Ogletree Combine results

[CATCH17]

Anyone got some of his preseason highlights?

 

[jchocolate82]

Seems to me ones quickness is better evaluated by the shuttle than the fourty.Quickness and top end speed are not the same in my opinion.

Craig

I agree. Not only that, they also time the first ten yards in a 40 yard dash IIRC. That is more of an indicator of quickness.

Also, I think the shuttle drill is used to measure agility in change of direction.

You're both right but my point is just because someone runs a good 40 time its not the all be all if someone is fast or has another gear. The forty is a indicator of quickness because most humans reach top speed around 60m so at close to have the 60m distance the forty is in no way the ultimate speed test cause you havent even reached full speed to decide that.

 

[craig71]

You're both right but my point is just because someone runs a good 40 time its not the all be all if someone is fast or has another gear. The forty is a indicator of quickness because most humans reach top speed around 60m so at close to have the 60m distance the forty is in no way the ultimate speed test cause you havent even reached full speed to decide that.

I think that what you are trying to describe is football fast.If you'll look at some tape of guys that run a 4.35 fourty being chased down by some guy that runs a 4.57 fourty that could be what you are alluding too.Some players just play faster once the pads come on and the game starts,while others just seem to slow down.I haven't seen any tape of Ogletree playing that shows what kind of game speed that he has,so I really can't say if he has anything in the tank.

Craig

 

[TheRat]

40yd time does not measure what someones top gear is. All the 40 does is indicate what someones quickness is

wrong. 40 is straight line speed. 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone are more indicative of quickness and lateral agility.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I heard Jerry likes him.

I think there's a thread on here about it.

 

[MONT17]

Romo and OTree are going to go off!

 

[CowboyMort]

I am hoping that the guy develops as a 2nd or 3rd WR. If he exceeds those expectations then that is great.

 

[BAT]

I think everyone needs to temper their expectations for this kid. I too am eager to get him some real game work and see what he has.

But I also think he does drop catchable passes and is limited in his abilities to move for/with the ball. He does have the speed to seperate which should get him many opportunities to make a big play. But he's no Greg Jennings.

You may be right about his YAC ability (haven't seen enough of him yet myself) but dropping catchable passes was the knock on him in college, he has yet to disappoint as a WR with the Cowboys. Ogletree was pretty impressive during TC and preseason, his strengths were his hands, route running, ability to seperate and making big plays. The only time he started (last game in preseason) he was the star on offense and looked good w/both Romo and Kitna.

He does need to get stronger and perhaps showcase that 4.3 speed on offense. Although he has a better average returning kicks than Felix, so his speed is translating on ST at least.

 

[casmith07]

His injury history probably scared a lot of scouts off. Also, not a ton of highlight films since he played on a terrible UVA team his last year.

 

[Biggems]

why dont they make these guys run the 40 suited up? I mean they are not going to be in shorts and a tshirt during the game. Put them in a jersey, with pads, cleats and a helmet. If they can still run a 4.3, then we know they are game fast....

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

why dont they make these guys run the 40 suited up? I mean they are not going to be in shorts and a tshirt during the game. Put them in a jersey, with pads, cleats and a helmet. If they can still run a 4.3, then we know they are game fast....

Football is not a straight line game, especially not in pads. Though I think some imortant variables could be determined with such a drill.

Ogletree IMhumbleO has all he quick twicht skills to be a legit NFL WR, he and Manuel Johnson will be pushing for time on this roster sooner than later.

 

[Biggems]

Football is not a straight line game, especially not in pads. Though I think some imortant variables could be determined with such a drill.

Ogletree IMhumbleO has all he quick twicht skills to be a legit NFL WR, he and Manuel Johnson will be pushing for time on this roster sooner than later.

well run all the drills dressed out...it would give a better account of how they will play when it matters.

 

[jchocolate82]

wrong. 40 is straight line speed. 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone are more indicative of quickness and lateral agility.

Read the whole thread man. I explained my explanation of my opinions of the 40 that is used to evaluate speed. Is it straight line speed...obviously, is it the main thing we have to measure speed in the NFL as of now...yes, is it a true indicative of true speed...no, which I explained in one of my post. Go read that than come back and talk to me

 

[Wimbo]

Plus he had a major knee injury, wasn't extremely productive and came out after his junior season.

He was worthy of being drafted, and he probably should have been drafted, but it's easy to see why he slipped through.

Not to mention he played in an offense that thought "pass" was something you did in class so that you were eligible to help your team get more yardage on the run plays.

 

[Eskimo]

I am hoping that the guy develops as a 2nd or 3rd WR. If he exceeds those expectations then that is great.

With his quickness, size and speed hopefully he could become a good possession receiver to compliment Austin next year. We have to start getting him some experience now which means RW11 should be getting familiar with the pine.

 

[Eskimo]

why dont they make these guys run the 40 suited up? I mean they are not going to be in shorts and a tshirt during the game. Put them in a jersey, with pads, cleats and a helmet. If they can still run a 4.3, then we know they are game fast....

The issue is not the pads and equipment that are making all the difference. When you run in football, you are not running like an all-out sprint because you'd get killed - you have to run with your body under control. Some people can run nearly as fast this way as when they sprint and some people really slow down alot - remember that Cowboys WR Bernard Ford who could allegedly run a 4.3 40 being chased down by that Eagles LB.:laugh1:

 

[T-RO]

Pretty funny if by the end of the year you have undrafted Tony Romo throwing to two starting receivers that are also undrafted.

 

[silverbear]

You're both right but my point is just because someone runs a good 40 time its not the all be all if someone is fast or has another gear. The forty is a indicator of quickness because most humans reach top speed around 60m so at close to have the 60m distance the forty is in no way the ultimate speed test cause you havent even reached full speed to decide that.

If you're right in that evaluation, then "top gear" is utterly irrelevant on a football field...

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

There appears to be a pretty high correlation between Combine performance and NFL performance.

Not exactly a surprising concept. Better athlete usually means better football player.

Who cares? The only thing I care about is if he produces like he appeared to be able to in the preseason. I couldn't care less about why he wasn't drafted, what his 40 time is et cetera. I'm just glad we ended up with him and now it's looking like we may have one of the best groups of WRs in the league, some being UDFAs.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Can you imagine Miles Austin And Kevin Olgetree? WOW!

Roy Williams needs to really step it up.