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We're 4-2 after 6 weeks.

Last season, after 12 weeks, the Giants were 7-4, and they had just come off a week 11 win over the lowly Lions 16-10, along with a week 12 beatdown at the hands of the lowly Vikings at the Meadowlands 41-17.

12 weeks of inconsistancy, mixed with futility, along with two losses to the Cowboys...Eli was considered a joke and choke artist, along with a Giants team that was barely in the playoff hunt and struggling.

Yet somehow they managed to pull it together despite losing their starting TE, still only finished 10-6, which included another home loss to the Skins 22-10 in week 15.

They never got on a roll until the playoff victory over the Cowboys, but they did.

We have a talented team that has better talent and depth than last season's 13-3 team. Right now, we struggle in one or more phases of the game every week, and some of our stars are in a current rut. Losing our punter for the season today is a huge and inexcusable loss, but our players still seem to play like they think their talent and preseason press clippings will get them to the promised land. WE still depend on big plays and seem to have no stomach or discipline necessary to grind out sustained drives.

Yep, we're struggling mightily, but I think those who claim Romo suddenly stinks or TO is suddenly over-the-hill or our high powered, high scoring offense suddenly can't operate because we don't have a top #2 receiver, and worst, that our coaches stink and should all be fired....well, I think those fans are a little too simplistic...the players block, catch, run routes, pass, tackle, and make decisions during the game...lately, they haven't been doing a very good job of that. Everyone needs to step up, set their jaws, and prepare to grind their way to a winning streak that helps them find their rhythm, and it's not likely to happen over night.

Still, we have fairly good talent, and today I finally saw the defense get after someone and play with agressiveness and spirit. Sadly, the offense and special teams left their games at home.

It's a long season, and our team won't make the playoffs or win any playoff games just because the preseason pundits said we're the best team on paper. Our players have to find a way to win their individual battles and avoid being the guy that kills a play on either side of the ball.

It's frustrating as hell, guys, but we're not in our third consecutive 5-11 season, and we DO have the hope of putting it together before the playoffs, which is better than going week to week just hoping we can win another game and maybe get to .500 for the season.

No one will ever accuse me of wearing rose-colored glasses. I usually get called a fair-weather negative fan because I recognize that we're not as good as our reputation and we're over-rated right now, but even I can see that we have the talent and the coaches to win against anyone in the NFL when we put it all together on a good day.

It's way too early to throw in the towel, no matter how frustrated we are. Remember how the Giants fans must have felt when they squeaked into the playoffs and were rewarded with a trip to TExas stadium to face a team that dominated them in the regular season. We have time...the players and coaches have to find their way to a streak.
 

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Hope is some thing you have after your given a reason to believe.
 

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wayne motley;2331913 said:
We're 4-2 after 6 weeks.

Last season, after 12 weeks, the Giants were 7-4, and they had just come off a week 11 win over the lowly Lions 16-10, along with a week 12 beatdown at the hands of the lowly Vikings at the Meadowlands 41-17.

12 weeks of inconsistancy, mixed with futility, along with two losses to the Cowboys...Eli was considered a joke and choke artist, along with a Giants team that was barely in the playoff hunt and struggling.

Yet somehow they managed to pull it together despite losing their starting TE, still only finished 10-6, which included another home loss to the Skins 22-10 in week 15.

They never got on a roll until the playoff victory over the Cowboys, but they did.

We have a talented team that has better talent and depth than last season's 13-3 team. Right now, we struggle in one or more phases of the game every week, and some of our stars are in a current rut. Losing our punter for the season today is a huge and inexcusable loss, but our players still seem to play like they think their talent and preseason press clippings will get them to the promised land. WE still depend on big plays and seem to have no stomach or discipline necessary to grind out sustained drives.

Yep, we're struggling mightily, but I think those who claim Romo suddenly stinks or TO is suddenly over-the-hill or our high powered, high scoring offense suddenly can't operate because we don't have a top #2 receiver, and worst, that our coaches stink and should all be fired....well, I think those fans are a little too simplistic...the players block, catch, run routes, pass, tackle, and make decisions during the game...lately, they haven't been doing a very good job of that. Everyone needs to step up, set their jaws, and prepare to grind their way to a winning streak that helps them find their rhythm, and it's not likely to happen over night.

Still, we have fairly good talent, and today I finally saw the defense get after someone and play with agressiveness and spirit. Sadly, the offense and special teams left their games at home.

It's a long season, and our team won't make the playoffs or win any playoff games just because the preseason pundits said we're the best team on paper. Our players have to find a way to win their individual battles and avoid being the guy that kills a play on either side of the ball.

It's frustrating as hell, guys, but we're not in our third consecutive 5-11 season, and we DO have the hope of putting it together before the playoffs, which is better than going week to week just hoping we can win another game and maybe get to .500 for the season.

No one will ever accuse me of wearing rose-colored glasses. I usually get called a fair-weather negative fan because I recognize that we're not as good as our reputation and we're over-rated right now, but even I can see that we have the talent and the coaches to win against anyone in the NFL.

It's way too early to throw in the towel, no matter how frustrated we are. Remember how the Giants fans must have felt when they squeaked into the playoffs and were rewarded with a trip to TExas stadium to face a team that dominated them in the regular season. We have time...the players and coaches have to find their way to a streak.

They don't have a fat cheerleader for a coach.
 

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I really wish people would stop making comparisons between this years Cowboys team and last years fluke *** Giants team.
 

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so McBriar is actually done for the season? I thought it was just a foot bruise?
 

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xWraithx;2331936 said:
so McBriar is actually done for the season? I thought it was just a foot bruise?

I hope you're correct...last I read it was his achilles.
 

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I understand any fan's frustration at this point, but I'm guessing that if you used to play sports you weren't such a defeatest back in the day.

Hopefully players have too much character and pride to give up a little more than a third of the way through the season with a 4-2 record and quit on themselves and their coaches.

Players have to believe in their talent and remember their past successes and hope to work their way to success, even when fans blame everyone and believe the season is now over and it's time to rebuild with new coaches.

Sad...there are plenty of problems and plenty of things to work out, but this team can win....It's funny how the tone has totally changed from what it was after the first two weeks.
 

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Wayne - good post but I disagree on when the run started for the Giants though. I believe it started with the loss to the Pats at the end of regular season.


JustSayNotoTO;2331934 said:
I really wish people would stop making comparisons between this years Cowboys team and last years fluke *** Giants team.

I dont believe he is comparing the two teams... I think he is talking about a timeline as to when we can put it together in comparison(when it counts, at the end). Not team comparison.
 

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wayne motley;2331943 said:
I hope you're correct...last I read it was his achilles.

Mickey Spagnola said it was a foot contusion and that the x-rays were negative

Wade Phillips was also on the injury report though with a torn colon
 

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1970, Super Bowl V season...4-2 after 6 games.

1971, Super Bowl VI season...4-2 after 6 games.

1975, Super Bowl X season...5-1 after 6 games.

1977, Super Bowl XII season...6-0 after 6 games.

1978, Super Bowl XIII season...4-2 after 6 games.

1992, Super Bowl XXVII season...5-1 after 6 games.

1993, Super Bowl XXVIII season...4-2 after 6 games.

1995, Super Bowl XXX season...5-1 after 6 games.



Just saying.
 

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Hostile;2332057 said:
1970, Super Bowl V season...4-2 after 6 games.

1971, Super Bowl VI season...4-2 after 6 games.

1975, Super Bowl X season...5-1 after 6 games.

1977, Super Bowl XII season...6-0 after 6 games.

1978, Super Bowl XIII season...4-2 after 6 games.

1992, Super Bowl XXVII season...5-1 after 6 games.

1993, Super Bowl XXVIII season...4-2 after 6 games.

1995, Super Bowl XXX season...5-1 after 6 games.



Just saying.
How DARE you compare this team to those championship squads.

How dare you.



Of course, imagine if there was the internet in 1971....
 

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windward;2332073 said:
How DARE you compare this team to those championship squads.

How dare you.



Of course, imagine if there was the internet in 1971....

I don't know, you ever seen those old porn flicks. Did they have razors in 1971 for heavens sake!

Oh, you mean to discuss the Cowboys!
 

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jimmy40;2332114 said:
We'd all be *****ing about the tipped pass.


Oh you mean like the one today on 3rd and forever where Hightower was able to pick up the first down? lol
 

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Hostile;2332119 said:
I still do. I believe Mel Renfro.
I knew you'd be all over that. :) and I figured you might be the only one.
 

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Hostile;2332057 said:
1970, Super Bowl V season...4-2 after 6 games.

1971, Super Bowl VI season...4-2 after 6 games.

1975, Super Bowl X season...5-1 after 6 games.

1977, Super Bowl XII season...6-0 after 6 games.

1978, Super Bowl XIII season...4-2 after 6 games.

1992, Super Bowl XXVII season...5-1 after 6 games.

1993, Super Bowl XXVIII season...4-2 after 6 games.

1995, Super Bowl XXX season...5-1 after 6 games.



Just saying.
Stop! you can't compare. This team lacks a good head coach, fundamentals and leadership.

10-6 is pretty good bet, wildcard loss.
 

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jimmy40;2332127 said:
I knew you'd be all over that. :) and I figured you might be the only one.
I respect John Mackey, but I'm still mad at him.
 
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