Offense and Dak should have won more games

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Lol. Below are the NFL teams that have allowed more than 29 ppg over the past 10 years, along with their final W-L records. 14 teams.

Facts:
- Only 7 defenses have allowed more than 30ppg in that period
- NO team allowing more than 30ppg won more games than the 2025 Dallas Cowboys.
- ONE team allowing more than 29ppg won more games than the 2025 Dallas Cowboys (Raiders with 8 in 2020).

Reach your own conclusion.

Year	Team	Allowed PPG	Record (W-L-T)
2020​	Las Vegas Raiders	29.9​	8-8-0
2025​	Dallas Cowboys	30.1​	7-9-1
2015​	New Orleans Saints	29.8​	7-9-0
2025​	Cincinnati Bengals	29.6​	6-11-0
2024​	Carolina Panthers	31.4​	5-12-0
2020​	Detroit Lions	32.4​	5-11-0
2019​	Miami Dolphins	30.9​	5-11-0
2019​	Carolina Panthers	29.4​	5-11-0
2018​	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	29​	5-11-0
2023​	Washington Commanders	30.5​	4-13-0
2021​	New York Jets	29.6​	4-13-0
2018​	Oakland Raiders	29.2​	4-12-0
2016​	San Francisco 49ers	30​	2-14-0
2020​	Jacksonville Jaguars	30.8​	1-15-0

If you have a side of the ball that is historically bad, the idea that the QB should win anyway is ridiculous.

This was the 4th worst defense in history based on DVOA.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Get a QB that can win the big moments, and maybe we win more games!

seatlle just won a game scoring 13 points. I am so jealous. in fact they won three games scoring 20 or less. when did that ever happen for us?

 

[Coogiguy03]

seatlle just won a game scoring 13 points. I am so jealous. in fact they won three games scoring 20 or less. when did that ever happen for us?

You'd think the 60 million would be an incentive to be great

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Just curious how many games did the Defense win???

seattle won three games scoring 20 or less. in fact they just won a game scoring 13.
Philly won three games scoring less than 20. one game they scored 10 and still won.
SF won 4 games scoring 20 or less. I want that
Rams won two games scoring 17 or less

Cowboys lost games scoring 27,30 and 26.

I want a dominant defense that can average around 20. and an offense that can average around 25.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You'd think the 60 million would be an incentive to be great

what does money have to do with it? is 55M not incentive to be great? and you think Dak isn't trying to be great?

vs. he is what he is. accept it. contract is in the past. and tell me if you would be happier if he made 55M?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The Cowboys are among the top spenders on the offensive side of the football, and with pending extensions for Pickens and Williams they could move up even higher on the list.

I know we want to prop up the offense and just bash the defensive players, but we have an overall roster building issue and no matter what the numbers look like its still a team game. Jerry has essentially went over his budget to buy a new lamborghini, but refused to pay for the regular maintenance and premium fuel.

The defense still should have been better than it was, but per Spotrac we had just 23% of our cap space dedicated to defensive players this year? Obviously you can get away with that as Philly is right there with us, but they've also dedicated their last 5 1st round picks to the defensive side of the football. The Cowboys are spending like crazy on offense and have used 3 of their last 4 1st rounders on offensive linemen. You can't keep dumping all your premium assets into one side of the football and wonder why the other isnt very good.

we were 7th in offensive cap (122M), 14th on defensive cap (108M). offense was top 5. defense 32nd. so wasted money on defense.

not a big difference as people like to make it. we had 22M left on the cap in 2025, including the trades we made mid season and taking on new salaries.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I agree. The offense needed to step up in the Arizona and Carolina game. Beat the Giants and now you are talking 10 wins. Maybe playoffs. The notion that this was some special offense is absurd.

I don't disagree. I think offense should have played better. but there are games they just suck and defense has to step up. seattle won three games scoring less than 20 and in their last game scored 13 points and still won. philly had a 10 point outing and still won. our defense never stepped up.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Bulk stats never tell the whole story.

The defense sucked and killed the season but they did hold the opposition to under 25 points six times.

The offense is supposedly #1 but they scored 20 or less five times.

The offense is not completely off the hook for not making the playoffs.

seattle won three games scoring less than 20. philly did the same. SF had 4 such games...sometimes the offense will suck. defense has to step up. our defense never could.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I see a couple relevant facts were left off the daily Dak affirmation thread. 471 points looks impressive on its face until you subtract the 155 points Aubrey accounted for. Means the offense itself really scored 316 points. Divide 316 by 17 gamed and Dak and the offense actually averaged 18.5 points per game.

The other thing conveniently not mentioned is Dallas was number 20 in Red Zone conversion rate. Basically bottom 3rd in the league and many stalled drives. He was given weapons and draft capital invested in the line. The highest paid player in the league gotta do better than that. Enjoy your individual stats though.

OMG. the level of stupidity in this, because you wet your pants just to post something negative about Dak. so driving down the field and getting in kicking position is not a good thing. it should be TDs every time? or else you suck!?

does 40 yard field goals not good enough? are you referring to logn field goals? did you do any comparison?

Dallas made 11 50+ yard field goals? are you claiming Aubrey saved Dak's arse? well seattle had 9 of those!? and they went 14-3. socring less than 20 3 times and winning games. jags had 8 of those field goals. texans had 48 field goals during the season, seahawks had 41, chargers 38 and then dallas at 36....lets play the same game with those teams.

take away field goals for other teams and compare...if that's your point!
Rams averaged 25.5...that's awsome
Seahawks averaged 20....just 1.5 points more.... is that the difference between a 7-9 team and a 14-3 teams? tell me what the large difference in games won?
charges averaged 15 points per game!!! and people salivate over Herbert around this neighbourhood. they were 11-6!
Niners averaged 20 points a game and went 12-5
Bears the same, 20 points a game and won the division at 11-6


so you spin a stat to discredit Cowboys, yet do it in a vaccum.....

now do I want more scoring in redzone? yes. but Dallas was 18th at 56.9%...seattle 20th. chargers 29th, houston 30th
new england was 17th, by less than 0.25%, GB was 16th by less than 1%

all those teams are in the playoffs....

by contrast best team in redzone was Philly at 70%

you can't compare things in a vaccum. its stupid. I am not defending Dak. its just that your metrics in a vaccum are totally meaningless

 

[TheRunningMan]

Lol. Below are the NFL teams that have allowed more than 29 ppg over the past 10 years, along with their final W-L records. 14 teams.

Facts:
- Only 7 defenses have allowed more than 30ppg in that period
- NO team allowing more than 30ppg won more games than the 2025 Dallas Cowboys.
- ONE team allowing more than 29ppg won more games than the 2025 Dallas Cowboys (Raiders with 8 in 2020).

Reach your own conclusion.

Year	Team	Allowed PPG	Record (W-L-T)
2020​	Las Vegas Raiders	29.9​	8-8-0
2025​	Dallas Cowboys	30.1​	7-9-1
2015​	New Orleans Saints	29.8​	7-9-0
2025​	Cincinnati Bengals	29.6​	6-11-0
2024​	Carolina Panthers	31.4​	5-12-0
2020​	Detroit Lions	32.4​	5-11-0
2019​	Miami Dolphins	30.9​	5-11-0
2019​	Carolina Panthers	29.4​	5-11-0
2018​	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	29​	5-11-0
2023​	Washington Commanders	30.5​	4-13-0
2021​	New York Jets	29.6​	4-13-0
2018​	Oakland Raiders	29.2​	4-12-0
2016​	San Francisco 49ers	30​	2-14-0
2020​	Jacksonville Jaguars	30.8​	1-15-0

What were the offenses redzone numbers? 3rd down conversions? Time of possesion?

You know the more nuanced and critical takes outside of just looking at PPG

Aka critical thinking and analysis. Bc i can assure when you look at those things there would be a lot of cold water thrown on this elite offense talk.

 

[RS12]

OMG. the level of stupidity in this, because you wet your pants just to post something negative about Dak. so driving down the field and getting in kicking position is not a good thing. it should be TDs every time? or else you suck!?

does 40 yard field goals not good enough? are you referring to logn field goals? did you do any comparison?

Dallas made 11 50+ yard field goals? are you claiming Aubrey saved Dak's arse? well seattle had 9 of those!? and they went 14-3. socring less than 20 3 times and winning games. jags had 8 of those field goals. texans had 48 field goals during the season, seahawks had 41, chargers 38 and then dallas at 36....lets play the same game with those teams.

take away field goals for other teams and compare...if that's your point!
Rams averaged 25.5...that's awsome
Seahawks averaged 20....just 1.5 points more.... is that the difference between a 7-9 team and a 14-3 teams? tell me what the large difference in games won?
charges averaged 15 points per game!!! and people salivate over Herbert around this neighbourhood. they were 11-6!
Niners averaged 20 points a game and went 12-5
Bears the same, 20 points a game and won the division at 11-6


so you spin a stat to discredit Cowboys, yet do it in a vaccum.....

now do I want more scoring in redzone? yes. but Dallas was 18th at 56.9%...seattle 20th. chargers 29th, houston 30th
new england was 17th, by less than 0.25%, GB was 16th by less than 1%

all those teams are in the playoffs....

by contrast best team in redzone was Philly at 70%

you can't compare things in a vaccum. its stupid. I am not defending Dak. its just that your metrics in a vaccum are totally meaningless

Really? Because it sure sounds like forums most bi polar poster sure spent a lot of time defending Dak the drive staller. The offense had 49 TDs. Not even 3 a gsme. I expect better than that with the money spent on that side of the ball. And by the way watch out for who you call stupid. Judging by your posts "a football savant, you aint".

 

[DandyDon52]

I agree. The offense needed to step up in the Arizona and Carolina game. Beat the Giants and now you are talking 10 wins. Maybe playoffs. The notion that this was some special offense is absurd.

they would have to have finished ahead of GB to get in playoffs, and that would be 10-6-1.
I know there were 2-3 games where offense scored 3 or less in 2nd half.
So the offense had they been better in 2nd half , and in red zone , this team could have maybe made the playoffs.
but then they would be one and done most likely.

The offense was good stat wise, but they were only "good" at times.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Really? Because it sure sounds like forums most bi polar poster sure spent a lot of time defending Dak the drive staller. The offense had 49 TDs. Not even 3 a gsme. I expect better than that with the money spent on that side of the ball. And by the way watch out for who you call stupid. Judging by your posts "a football savant, you aint".

huh? what!? facts get under your skin!.

so members of Hate Dak Over Dallas Cult as you seemingly are a long term member always say, you must poop on Dak 24x7 on every comment all the time and you have to only post about Dak, and if you don't then you are a Dak supporter....typical. btw, based on actual stats all but two teams had not even 3 TDs a game.... facts are a betch aren't they (why do you insist on keep stepping in it?).

yeah, sorry to educate you, sometimes football lessons are hard, specially for the less informed. I will keep the teachings until you learn the most basic and we go from there.

 

[RS12]

huh? what!? facts get under your skin!.

so members of Hate Dak Over Dallas Cult as you seemingly are a long term member always say, you must poop on Dak 24x7 on every comment all the time and you have to only post about Dak, and if you don't then you are a Dak supporter....typical. btw, based on actual stats all but two teams had not even 3 TDs a game.... facts are a betch aren't they (why do you insist on keep stepping in it?).

yeah, sorry to educate you, sometimes football lessons are hard, specially for the less informed. I will keep the teachings until you learn the most basic and we go from there.

Look everybody! Smartest guy in the room (in his mind of course) is here to educate us on football. If only he knew something worth teaching. Feel free to put me ignore "oh wise one".

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Look everybody! Smartest guy in the room (in his mind of course) is here to educate us on football. If only he knew something worth teaching. Feel free to put me ignore "oh wise one".

no, not everyone needs educated. but you defintley do...so I am just helping you. you should be thankful.
interestingly, you got owned and very quickly shifting away from facts and football to BS, screaming from top of your longs for help from some fellow zoners. weak, really really weak. I mean, this was really weak.


and heed your own advice. put me on ignore LOL....too funny

 

[Kumala808]

If you had a defense they could have won all of em. Well maybe not 3 or 4

 

[GINeric]

It’s not about what QB can carry this bad defense.
I can guarantee you if Dak had Houston’s defense he couldn’t get Dallas through the playoffs. Hes a choker.

It’s not about what QB can carry this bad defense.
I can guarantee you if Dak had Houston’s defense he couldn’t get Dallas through the playoffs. Hes a choker.

Hey that's your opinion. If thats what you believe, more power to ya my guy. But what hurts your argument is, you couldn't name me one quarterback who has made it to and through the playoffs with the last ranked defense. So if no other quarterback was capable of doing it, why would you expect Dak to do it?

Do you blame Dak for being unable to change his the tires on his car without a jack or a lift too?

With that said, if you put Trent Dilfer on those Buffalo Bills teams of the 90s, he wins atleast 2 Superbowls. Jim Kelly was a choker and couldn't win Superbowls like Trent Dilfer.

No disrespect to Kelly, but im just trying to abide by the guidelines of how you judge quarterback success in team sports.

 

[Gameover]

ur qb has to win a shootout. That’s the nfl these days. He played just ok that game.

shut up

 

[Gameover]

Bingo. The defense has been neglected for years, and a big reason is that Jerry feels he has to do everything possible to prop up his big bet on Dak.

False

 

[Hadenough]

But what hurts your argument is, you couldn't name me one quarterback who has made it to and through the playoffs with the last ranked defense. So if no other quarterback was capable of doing it, why would you expect Dak to do it?

I never expected Dak to be able to make it to or through the playoffs with this defense or any other defense.
There is no defense that will be good enough for Dak. He just doesn’t have that ability to perform on the bigger stages. You could give Dak the #1 defense in the league and if he has to play against any of the top ten defenses he would lose the game if it were a playoff game.