Video: O-line hitch nod to Landry

[Idgit]

I wasn't being sarcastic at all. It made me sick to my stomach to see the 3-4 running in Dallas.

Where's the 3-4 ever been really all that effective? Or dominant? It is way too complicated especially as "coached" by Rob Ryan, the players freeze up because they have to think too much, and really - it's always been vulnerable to the run.

It's the hip defense to run though, shows you're cool and all.

Oh, Ok. Good, then.

I think most people acknowledge that teams like the Dolphins and the Steelers and the Giants have used the 3-4 really effectively for a long time. I'm not knocking it as a scheme, overall. I just feel, like you do, that it was an abomination of sorts to run it in Dallas. And that's not a knock in any way on any of the great 3-4 defenders we brought in here recently. It's not on the players, it's on the scheme. Somethings traditions just shouldn't be mixed.

 

[brucekr]

As soon as I saw that, I rewound the DVR and had my wife watch it. Seriously almost brought a tear to my eye. What a nod to Landry, a much appreciated one for me.

My wife, well, she's a saints fan. So, I'm sure she cared less than she might have if it had been a different team that got slaughtered.

 

[Idgit]

As soon as I saw that, I rewound the DVR and had my wife watch it. Seriously almost brought a tear to my eye. What a nod to Landry, a much appreciated one for me.

My wife, well, she's a saints fan. So, I'm sure she cared less than she might have if it had been a different team that got slaughtered.

Tell her to take her medicine and enjoy the nod to Coach Landry and like it.

 

[boysfanindc]

That was beautiful, brought back a lot of memories.

 

[Taurus]

Oh, Ok. Good, then.

I think most people acknowledge that teams like the Dolphins and the Steelers and the Giants have used the 3-4 really effectively for a long time. I'm not knocking it as a scheme, overall. I just feel, like you do, that it was an abomination of sorts to run it in Dallas. And that's not a knock in any way on any of the great 3-4 defenders we brought in here recently. It's not on the players, it's on the scheme. Somethings traditions just shouldn't be mixed.

Well. It's designed to protect the linebackers so they can make plays. The 4-3 is designed to stop the run, make the opponent use clock time, but keep them out of the end zone.

The 70s Steelers were a 4-3. There hasn't been a truly feared, dominant 3-4 people talk about. Purple People Eaters, Doomsday 1, 2 and 3, Steel Curtain, the Bears 46, and so on - all the ones people talk about were 4-3 schemes.

Another point - injuries have alot greater negative impact on a 3-4, because of the complexity of the scheme. Bum Phillips was the first one to admit that flaw.

But then again, you're just all hip and cool and stuff, running the 3-4 while Seattle stomps you in the Super Bowl 43-8.

 

[Venger]

Weren't the Ravens first SB team 3-4?

Regardless, someone post a GIF of this already man...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

If it was all Garrett, kind of odd that he waited until his eighth year here and fourth year as HC to show it, isn't it?

Maybe it was Linehan, the guy who actually played for Landry... Even if it was just training camp.

A few years ago when we showed the Flex the first play of a preseason game, that was Ryan, as they talked about afterwards.

 

[Plankton]

Weren't the Ravens first SB team 3-4?

Regardless, someone post a GIF of this already man...

The Raiders won with a 3-4 in 1976. The 49ers won in 1981. The Giants won in 1986. The Dolphins running the 53 defense was a precursor to the 3-4, as was the odd man fronts run by the Chiefs in the late 1960s.

 

[kycowboyfan]

I saw it, and it did my old Cowboy loving heart good. A great tribute to one of my favorite figures from my youth. What a great God fearing man he was.

 

[Hoov]

If it was all Garrett, kind of odd that he waited until his eighth year here and fourth year as HC to show it, isn't it?

Maybe it was Linehan, the guy who actually played for Landry... Even if it was just training camp.

A few years ago when we showed the Flex the first play of a preseason game, that was Ryan, as they talked about afterwards.

As to whose idea it was we have to speculate.. But i would guess that the coaches showed some old footage of the Cowboys as a motivational scheme to get back to being "Americas Team" and playing with Pride. While watching the footage some players probably took note of the OLine doing that and then possibly someone (Romo comes to mind being that he's a bit of a character) asked the coaches if they could do that at the end of the game if they were ahead. They probably stayed after practice a few minuets once or twice to get it down. Hope they keep doing it as a signature kind of thing.

 

[AsthmaField]

Just super, super cool.

I'm very interested in who's idea it was. Doesn't really matter because Garrett likely had to ok it before they actually did it in a game. The OL is finally worthy of doing that.

 

[AsthmaField]

I like how some of the Saints kind of stand up like, What the.... and then get back down.

 

[Taurus]

The Raiders won with a 3-4 in 1976. The 49ers won in 1981. The Giants won in 1986. The Dolphins running the 53 defense was a precursor to the 3-4, as was the odd man fronts run by the Chiefs in the late 1960s.

And all of the biggest, most embarrassing losses in Super Bowls were for teams running the 3-4. Including just last year's game. But, didn't Denver look all hip and cool in their 3-4 while they were getting their collective butts stomped by a upfield pressure based, 4-3 Seattle defense?

 

[Plankton]

And all of the biggest, most embarrassing losses in Super Bowls were for teams running the 3-4. Including just last year's game. But, didn't Denver look all hip and cool in their 3-4?

Not sure how this is relevant to anything.

Especially considering that the Colts losing to the Jets is widely considered the most embarrassing loss in Super Bowl history (Colts were an 18 point favorite), and the Colts ran a 4-3 defense.

 

[Taurus]

Not sure how this is relevant to anything.

Especially considering that the Colts losing to the Jets is widely considered the most embarrassing loss in Super Bowl history (Colts were an 18 point favorite), and the Colts ran a 4-3 defense.

Total lack of offensive production doomed them, not their defense which actually played quite well. Actually watching that game is quite educational.

Only reason they were "embarrassed" was the supposedly "lowly" AFL wasn't supposed to be competitive.

But, didn't Denver look really hip and cool out there?

 

[WV Cowboy]

Just super, super cool.

I'm very interested in who's idea it was.

Yea, me too.

Hats off to whomever it was, .. or rather, fedoras off. (is that how it is spelled? LOL)

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If you folks want to start (yet another thread) debating "3-4" vs "4-3" go ahead and do it, but in the mean time lets stay on the topic of this thread.

 

[Plankton]

Total lack of offensive production doomed them, not their defense which actually played quite well. Actually watching that game is quite educational.

Only reason they were "embarrassed" was the supposedly "lowly" AFL wasn't supposed to be competitive.

But, didn't Denver look really hip and cool out there?

The Colt defense gave up 100 yards rushing to Matt Snell, and didn't force a turnover. I would hardly say that they played well. And, yes, I watched the game.

And, the reason why the Broncos lost last year was due to their offense being unable to handle the pressure of the Seahawk defense. Actually, the Broncos are a base 3-4 defense (they started Shaun Phillips at RDE, Kevin Vickerson and Terrance Knighton at DT, and Malik Jackson at LDE). Your basic facts are completely wrong in this.

Your derision of the 3-4 scheme is a bit odd, and really doesn't fit this thread at all. Perhaps you are the one in need of an education.

 

[Alexander]

A few years ago when we showed the Flex the first play of a preseason game, that was Ryan, as they talked about afterwards.

Yes, that no good son of Buddy Ryan already beat Garrett to the punch.

 

[50cent]

Dopeness at its best. I hate I missed it!