Ok Football Gurus, Darren Woodson said something interesting!

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* I still think Roy is one of the best S in the league. He has problems turning his hips and breaking to the ball. Great S like Ed Reed have been doing that all of their lives so he will have to get used to it. When the ball is in front of Roy, he is the best safety in the league. He's a game changer and has 7 turnovers this year.
* I think it can be learned. Alot has to do with your athletic ability. Jimmy forced me to cover at the CB my rookie year so I learned how to do it. It made me a better cover safety. Mike Zimmer and the defensive staff need to put him in cover situations like that during practice.
* I don't ever see Roy moving to LB. That's a different beast. You don't see many safeties doing that.


So, do you guys think that the defensive back coaches need to do that, or already doing that with roy to teach him. I rememmber that when Darren Woodson came here, he was a linebacker, he had to learn safety, granted it took him 2 years before he took off.
 

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I think Woodson should just come back for the playoffs.
 

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cowboyjoe;1230045 said:
* I still think Roy is one of the best S in the league. He has problems turning his hips and breaking to the ball. Great S like Ed Reed have been doing that all of their lives so he will have to get used to it. When the ball is in front of Roy, he is the best safety in the league. He's a game changer and has 7 turnovers this year.
* I think it can be learned. Alot has to do with your athletic ability. Jimmy forced me to cover at the CB my rookie year so I learned how to do it. It made me a better cover safety. Mike Zimmer and the defensive staff need to put him in cover situations like that during practice.
* I don't ever see Roy moving to LB. That's a different beast. You don't see many safeties doing that.


So, do you guys think that the defensive back coaches need to do that, or already doing that with roy to teach him. I rememmber that when Darren Woodson came here, he was a linebacker, he had to learn safety, granted it took him 2 years before he took off.

If anyone recalls at the end of his career, he had pretty much lost the ability to cover slot receivers and we continued to split him out there anyways. I have next to no confidence our staff has any insight into how to correct our coverage problems. I won't blame them exclusively and I strongly disagree that if they suddenly start doing this that we suddenly get better play.

If they haven't thought of something like this, then they might be as inept as many fans contend they are.
 

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That TD that Jones scored
Wow
You would expect Roy Williams to just light him up and kill him
What more could you want?
A WR standing still and extending for the ball while Roy is going full sprint in his direction.....and what does he do....go for the ball

Roy needs to go back to HIS basics
Go for the pick when it's a free ball
If there is any question about it though give those Hulk hits that you are capable of and send a message
 

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cowboyjoe;1230045 said:
* I think it can be learned. Alot has to do with your athletic ability. Jimmy forced me to cover at the CB my rookie year so I learned how to do it. It made me a better cover safety. Mike Zimmer and the defensive staff need to put him in cover situations like that during practice.
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Until thunderthigs can drop some weight he'll be able to rotate his hips only as good as well...him
 

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We have one of the better defenses in the NFL. We get lit up one game, which happens even to very good teams, and everyone starts up with the we can't cover, move the Pro Bowl players to another position, we have stupid coaches, fire Zimmer, fire Parcells, yada yada and my best Charlie Brown grown up talk-insert here-.

You guys kill me.
 

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jobberone;1230132 said:
We have one of the better defenses in the NFL. We get lit up one game, which happens even to very good teams, and everyone starts up with the we can't cover, move the Pro Bowl players to another position, we have stupid coaches, fire Zimmer, fire Parcells, yada yada and my best Charlie Brown grown up talk-insert here-.

You guys kill me.
I disagree.....do we force turnovers...do we get sacks....does the oppositions QB rating stink....and I don't want to hear about are ranking...which can be inflated if you play enough bad teams....how have we looked against Jacksonvile, the Giants, Philly, the Saints....that is a real indicator of what kind of defense we have
 
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Two things with Roy Williams:

  1. Lose a few lbs Roy!
  2. As the great Darren Woodson suggest practice covering the slot more and get used to turning your hips!
 

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Give me Ken Norton, even with a broken Bicep. that dude was a manster.
 

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bbailey423;1230190 said:
I disagree.....do we force turnovers...do we get sacks....does the oppositions QB rating stink....and I don't want to hear about are ranking...which can be inflated if you play enough bad teams....how have we looked against Jacksonvile, the Giants, Philly, the Saints....that is a real indicator of what kind of defense we have

actually if i remember correctly, last week against the giants, the announcers said we have forced at least one TO every game until the saints game........
 

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jobberone;1230132 said:
We have one of the better defenses in the NFL. We get lit up one game, which happens even to very good teams, and everyone starts up with the we can't cover, move the Pro Bowl players to another position, we have stupid coaches, fire Zimmer, fire Parcells, yada yada and my best Charlie Brown grown up talk-insert here-.

You guys kill me.


That is simply untrue. I have never like the defensive philosophy that Parcells has instituted. He likes to play man up, play the run first, gap control, etc... It is a very conservative approach that works sometimes and doesn't others. Even against the giants, the QB never got pressured. I do agree that every defense will get burned once in awhile, but Dallas gets burned on big plays because of a lack of pressure. I would prefer an agressive defensive scheme like San Diego's or even Pittsburgh's.
 

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bbailey423;1230190 said:
I disagree.....do we force turnovers.

We're No. 6 in the league in takeaways.

does the oppositions QB rating stink.

Pretty much. We're 10th in the NFL in opposing passer rating, at 77.8.

how have we looked against Jacksonvile, the Giants, Philly, the Saints....that is a real indicator of what kind of defense we have

Funny how you left out Indianapolis, the best team we've faced.
 

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Future 585;1230117 said:
Until thunderthigs can drop some weight he'll be able to rotate his hips only as good as well...him
:lmao: :lmao2: that is so true
 

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I think Free Safety should become a priority in the offseason. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting someone like Laron Landry, Reggie Nelson, or Michael Griffin in the first round. With 3 premier free safeties coming out(hopefully) this year, then we are bound to get one of them. I know some people have been clamoring that safety isn't an impact position to take in the first round, but after the Saints game I think it is justifiable.
 

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AdamJT13;1230372 said:
We're No. 6 in the league in takeaways.

Not to mention the good fortune of facing three rookie QBs, resulting in six interceptions. Have fun whistling past the graveyard.
 

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Org1;1230093 said:
That TD that Jones scored
Wow
You would expect Roy Williams to just light him up and kill him
What more could you want?
A WR standing still and extending for the ball while Roy is going full sprint in his direction.....and what does he do....go for the ball

Roy needs to go back to HIS basics
Go for the pick when it's a free ball
If there is any question about it though give those Hulk hits that you are capable of and send a message

IMO, you are right on point. He could have blasted that guy.
 

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dasander;1230383 said:
I think Free Safety should become a priority in the offseason. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting someone like Laron Landry, Reggie Nelson, or Michael Griffin in the first round. With 3 premier free safeties coming out(hopefully) this year, then we are bound to get one of them. I know some people have been clamoring that safety isn't an impact position to take in the first round, but after the Saints game I think it is justifiable.

I doubt all 3 of those guys would go in the 1st rd. they may have a chance to get 1 in the 2nd.
 

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Org1;1230093 said:
That TD that Jones scored
Wow
You would expect Roy Williams to just light him up and kill him
What more could you want?
A WR standing still and extending for the ball while Roy is going full sprint in his direction.....and what does he do....go for the ball

Roy needs to go back to HIS basics
Go for the pick when it's a free ball
If there is any question about it though give those Hulk hits that you are capable of and send a message

Was that what he was doing? Going for the ball? Bad angles. Hes been doing it all year. Wheather its for a tackle. pick or a break up, he just takes horrible angles.
 

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HighTechDave;1230328 said:
Give me Ken Norton, even with a broken Bicep. that dude was a manster.

No, that would be the one and only......

RANDY WHITE :star:
 
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