Opinion: Chip Kelly era is over! merged

BotchedLobotomy · Sep 21, 2015

Once again, the Eagles trophy case is filled with pre-season championships and paper titles.

Alexander · Sep 21, 2015

wileedog said:
This.

In fairness, Kelly in his first two seasons took a 4 win team and won 20 games with them (and a lot of those wins with Buttfumble at QB). It's only when they gave him control over the groceries that the restaurant imploded.

Oh and I'll leave this here as Exhibit A:

Maxwell is looking like a modern Larry Brown at the moment.

The other side of these personnel moves that are backfiring is that they are not cheap.

TimHortons · Sep 21, 2015

TheSkaven said:
Even if he goes, his legacy will remain. He tied up all the team's salary cap in rejects and miscast players. He traded or cut all of the team's playmakers. His draft picks can't get on the field.

Frankly it reminds me of the start of the Campo years in Dallas.

The least people didn't bow at Campo's feet like the second coming. Everyone knew he was gonna be bad.

DOUBLE WING · Sep 21, 2015

Chip Kelly will be at USC or Texas this time next year. Mark my words.

Longboysfan · Sep 21, 2015

Idgit said:
What's the lifespan on the Demarco Murray era over there?

If they blow up the roster there at the end of the year they will be able to move on - Not a monster CAP hit on Murry after June 1.

YosemiteSam · Sep 21, 2015

I want Chip to be a fixture in Philly for the foreseeable future.

NickZepp · Sep 21, 2015

You can tell by his moves that he didn't know what he was doing. Trading away Foles and 2 draft picks(4th and a 6th) for Bradford and a 5th rounder? You can tell there was something wrong there right away.

CanadianCowboysFan · Sep 21, 2015

nake said:
I like what Chip Kelly has done with the Eagles. Hopefully he has a long-term deal.

I see what you did there

pansophy · Sep 21, 2015

joseephuss said:
When was that?

Didn't Chip say that during his press conference?

Tenkamenin · Sep 21, 2015

NickZepp said:
You can tell by his moves that he didn't know what he was doing. Trading away Foles and 2 draft picks(4th and a 6th) for Bradford and a 5th rounder? You can tell there was something wrong there right away.

Nick Foles played very well in Chip's system, I was quite surprised when Chipper traded him away. I guess he wanted more mobility because Foles is a statue in the pocket, I don't see how else he could justify trading Foles.

Tusan_Homichi · Sep 21, 2015

Tenkamenin said:
Nick Foles played very well in Chip's system, I was quite surprised when Chipper traded him away. I guess he wanted more mobility because Foles is a statue in the pocket, I don't see how else he could justify trading Foles.

Bradford is even less mobile.

Tenkamenin · Sep 21, 2015

Heisenberg said:
Bradford is even less mobile.

He certainly is playing like so, it appears Bradford has been away for so long that he's learning how to play the position again. However when he was with the Rams, he moved around great.

muck4doo · Sep 21, 2015

Alexander said:
Maxwell is looking like a modern Larry Brown at the moment.

The other side of these personnel moves that are backfiring is that they are not cheap.

Nmandi II: Electric Boogaloo

DandyDon52 · Sep 21, 2015

you guys need to lighten up on chip!
His being HC in philly is a good thing for the cowboys !
If they get a real coach they might be a threat.

LittleBoyBlue · Sep 22, 2015

DandyDon52 said:
If they get a real coach they might be a threat.

Hadn't happened yet... In their entire history!!

CowboyRoy · Sep 22, 2015

jday said:
Say Chip Kelly is an offensive genius and keep a straight face. Bet you can't!!!

This just proves one thing. You can have a great scheme, and great players on offense, but unless you have an Oline, you can kiss it all goodbye.

So what is the moral of the story? Pay the line, not the skill position guys if push comes to shove. And of course you need both. So especially with RB, use the draft to keep them coming young, fresh, and cheap. QB's you have to pay. WR's you have to pay.

jday · Sep 22, 2015

CowboyRoy said:
This just proves one thing. You can have a great scheme, and great players on offense, but unless you have an Oline, you can kiss it all goodbye.

So what is the moral of the story? Pay the line, not the skill position guys if push comes to shove. And of course you need both. So especially with RB, use the draft to keep them coming young, fresh, and cheap. QB's you have to pay. WR's you have to pay.

In Chip's case, though, it has been a catalog of errors.

1. Letting Jackson and Macklin go.
2. Trading McShady.
3. Thinking he could get it done on the offensive line with sub par talent.
4. Brought in a North South 1-cut RB and try to get him to run like Sproles.
5. Why hasn't he made any adjustments in his offensive approach to accommodate what he does have in terms of talent? For example, play Sproles more? Bench Bradford in favor of Sanchez who at least won games for him last year?.
6. The arrogance to think he could bring his system into the NFL from college and change the face of the game forever, despite the myriad of attempts in the past that eventually fell flat, like the Wildcat.

The list really goes on and on, but those are the top few that come to mind.

YosemiteSam · Sep 22, 2015

I sure hope the Jets hold the Eagles under 200 yards next week. Oh man, I would love that. I mean freaking PARTY TIME!!!! :laugh:

NickZepp · Sep 22, 2015

jday said:
In Chip's case, though, it has been a catalog of errors.

1. Letting Jackson and Macklin go.
2. Trading McShady.
3. Thinking he could get it done on the offensive line with sub par talent.
4. Brought in a North South 1-cut RB and try to get him to run like Sproles.
5. Why hasn't he made any adjustments in his offensive approach to accommodate what he does have in terms of talent? For example, play Sproles more? Bench Bradford in favor of Sanchez who at least won games for him last year?.
6. The arrogance to think he could bring his system into the NFL from college and change the face of the game forever, despite the myriad of attempts in the past that eventually fell flat, like the Wildcat.

The list really goes on and on, but those are the top few that come to mind.

I'm not sure that many QBs can win with the lack of WR talent they have. Terrance Williams is much better than any receiver threat they have and when Dez comes back he will basically be out of the Dallas offense almost completely. Their WR talent is just as poor as their line. I'm not going to defend Bradford because he's been awful. But I'm not sure any QB can shine in that system with this talent. If they had a line and receivers, Chip Kelly has pretty much proven he can get the offense going some. But Dallas didn't do anything special on defense and are short handed on defense yet they completely dismantled that offense.

YosemiteSam · Sep 22, 2015

We should create more threads about this so we can make this thread become a *MEGA MERGE*

Opinion: Chip Kelly era is over! **merged**

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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