championship 38 years ago?

This is quite the take. For starters, not sure how the two CFP teams ND lost to will lose in the first round. They are playing each other.

But yeah, quality post.

 

[Sydla]

ND's backup QB, Minchey, just entered the portal. Love, Wagner, Price and a handful of other potential draftees will opt out. ND is expected a few more to hit the portal shortly. It was said they likely would have held CJ Carr out as well, especially if they were running out a 2nd string OL, so ND would have been playing in the freaking Pop Tarts Bowl with a 3rd string QB and a bunch of backups at key spots.

These games are getting more and more useless and ND and others backing out this year is just going to speed up the process of them eventually going away or being replaced with something else.