Opinion: Proposed rule change

[JBS]

what kind of advantage did the 9ers get for their penalty? none...there wasnt even a play run...it cost them some inches and the series moved on...not sure why the OP is so upset over almost nothing...

 

[Super_Kazuya]

what kind of advantage did the 9ers get for their penalty? none...there wasnt even a play run...it cost them some inches and the series moved on...not sure why the OP is so upset over almost nothing...

If there's no advantage, then why is encroachment even a penalty?

 

[Gadfly22]

The rules they have to change are; (1) the helmet-to-helmet rule, which can get called when there is completely accidental contact that occurs because 2 (or more) players are moving very very fast in a small space; and (2) the helpless receiver rule, which makes it virtually impossible to tackle a receiver in the open field since the defender has to make a sure tackle AND not make that tackle too violent.

I'm all for protecting players, especially their vulnerable brains, but the helmet-to-helmet rule can't be a zero-tolerance rule (the refs have to have more discretion NOT to call the penalty when completely accidental) and the helpless receiver rule -- well, I don't know what to do with that, since it's called so inconsistently.

 

[vlad]

I believe in football. If a team is on the goal line and the defense commits a 5 yard penalty like encroachment... then the offense should get a first down and not half the distance to the goalline. Niners got away with a meaningless penalty which should of been a first down. If any one saw the play, i was flabbergasted.

I understand what you are saying - its an interesting case. Those laughing at you - well I just assume they pick fights with people online.

When Bowman (I think it was) jumped over the line I and it was just a "half-the-distance" I immediately thought - "well I'd just do that again and again and again until they score or I actually time it right". There is really no reason not to in a bottom-line way. It just would annoy people and potentially question the "integrity of the game" which I don't think anyone will care about if you win.

Similar is seeing a time FINALLY take advantage of the rule where if a defender jumps into neutral zone you can just pop up out of your stance and its an encroachment. Denver did that so many times - its a no brainer 5 yards - I get so annoyed when our guys just stand there.

 

[jazzcat22]

I believe in football. If a team is on the goal line and the defense commits a 5 yard penalty like encroachment... then the offense should get a first down and not half the distance to the goalline. Niners got away with a meaningless penalty which should of been a first down. If any one saw the play, i was flabbergasted.

So if the offense is backed up inside their own 5 yard line, and they have a false start, should a down also be taken away.
Goes both ways.

 

[Beats_By_Zeke]

So if the offense is backed up inside their own 5 yard line, and they have a false start, should a down also be taken away.
Goes both ways.

actually yes, if no more yards can be taken away, i say give them a saftey. If you intentional ground it in the endzone its a saftey so whats the difference.

 

[jazzcat22]

actually yes, if no more yards can be taken away, i say give them a saftey. If you intentional ground it in the endzone its a saftey so whats the difference.

Interesting thought.
If at 2 yard line, either backed upped, or about to score.
Say a false start moves it to the 1. A unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, say a chop block. puts it at the 1.
An offsides at the other end, moves from 2 to the 1, a roughing the passer does the same. Free shot on the QB in a way. But that carries a 1st down, as offsides doesn't.
actually most defensive penalties gives offense a 1st down.