Now That Norv Looks To Be The Guy, What About The Defense???

[Beast_from_East]

Looks like all media outlets are reporting Norv is going to be the guy.

I can live with this, our offense should be awesome next year with Norv and Garrett working with Romo. I really look for Romo to take that next step now are be an elite QB. Also JuJo might actually come back to life running those "lead draws" Emmitt made a living on.

Beast is actually kinda excited about this, alot more than another year of man-boobs moping around on the sideline. Was freaking depressing watching him.

Problem is the defene guys. We cant get a current DC without making them HC under league rules. There are either assistant coaches or head coaches, none of this fluff titles like "quality control and asst HC".

So we are left most likely with Bowles. I know the players love him, like Newman and others who have made comments, but isnt he going to run the same 3-4 Tuna did? Our defense was pathetic the last month of the season, even the freaking Lions were mocking our D. How is an internal coach going to change that? Dont we need a new comer from outside the organization?

What do you guys think my friends.......

 

[Woods]

The problem is we can't get Phillips or Rivera or Ryan to make a lateral move.

And would they? They have more talent where they are currently at.

That means, our options include

1. Bowles or Pasq. (don't forget him!)

2. A guy who's unemployed like Campo. Now, that's interesting, Bowles or Campo for DC? Campo was terrible as a HC, but as a DC he's pretty good.

3. A college coach like Groh, who runs the 34. But why come here as a DC? He must get paid pretty well as it is.

4. A position coach currently playing on another 34 based team.

I think the most probable scenario if Norv is HC is either Bowles or Pasq.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The problem is we can't get Phillips or Rivera or Ryan to make a lateral move.

And would they? They have more talent where they are currently at.

That means, our options include

1. Bowles or Pasq. (don't forget him!)

2. A guy who's unemployed like Campo. Now, that's interesting, Bowles or Campo for DC? Campo was terrible as a HC, but as a DC he's pretty good.

3. A college coach like Groh, who runs the 34. But why come here as a DC? He must get paid pretty well as it is.

4. A position coach currently playing on another 34 based team.

I think the most probable scenario if Norv is HC is either Bowles or Pasq.

You make some good points, I agree that Bowles is looking like the frontrunner. I jsut hope he is alot more agressive than Zimmer was.

 

[Woods]

You make some good points, I agree that Bowles is looking like the frontrunner. I jsut hope he is alot more agressive than Zimmer was.

We can only hope.

But regardless who the is the DC, we MUST get 1 more pressure player to complement Ware, and we need to get a FS who can cover.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Norv could pack Singletary in his luggage and bring him along


The job is probably Bowles'

 

[Woods]

Norv could pack Singletary in his luggage and bring him along


The job is probably Bowles'

But in reality, isn't Singletary also an Asst. Head Coach for SF? Again, wouldn't it be a lateral move once again? I don't think SF would give us permission to talk with him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

*prays we can pull away Greg Manunsky*

 

[Billy Bullocks]

I think the biggest problem we have is we have inexperienced coaches. Garret and what looks to be BOwles. If we get Phillips/Rivera, that benefits Bowles/whoever, if we get Turner, it benefits Garret.

I feel that we should go for one of the defensive coaches, because it could help Jason Garret see how some of the top defensive minds in this league prepare for you.

Also, Don't rule out Dom Capers or someone coming in here to run the D, especially if we go with Turner, considering Jerry will be calling alot more shots than he has teh last 4 years.

 

[Beast_from_East]

We can only hope.

But regardless who the is the DC, we MUST get 1 more pressure player to complement Ware, and we need to get a FS who can cover.

Defiently we need another pressure guy, not sure how Ellis is going to be after an injury like that.

What do you think about moving Henry to FS???

 

[sonnyboy]

Looks like all media outlets are reporting Norv is going to be the guy.

Our defense was pathetic the last month of the season, even the freaking Lions were mocking our D. How is an internal coach going to change that? Dont we need a new comer from outside the organization?

What do you guys think my friends.......

I can easily see him taking over and making considerable changes.

Remember Bowles was a positional coach. He had very little to do with game planning.
I'm sure he had a lot of responsibility in so far as evaluating the film of the opponents passing game.
However, the extent of that was probably info gathering for Zimmer/Parcels.
They formulated the gameplan, they made the game day calls.
I'm sure the primary focus for Bowels was on the abilities and tendencies of the opposing skill players and how his secondary could best deal with these players. He would then "coach his players".

Bowles could take this job and field a defense that barely recognized what we saw on the field this year.
Then again, he could prove to be a lousy coordinator without much imagination. May field a carbon copy of this years defense with worse results.

I don't want to sound negative because maybe Bowles will do a great job for us as DC.
BUT, I can't say I was overly impressed with his body of work.
I saw a lot of poor secondary play this year. Guys demonstrating poor/improper technique.
Ex: Now this is something Parcells actually mentioned in a press conference and I noticed it when it happened.
Newman gives up a TD pass that he was very close to defending. He was closely trailng the WR and used the incorrect arm to defend the pass and made the play harder than it should have been just barely missing the pass.

Instructing players on proper technique is not enough.
You must convince them to use it every time.
That's the sign of a great coach.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I have NEVER liked Campo's defenses. Zero pressure and I think he is where this lame-arse "read and react" junk came from. There is a reason he is unemployed and those statistically "good" defenses he had were only good because opposing teams could run dive plays all day, score 10 pts and win. Opposing teams never had to score more points,,, if they wanted to, they could have.

Cowboys hold opponents to a 17 pt average and miss the playoffs every year,, woo hooo!! great defense!!

 

[Bizwah]

The problem is we can't get Phillips or Rivera or Ryan to make a lateral move.

And would they? They have more talent where they are currently at.

That means, our options include

1. Bowles or Pasq. (don't forget him!)

2. A guy who's unemployed like Campo. Now, that's interesting, Bowles or Campo for DC? Campo was terrible as a HC, but as a DC he's pretty good.

3. A college coach like Groh, who runs the 34. But why come here as a DC? He must get paid pretty well as it is.

4. A position coach currently playing on another 34 based team.

I think the most probable scenario if Norv is HC is either Bowles or Pasq.

Yeah, Paul P has been a head coach, and he knows defense...or so I've heard.

Garrett will have a mentor in Norv....I think Bowles will have a mentor in Paul P.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

From what I've been told, players generally like the manner in which Bowles coaches especially Terence Newman..

 

[Kangaroo]

Ok now that Norv will be the hedcoach start seeing who is a top 10 draft pick next year

 

[Future]

didnt dom capers decline his option to stay in miami?

hes a 3-4 if available

 

[Alexander]

Stop grasping at straws. No defensive mind worth his headset would take a lateral move to play third fiddle. None.

If we hire Norv Turner, each and every Cowboys fan had better get down on their knees and pray to God that Todd Bowles is the best thing since sliced bread.

I cannot believe we are this ridiculously short sighted. I am at a loss for words.

 

[Dallas]

Rivera is in the last year of his contract I thought. He is making something like 510k or /?


Should offer him a mill / and see if he want to come to Dallas.

 

[dbair1967]

The problem is we can't get Phillips or Rivera or Ryan to make a lateral move.

And would they? They have more talent where they are currently at.

That means, our options include

1. Bowles or Pasq. (don't forget him!)

2. A guy who's unemployed like Campo. Now, that's interesting, Bowles or Campo for DC? Campo was terrible as a HC, but as a DC he's pretty good.

3. A college coach like Groh, who runs the 34. But why come here as a DC? He must get paid pretty well as it is.

4. A position coach currently playing on another 34 based team.

I think the most probable scenario if Norv is HC is either Bowles or Pasq.

Campo isnt unemployed...he is DB coach in Jacksonville

David

 

[newlander]

This is a toughie. I sincerely hope it is NOT Bowles. If Parcells and Zimmer couldn't figure it out last year, what makes anyone think Bowles is the answer? I like Campo but he's a 4/3 guy, so.........I think there must be a Dick LeBeau or Wade Phillips protege out there. Someone mentioned Manusky of S.Diego? That's where I would look.

 

[03EBZ06]

Looks like all media outlets are reporting Norv is going to be the guy.

No, I won't believe it until I see the PC of announcing him as a new HC. I still believe JJ hasn't made up his mind and will interview few more candidates.