One thing just became crystal clear to me regarding Jerry...

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There's too much going on right now with all of these crazy high profile coaching possibilities coming to fruition. When has Jerry ever sat back and not stolen the spotlight? This is taylor made for him... right up his alley. The more and more I see these big names fly around the more and more I believe Wade will not be the HC of the Dallas Cowboys next year.

Think about the way Jerry has always reacted in times like this.

Is anyone here really convinced that Jerry is at home right now watching all of this drama unfold and simply sitting on his hands? It's not his MO.
 

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Well, Jerry might love big names, but that didn't help us in the years of Campo and Gailey. Perhaps no big names were available back then, plus Jerry, I think, had a different, less workable-with reputation in league circles back then.

I so hope you're right. We know Jerry loves the spotlight, and snagging Shanahan does something to make us relevant again during the postseason in which we're sitting out. You know he loves that. Of course, as I said in a different thread, the brilliance behind this isn't the marketability but that it's actually a good football move.
 

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Jerry is at home sleeping off a Three Forks tenderloin and dreaming of the imaginary time he won the big game all by himself.

Jerry has, every time given the opportunity to take the offramp, to fold his hand, he has chosen to double down - not only restate, but re-emphasize that he's got the team in place. Could he come to his senses? Well, sure, I suppose, but then again Osama Bin Laden might crawl out of his cave and give us an "Oy vey! I think I'm Jewish!" Just not likely.
 

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Bleu Star;2543479 said:
There's too much going on right now with all of these crazy high profile coaching possibilities coming to fruition. When has Jerry ever sat back and not stolen the spotlight? This is taylor made for him... right up his alley. The more and more I see these big names fly around the more and more I believe Wade will not be the HC of the Dallas Cowboys next year.

Think about the way Jerry has always reacted in times like this.

Is anyone here really convinced that Jerry is at home right now watching all of this drama unfold and simply sitting on his hands? It's not his MO.

I agree. I dont see Jerry not making a move. There are too many choices right now and he has no reason to think things will be different next year. But he better do it fast before its too late.
 

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Bleu Star;2543479 said:
There's too much going on right now with all of these crazy high profile coaching possibilities coming to fruition. When has Jerry ever sat back and not stolen the spotlight? This is taylor made for him... right up his alley. The more and more I see these big names fly around the more and more I believe Wade will not be the HC of the Dallas Cowboys next year.

Think about the way Jerry has always reacted in times like this.

Is anyone here really convinced that Jerry is at home right now watching all of this drama unfold and simply sitting on his hands? It's not his MO.


I agree! I think Mike Shanahan getting fired today spiced things up a bit. I know it's a long shot but he would fit in beautifully here in Dallas. My dream would be that he comes to Dallas to be the Head Coach and then Wade is demoted to Defensive Coordinator... How good has the defense been since Wade took over? With that said, fire Brian Stewart.

Ryan
 

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RyanBounce04;2543503 said:
I agree! I think Mike Shanahan getting fired today spiced things up a bit. I know it's a long shot but he would fit in beautifully here in Dallas. My dream would be that he comes to Dallas to be the Head Coach and then Wade is demoted to Defensive Coordinator... How good has the defense been since Wade took over? With that said, fire Brian Stewart.

Ryan

No reason to keep Wade as D Coord, we are better off getting him outta here.
 

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dacop;2543527 said:
No reason to keep Wade as D Coord, we are better off getting him outta here.

Uh, yeah there is. This 3-4 was horrific before Wade took over this year. We stunk the last two games up, but prior to that, this D was looking GOOD.

To me, thats the sole reason Jerry wants to keep the "continuity". Continuity is code for "I have a ton of money invested in this D, and Wade is the only one who's been able to get something back on my investment.

I don't believe Shanahan is coming here. Not for a second, but if I'm wrong, and Jerry wants him, he has to figure out a way to keep Wade as D coordinator.

But I don't think it happens.
 

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dacop;2543527 said:
No reason to keep Wade as D Coord, we are better off getting him outta here.

Wade is a Defensive Coordinator, not a disease. With the exception of the game on Sunday, how well has the Defense played since he took over? It was awesome! There's the reason why we keep him. Brian Stewart wasn't getting the job done and will continue to "not" get the job done.

Ryan
 

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NO CHANCE! This is all about Garrett's future.

Step back and look at what's happened the past two years.

Jerry has gone all in with Jason Garrett. He loves him like a son and he is giving Garrett, (thus Wade keeps his job), one more year to try and turn it around and regain his stature so he can be the next HC.

Jerry has invested EVERYTHING on Garrett's future. It's been his business plan since Parcells left.

That's the simple reason he is not canning Wade. I don't like it one bit, but it's the obvious truth.
 

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Bleu Star;2543479 said:
There's too much going on right now with all of these crazy high profile coaching possibilities coming to fruition. When has Jerry ever sat back and not stolen the spotlight? This is taylor made for him... right up his alley. The more and more I see these big names fly around the more and more I believe Wade will not be the HC of the Dallas Cowboys next year.

Think about the way Jerry has always reacted in times like this.

Is anyone here really convinced that Jerry is at home right now watching all of this drama unfold and simply sitting on his hands? It's not his MO.

I will have to give Jerra props if he should bring Mike Shanahan to Dallas. He would be the best fit for the Cowboys, even better than Cowher. We would win some Super Bowls and Romo would put up some unreal numbers.
 

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Venger;2543494 said:
Jerry is at home sleeping off a Three Forks tenderloin and dreaming of the imaginary time he won the big game all by himself.

Jerry has, every time given the opportunity to take the offramp, to fold his hand, he has chosen to double down - not only restate, but re-emphasize that he's got the team in place. Could he come to his senses? Well, sure, I suppose, but then again Osama Bin Laden might crawl out of his cave and give us an "Oy vey! I think I'm Jewish!" Just not likely.

:laugh2:

:cry:
 

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Honestly have you guys followed Shanny's career the past 10 years?

The guy has had total control of a Broncos team that's been one of the worst and softest defensive teams in the league. They have changed D coordinators, taken on the entire Browns defensive line, and almost every other reject including Ekuban and they can't stop anyone. The Broncos have been terrible since Elway and TD left town. His personnel moves have been some of the worst in the league. I know he's a big name but the luster left that guy 10 years ago.
 

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CaptainAmerica;2543548 said:
NO CHANCE! This is all about Garrett's future.

Step back and look at what's happened the past two years.

Jerry has gone all in with Jason Garrett. He loves him like a son and he is giving Garrett, (thus Wade keeps his job), one more year to try and turn it around and regain his stature so he can be the next HC.

Jerry has invested EVERYTHING on Garrett's future. It's been his business plan since Parcells left.

That's the simple reason he is not canning Wade. I don't like it one bit, but it's the obvious truth.

In my heart, i think you are 100% correct.
 

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I have to agree with Capt America here. I watch alot of Broncos games because I have a ton of family up there. And I like Shanny's style of disciplinarian, but they guy was just not getting the job done in the last 10 years.
 

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CaptainAmerica;2543564 said:
Honestly have you guys followed Shanny's career the past 10 years?

The guy has had total control of a Broncos team that's been one of the worst and softest defensive teams in the league. They have changed D coordinators, taken on the entire Browns defensive line, and almost every other reject including Ekuban and they can't stop anyone. The Broncos have been terrible since Elway and TD left town. His personnel moves have been some of the worst in the league. I know he's a big name but the luster left that guy 10 years ago.

you're right to an extent... but the cowboys have a SIGNIFICANT LIMITATION when hiring coaches that they must placate Jerruh's lust for superstars and big playmakers.

jerry the GM would never have cowher and a triple-RB & 2TE attack.

mike could reel in this group of overpaid losers and get the offense/romo (in which we're heavily invested) going in the right direction.

we also have more talent than DEN across the board... and can switch to 4-3 with great ease so DC is not an issue.

unlike The walrus who is burnt out (and has done nothing since losing the SB) Mike will be motivated after being abruptly fired.

also when wade coaches in 2009 and fails what is the backup plan? jerry's plan is bumping Jason up to HC. To learn that on-the-fly as he's doing so pathetically at OC. That is a sickening idea to anyone sane.
 

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CowboyWay;2543573 said:
I have to agree with Capt America here. I watch alot of Broncos games because I have a ton of family up there. And I like Shanny's style of disciplinarian, but they guy was just not getting the job done in the last 10 years.

I think the justification, fair or not, is that Shanahan was never a good GM and that got in the way of his coaching the last decade -- but that he is a good coach. Of course, he'd never be GM here, so that aspect of it isn't an issue.

As for Captain America's point, it's hard to disagree. But, like you, I think it's a flawed strategy in a large sense and hope it not to be the case.

I don't know that I've ever seen an organization base an entire coaching staff around one assistant, with the idea of "We'll try to pepper him until he's ready with this cast of yahoos around him." There isn't on-the-job training in this league. If Garrett's ready to be the head coach, then it's time to name him it. If he's not but we're trying to bide our time, well, that's just not how this league works. We're sacrificing seasons for as long as we take that approach and "settle" for Wade as Garrett gets ready in the minors.
 

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chinch;2543576 said:
you're right to an extent... but the cowboys have a SIGNIFICANT LIMITATION when hiring coaches that they must placate Jerruh's lust for superstars and big playmakers.

jerry the GM would never have cowher and a triple-RB & 2TE attack.

mike could reel in this group of overpaid losers and get the offense/romo (in which we're heavily invested) going in the right direction.

we also have more talent than DEN across the board... and can switch to 4-3 with great ease so DC is not an issue.

unlike The walrus who is burnt out (and has done nothing since losing the SB) Mike will be motivated after being abruptly fired.

also when wade coaches in 2009 and fails what is the backup plan? jerry's plan is bumping Jason up to HC. To learn that on-the-fly as he's doing so pathetically at OC. That is a sickening idea to anyone sane.

Great points all.
 

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CaptainAmerica;2543548 said:
NO CHANCE! This is all about Garrett's future.

Step back and look at what's happened the past two years.

Jerry has gone all in with Jason Garrett. He loves him like a son and he is giving Garrett, (thus Wade keeps his job), one more year to try and turn it around and regain his stature so he can be the next HC.

Jerry has invested EVERYTHING on Garrett's future. It's been his business plan since Parcells left.

That's the simple reason he is not canning Wade. I don't like it one bit, but it's the obvious truth.

So the guy that learned how to call plays from TECMO BOWL is being groomed to take over as HC once Wade blows another season.

I think I am going to go vomit now..........that is all.

:puke:
 

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CaptainAmerica;2543548 said:
NO CHANCE! This is all about Garrett's future.

Step back and look at what's happened the past two years.

Jerry has gone all in with Jason Garrett. He loves him like a son and he is giving Garrett, (thus Wade keeps his job), one more year to try and turn it around and regain his stature so he can be the next HC.

Jerry has invested EVERYTHING on Garrett's future. It's been his business plan since Parcells left.

That's the simple reason he is not canning Wade. I don't like it one bit, but it's the obvious truth.

But the truth is, with so many head coaching vacancies, the probability is high Jason Garrett will not be here next year. There's way to much movement in the HC ranks and not enough candidates.

Once Jerry loses the golden read head boy, all bets are off. Even Wade's job as HC.

And Wade is so soft and amicable, I would bet he could talk him into staying here as DC.
 
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