On the Micheal Irvin show Emmitt and Nate chime in

[Goldenrichards83]

Nate said that Wade indecision to award Scandrick or Jenkins hinders there development.
Says Scandrick or Jenkins needs to know where they mindset fits in the concept of this defense. Says they go out on Wednesday and they have on no pads. There not learning to have perfect practices so they don't play perfect games.
There's no playmakers on defense other than Ware.

But I really like what Emmitt said. He said basically they need better practice habits. He said Jimmy never gave them a break. They went full throttle on Wednesday and Thursday all pads and Friday they may just have shoulder pads on. Said they should go full tilt especially with a young secondary because they need to know what to do in a pressure situation. Lastnight there were exposed by not practicing full throttle in pressure situations. His says as a team they need to work, from the vets to the rooks and the confidence will permeate through the lockerroom.

Irvin says when they have bad games like this Wade should dress everyone in full pads and go full throttle as a repurcushion for not playing well. He said he guarantees they will not want that.

One final thing Emmit says that makes alot of sense he says as former players and even fans we saw what a complete team was and the level of excellence they played with but what he tries to impart on this young team right now especially to the leaders on the team because he wants them to experience what he and Mike and all the greats experienced. He said what you will appreciatte more than anything is going through the process to get yourself to a level of greatness. Because then you will have an understanding of how hard it really was to get there. Emmit also says he has never seen a practice but he got his info from Nate who basically cosigned everything he said.



Forgive the spelling I was typing the recap pretty fast.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Great stuff. This team doesn't know what a hard practice is like. They have been embarassed so many times and never respond. I have lost all faith in Wades ability to motivate this team.

 

[theebs]

IF you listen to newton talk on espn radio here, it only takes about 30 seconds to realize he absolutely cant stand wade phillips and thinks he is directly to blame for everything.

he basically insults phillips daily for the practices run by this team and the excuses that are always being made.

 

[Apollo Creed]

IF you listen to newton talk on espn radio here, it only takes about 30 seconds to realize he absolutely cant stand wade phillips and thinks he is directly to blame for everything.

he basically insults phillips daily for the practices run by this team and the excuses that are always being made.

How do guys like Sham feel about Wade's walk throughs?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Good grief. There isn't a single team out there that practices like Jimmy did. Not one. So I guess whoever wins the Super Bowl is doing it wrong, too.

I get so tired of these guys from the glory days sometimes. Yes, if only we did Oklahoma drills all week long, we too would suddenly gain three or four Hall of Famers on our team!

 

[cowboyjoe]

Nate said that Wade indecision to award Scandrick or Jenkins hinders there development.
Says Scandrick or Jenkins needs to know where they mindset fits in the concept of this defense. Says they go out on Wednesday and they have on no pads. There not learning to have perfect practices so they don't play perfect games.
There's no playmakers on defense other than Ware..

Now I have harped and harped on this since the start of the season, but a few elders on this site, said i was giving negativity and quit being so negative all the time. Now what do they say? I even heard one of them last night on DC Fanatics show and he was sounding just like I did at the start of the season.

But I really like what Emmitt said. He said basically they need better practice habits. He said Jimmy never gave them a break. They went full throttle on Wednesday and Thursday all pads and Friday they may just have shoulder pads on. Said they should go full tilt especially with a young secondary because they need to know what to do in a pressure situation. Lastnight there were exposed by not practicing full throttle in pressure situations. His says as a team they need to work, from the vets to the rooks and the confidence will permeate through the lockerroom..

Exactly, this is what I have been preaching all the time, more practices in pads and hitting. Sure, now and then players are hurt in practice, but thats the name of the game. You dont have to put them in pads all the time, just alittle, players like Scandrick must be allowed to practice tackling in pads, when u dont practice in pads, you get bad habits in the game. Again, these players are not professionals wade, you have to work them. Are you reading this Wade? Work them in pads, have them hit and tackle.

Irvin says when they have bad games like this Wade should dress everyone in full pads and go full throttle as a repurcushion for not playing well. He said he guarantees they will not want that..

Exactly, what did Irvin tell his players at his show where jesse holley was practicing. Irvin said you will be in a more physical practice then the light paddy cake stuff wade does in training camp. Again, read my lips people, there has to be a reason why wade's teams have failed and not reached the playoffs in each of his head coaching tenure. Wade finally listened to some of us and fans and albert breer by fixing the special teams. You can tell now that special teams are pretty decent. Now wade needs to listen again, work those players. Just look at the way wade ran the multiple blitz defenses in training camp. Even wade admitted that he should have worked them more in games. Because as you all know, blitz packages in first half in tampa bay were awful. So, wade had to work on the run defense with going back to the basics. Now, wade has to work on the pass defense. WHY IN THE WORLD ARE WE HAVING TO WORK ON BLITZ PACKAGES WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN PRESEASON AND TRAINING CAMP? WAKE UP WADE!

One final thing Emmit says that makes alot of sense he says as former players and even fans we saw what a complete team was and the level of excellence they played with but what he tries to impart on this young team right now especially to the leaders on the team because he wants them to experience what he and Mike and all the greats experienced. He said what you will appreciatte more than anything is going through the process to get yourself to a level of greatness. Because then you will have an understanding of how hard it really was to get there. Emmit also says he has never seen a practice but he got his info from Nate who basically cosigned everything he said.



Forgive the spelling I was typing the recap pretty fast.

Exactly!

 

[Mash]

Its all Wade's fault...

There so much talent on this team that if practiced correctly this team would go undefeated

oh wait....this team cant be talented......Jerry Jones is a pathetic GM...

We always go back to how jimmy johnson ran practice....but there are alot of other SB coaches that dont run their players into the ground and have won SB's

If it was just coaching then Jimmy Genius would of won a SB and gone undefeated in Miami......but how did that work out?

Can the coaches coach better? Sure.....is it the lack of physical practice that is the problem with this team? I highly doubt it.....Players even commented that Wade's training camp was one of the hardest in years....even harder then Big Bill's time here.

So....First its.....this team has chemisty problems..........supposely fixed with the substraction of these so called locker room cancers...

Then they had to make the team more Romo friendly..........but bad decisions still occurr

Fans cried out for more man coverage.....how did that work out with the Giants.....

Im not saying that Wade's cant be a better coach.....maybe something has to be changed. But Wade's record with the Cowboys to begin the year is pretty damn good. They always seem to come of the gate playing well.

Do we really think running hard on Tues and Weds with pads is going to stop players from making stupid mistakes? Sorry....it didnt stop players when Bill was here.....

Players have to be more accountable....and maybe Wade has to make them more accountable.

But then again....Wade's supposed easy approach to a game....his lack of a task master personality...etc ........ you would of thought that those mighty Giants with +4 turnovers would of just kicked the crap out of the Cowboys.....but in reality ....if Romo didnt make those bone headed mistakes...and our DB's actually tried to cover better.....the Cowboys could of won this game easily.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Good grief. There isn't a single team out there that practices like Jimmy did. Not one. So I guess whoever wins the Super Bowl is doing it wrong, too.

I get so tired of these guys from the glory days sometimes. Yes, if only we did Oklahoma drills all week long, we too would suddenly gain three or four Hall of Famers on our team!

I think its about how the coach responds to an embarrassing loss more than anything. You don't slap your team on the wrist after showing no indication that they've progressed as a football team from last December's Philly fallout.

I'm not a huge believer in wearing your team out, especially after a 'tough' camp. But every time this team should have a chip on its shoulder, they never seem to be motivated or respond to the challenge. I put that on the coach.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

So these guys never mentioned Romo?

Actually, last year Arizona went up to New England or Philly and laid an egg, which infuriated their HC. When they went to practice for their next game, they were shocked that Weisenhut made the dress in full pads and have a very physical practice. That's what started their run to the superbowl.

Perhaps they shouldn't practice in pads everyweek, but when they lay an egg, they should know that a hard week of physcial practice is awaiting them. Maybe they will work harder and play better knowing that if they don't a very physical practice is awaiting them.

 

[kramskoi]

Nate said that Wade indecision to award Scandrick or Jenkins hinders there development.
Says Scandrick or Jenkins needs to know where they mindset fits in the concept of this defense. Says they go out on Wednesday and they have on no pads. There not learning to have perfect practices so they don't play perfect games.
There's no playmakers on defense other than Ware.

But I really like what Emmitt said. He said basically they need better practice habits. He said Jimmy never gave them a break. They went full throttle on Wednesday and Thursday all pads and Friday they may just have shoulder pads on. Said they should go full tilt especially with a young secondary because they need to know what to do in a pressure situation. Lastnight there were exposed by not practicing full throttle in pressure situations. His says as a team they need to work, from the vets to the rooks and the confidence will permeate through the lockerroom.

Irvin says when they have bad games like this Wade should dress everyone in full pads and go full throttle as a repurcushion for not playing well. He said he guarantees they will not want that.

One final thing Emmit says that makes alot of sense he says as former players and even fans we saw what a complete team was and the level of excellence they played with but what he tries to impart on this young team right now especially to the leaders on the team because he wants them to experience what he and Mike and all the greats experienced. He said what you will appreciatte more than anything is going through the process to get yourself to a level of greatness. Because then you will have an understanding of how hard it really was to get there. Emmit also says he has never seen a practice but he got his info from Nate who basically cosigned everything he said.



Forgive the spelling I was typing the recap pretty fast.

...and all this goes back to one person...Wade Phillips...he's not going to get the most out of these players because he's not a disciplinarian at heart...a leopard does'nt change its spots...this team has no character on defense right now and that is an indictment of the head coach...

 

[theebs]

How do guys like Sham feel about Wade's walk throughs?

Brad Sham isnt the kind of guy to voice his opinions on how things are run for the most part. He just does his job of calling the game and making sure he is prepared.

I have never heard him get into any of the negative talking points about wade or parcells. He may mention something here or there but he usually only will say something if it pertains to the game in the moment.

 

[newlander]

This is all fodder and BS IMHO. After we win 7-9 games this season, who will Red hire for his def. coordinator? It's really a more relevant question than beating the dead horse topic of "Wade Sucks" ............etc....we all KNOW that............................

 

[zrinkill]

who will Red hire for his def. coordinator?

Who is out there?

 

[Goldenrichards83]

So these guys never mentioned Romo?

I actually caught the podcasts so they probably talked about Romo but I missed it. Emmitt did say this about Romo. In the past after Romo would make mistakes he would hold his head down. But Sunday night(although the camera didn't catch it) he held his head up. He said thats what he needs to do. He liked that alot.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Who is out there?

The other Ryan twin.

 

[Hoofbite]

Basically, Wade's way sucks.

Sweet.

Time to move on. Get him out.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think its about how the coach responds to an embarrassing loss more than anything. You don't slap your team on the wrist after showing no indication that they've progressed as a football team from last December's Philly fallout.

I'm not a huge believer in wearing your team out, especially after a 'tough' camp. But every time this team should have a chip on its shoulder, they never seem to be motivated or respond to the challenge. I put that on the coach.

We haven't even had a practice yet this week. How do we know how we're going to respond?

And if you remember last week, they went to an indoor facility one day when rain was forecast because he wanted them to work on the run games and be physical without everyone slipping around.

It's not even about Wade. I'm talking about these guys constantly chirping about the good old days and how they did everything right and these guys don't anymore. You could bring Holmgren or Shanahan in here, and they aren't going to beat the team up like they Jimmy did either. It just wears me out.

 

[Alexander]

Good grief. There isn't a single team out there that practices like Jimmy did. Not one. So I guess whoever wins the Super Bowl is doing it wrong, too.

No, but those who win the Super Bowl end up tailoring what they do to their team and obviously they respond.

Belichick didn't kill his players, but he would use pads when he felt the team needed it. He'd reward them with padless practices like a gimmick. It worked. But every team is different.

To me, Phillips has "his way", in other words, what he saw other coaches do with their teams and he adopts it and appears inflexible. He's often fond of bringing up how Marv Levy ran practices and it "worked". Yes, it worked. For that Bills team. For that collection of personalities.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the particular personalities on the team simply might not be cut out for the soft approach, especially if they know it will remain that way? We all saw how the team acted like it was a party when Parcells left. It worked for a while for novelty, but we are seeing the same sloppiness and inconsistency again. So what do you do? Keep on doing it hoping, each week, that they'll respond?

I just think Phillips is not much of a deep thinker in terms of dealing with individuals. That's what made Jimmy Johnson great. Not the hard practices. He just knew what his team needed, even if they couldn't appreciate it. That's what these veterans know now after the fact. But I am positive they hated his guts back then for the brutal practices. Now they know he did the right thing for that team at that time, that's why they keep talking about it.

He can scheme and spot talent like nobody's business, but in terms of motivating and trying to figure out the right buttons to push, he doesn't even look like he tries. And honestly, he's more used to being a coordinator, who isn't responsible for deciding how practices are run.

He "treats them like men". Well, when you have immature children, it is hard to expect them to respond like men.

This is a difficult team to get to. Even Parcells couldn't do it. But if I were Phillips and my coaching life depended on it, I'd switch it up because what he's doing isn't working. That's why I regret Reeves didn't stick around. I think he would have some different suggestions right now.

 

[CATCH17]

I think its about how the coach responds to an embarrassing loss more than anything. You don't slap your team on the wrist after showing no indication that they've progressed as a football team from last December's Philly fallout.

I'm not a huge believer in wearing your team out, especially after a 'tough' camp. But every time this team should have a chip on its shoulder, they never seem to be motivated or respond to the challenge. I put that on the coach.

That wasn't the case this week though. Dallas came out playing intense.

They just had to many turnovers and bad bounces.

Hopefully we'll get it squared away but I don't have faith that we will because it is a reoccuring thing.

Wade had these guys ready though and put them in a position for success. The players epically failed.

 

[FCBarca]

It's easy to get on the dump Wade bandwagon and his camp cupcake...Very easy but perhaps even easier is to just believe what you are seeing out there...In successive seasons under Wade, the team gets softer and softer...It's probably not all coaching but it certainly can't all be personnel either.